What happened the Dunmers?

Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:15 pm

Even though what some Dunmer did was wrong, what doesn't justify the Argonian take over...

The Argonians took advantage of the disasters that struck Morrowind.
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:20 pm

That has been my point all along. I understand the reasons the Argonians invaded. I do not accept nor approve of them and find them repugnant but they ARE people and that is something that people have and can do. The problem I have is people saying it is Justifiable in any way and that it is a good thing. It was a failure of cognition on the Argonians part to not recognize an opportunity for peace but so was it so for the Dunmer in the years prior to them abolishing slavery. But they did abolish it. They WERE trying and that is what makes the Argonians actions so repugnant and obviously just them exercising what is at this point petty vengeance/an excuse for the An-Xiheel to solidify their power by relying on old hatreds.


It's justifiable, depending on your point of view. We, as players see the conflict from the perspective of an almost distant 3rd party. Only at best given a caricature of the whole conflict and its inner workings, yet we feel the need to be judgemental based upon our personal morality, when applied to a world that is not our own, and a conflict that we do not have the full experience of. The Dunmer did what they did, and the Argonians did the same. Unless we run into individuals from both sides who were actually present during the event, our information would remain limited.
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:55 pm

Why didn't you simply check the info on the UESP to the end? >_>
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:04 pm

They were dikes, now the tables have turned.
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:21 pm

The disaster damage was only limited to the vvardenfell province ? so wouldn't this sound more like people crying outrage if mexico attacked the united states after canada was struck by disaster? :laugh:
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Post » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:05 am

i'd have to say that ol' Hitler would have sided with the Dumner strikly because his views parraleled theirs. he would of seen the Argonians as nothing but beasts as well.

so good ridence to the to the Dunmer, its an individual choice whether slaves are legal or not, its up to the individual if they will have then. the people could have sied no despite what the leadership sied that they could do. instead they brought this all on themselves.


When most have grown up with tradition of the institution there's not many who would see it as