What happened to australia?

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:25 am

just wondering...if there was ever any mention of australia? in fallout lore. please reply with answers
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Lavender Brown
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:12 pm

Pretty sure the bombs destroyed the world.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:56 pm

Pretty sure the bombs destroyed the world.


obviously not the whole world, seeing as the us and commies are fighting my guess is Austrailian is the same (name the last war they where in) I mean WHO would bomb austrailia?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:58 pm

obviously not the whole world, seeing as the us and commies are fighting my guess is Austrailian is the same (name the last war they where in) I mean WHO would bomb austrailia?

There was no country that wasn't affected in some way by the exchange, remember a certain ANZUS agreement? Almost guarantees that both Australia and New Zealand were nuked as well.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:59 am

Basic rule of thumb: if it wasnt nuked, the fall of social order destroyed pretty much everything we know.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:33 pm

Basic rule of thumb: if it wasnt nuked, the fall of social order destroyed pretty much everything we know.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:52 am

My Sig. :hehe:
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Charles Weber
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:41 am

They probably jumped into Kangaroo pouches.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:15 pm

obviously not the whole world, seeing as the us and commies are fighting my guess is Austrailian is the same (name the last war they where in) I mean WHO would bomb austrailia?


2003 invasion of Iraq
2001 War in Afghanistan
Gulf War
Indonesia?Malaysia confrontation
Korean War
Mahdist War
Malayan Emergency
Second Boer War
Vietnam War
World War I
World War II
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:42 am

2003 invasion of Iraq
2001 War in Afghanistan
Gulf War
Indonesia?Malaysia confrontation
Korean War
Mahdist War
Malayan Emergency
Second Boer War
Vietnam War
World War I
World War II


Its important to remember they were not that important in most of those wars unless helping the commonwealth as they are obliged to do. While, in other wars like in Iraq, they have an active role that isn't very important. In Vietnam, Australia was very active and important to the war effort mainly due in part to their proximity. Actually, from what I know about modern Australia they have a very good working relationship with Communist China, despite the rare dispute here and there, and Russia.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:04 pm

Its important to remember they were not that important in most of those wars unless helping the commonwealth as they are obliged to do. While, in other wars like in Iraq, they have an active role that isn't very important. In Vietnam, Australia was very active and important to the war effort mainly due in part to their proximity. Actually, from what I know about modern Australia they have a very good working relationship with Communist China, despite the rare dispute here and there, and Russia.

Where the U.K. was involved in a large conflict there's a pretty good chance Australia would be involved. Shared culture, shared value. Nature of the Commonwealth. Treaty obligations. ANZAC.

Note that in Vietnam the U.K. didn't have a thing to do with it. The Aussies are more than capable of getting their war on without us.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:08 am

Australia was very directly standing against Japan in WW2. They were even invaded by Japanese armed forces at one point.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:37 am

Australia was very directly standing against Japan in WW2. They were even invaded by Japanese armed forces at one point.

Australia proper wasn't invaded (although Papua, at the time an Australian protectorate, was), and it is arguable how much threat Australia proper was under.
We never had enough troops to do so [invade Australia]. We had already far out-stretched our lines of communication. We did not have the armed strength or the supply facilities to mount such a terrific extension of our already over-strained and too thinly spread forces. We expected to occupy all New Guinea, to maintain Rabaul as a holding base, and to raid Northern Australia by air. But actual physical invasion—no, at no time.

Gill (1957), pg 643.

Also because the Aussies put up one hell of a fight; the story of the Kokoda Track is well worth looking up, for example.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:46 pm

Australia was very directly standing against Japan in WW2. They were even invaded by Japanese armed forces at one point.

Only if you count a couple of Midget Submarines as an "Invasion".
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:05 am

Wasnt Australia where McArthur made his base of operations for the Pacific theatre of war?

Oh yeah, and the fact that we also field a regiment of the most feared Special Forces team in the world, the SAS-R.

Just because we dont spend half a trillion dollars on our military, nor do we decide to invade a country for oil and then try and pretend it was to find nukes (Whoops, there were none!) doesnt mean that we arent capable of fighting.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:34 pm

of course Australia survived where else could the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Horned_kangaroo come from.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:04 am

Only if you count a couple of Midget Submarines as an "Invasion".


They bombed Darwin a couple of times too IIRC.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:10 am

They bombed Darwin a couple of times too IIRC.


A bombing is not an invasion. Its just that, Airstrikes.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:04 pm

Well if you go by the "Modern British Empire" theory which some claim...then it is safe to assume that the RAF may be opperating forward airfields in Australia(which are no doubt meant as a nuclear strike option). Also, since Australia is part of ANZUS, it makes the nation a perfect target for communist nuclear strikes. Now the third theory, and the one which generally has a lot more support, is that the RAAF, independently developed its own nuclear weapons program(as all the major commonwealth nations in the Fallout timeline did....). With Australia having its own nuclear weapons, and a commitment to ANZUS...it is quite possible that Australia would be a primary target in that scheme of things.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:17 am

obviously not the whole world, seeing as the us and commies are fighting my guess is Austrailian is the same (name the last war they where in) I mean WHO would bomb austrailia?


Fallout intro:

In 2077, the storm of world war had come again. In two brief hours, most of the planet was reduced to cinders. And from the ashes of nuclear devastation, a new civilization would struggle to arise.


Fallout 2 intro:

The earth was nearly wiped clean of life. A great cleansing, an atomic spark struck by human hands, quickly raged out of control. Spears of nuclear fire rained from the skies. Continents were swallowed in flames and fell beneath the boiling oceans. Humanity was almost extinguished, their spirits becoming part of the background radiation that blanketed the earth.


Jesse Heinig, one of the FO1 designers:

One of the recurring themes of Fallout is that life will find a way to continue, albeit often under great struggles and with violence and suffering. It's not unreasonable, given this notion, to presume that U.S. remnant forces remain in parts of China, just as remnant Chinese elements are in the U.S.; and that other countries are similarly ravaged and war-torn, with survivors crawling out of the rubble. If Australia was untouched by the war, for instance, then presumably after 200 years they would have projected their powerful industrial presence and comparatively high population all around the globe to take control of any remaining resources, and the Enclave would find itself locked in a war with the Aussies. It's likely that some underpopulated parts of the third world escaped the full brunt of nuclear devastation, but since these would have been low-population unindustrialized areas anyway, they are not exactly in a position to take advantage of their "good fortune," such as it is. (I don't imagine that many nukes were wasted on the Sahara.)


The very first Fallout 1 timeline by Scott Campbell and Brian Freyermuth (from which all other Fallout timelines in existence are derived):

Other countries, seeing the US's missiles on their way, fire their warheads as well. What ensues is two hours of nuclear bombardment upon the earth's surface.


Emil Pagliarulo, FO3 lead designer:

Tenpenny Tower was slightly inspired by Fiddler's Green, the skyscraqer in George Romero's Land of the Dead. But it was also an opportunity to introduce another character from outside the U.S. Allistair Tenpenny came to the Capital Wasteland from Great Britain to seek his fortune, so that alone tells you that the U.K. was also hit in the war. And if he came to U.S. to succeed, that says a lot about how screwed up Europe must be. So we just allude, a little bit, to the state of the rest of the world.


Tim Cain, one of the main creators of Fallout:

Killzig: What ever happened to the catholic church in the FO universe?

Tim Cain: I think it was nuked - the vatican that is.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:18 am

Tenpenny coming to the United States in search of opportunity may actually say a lot more about how much better off the UK is than the US. For instance, Tenpenny had to travel across the Atlantic Ocean to get here, which says there must be a civilization with the resources to ferry people across entire oceans. Because of this prosperity, or perhaps intense communitarian civilization there would not be very many opportunities for an amoral capitalist/opportunist. Thus, he would come to a shattered, weak country in order to reap enormous profits out of a ripe and lawless land.

Also, Moriarty came from Ireland, which also says someting about Ireland being able to send people across oceans.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:40 am

Everything that happened to Australia is exsplained in the Book and Movie "The Beach". Look into it, that is what happens to Australia. :) Silly Aussie's, War is for the rest of the World :dance:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:54 pm

Tenpenny coming to the United States in search of opportunity may actually say a lot more about how much better off the UK is than the US. For instance, Tenpenny had to travel across the Atlantic Ocean to get here, which says there must be a civilization with the resources to ferry people across entire oceans. Because of this prosperity, or perhaps intense communitarian civilization there would not be very many opportunities for an amoral capitalist/opportunist. Thus, he would come to a shattered, weak country in order to reap enormous profits out of a ripe and lawless land.

Also, Moriarty came from Ireland, which also says someting about Ireland being able to send people across oceans.


Moriarty might speak with an Irish accent, but contrary to popular belief, he's not an IRA gunman, sent to kill Tenpenny of MI5...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:32 am

Well, speaking of the IRA, I suppose nuclear holocaust freed the Emerald Isle. Maybe the only people in control on the island IS the IRA.

And another note on the UK, if we are keeping with the whole 1950s vibe, the UK was under a strong socialist democracy started by Attlee and the Labor Party. Quite frankly, perhaps the strong sense of social values and a powerful mass labor movement kept Britain from completely going to the pitts. On a speculative note, perhaps a real Marxist democracy now exists in Britain, seeing how capitalism and Communism have essentially been destroyed.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:41 am

Well, speaking of the IRA, I suppose nuclear holocaust freed the Emerald Isle. Maybe the only people in control on the island IS the IRA.

And another note on the UK, if we are keeping with the whole 1950s vibe, the UK was under a strong socialist democracy started by Attlee and the Labor Party. Quite frankly, perhaps the strong sense of social values and a powerful mass labor movement kept Britain from completely going to the pitts. On a speculative note, perhaps a real Marxist democracy now exists in Britain, seeing how capitalism and Communism have essentially been destroyed.



First Maxist Democracy would never be real. Marxism is just the "Umbrella" for what became Communism. And Democracy would never have been part of a Marxist Society. And also if Communism collapsed, then Marxism would have also, because Marxism is jus the following of whar Karl Marx wrote, just like Stalinism is the following of Joseph Stalin.
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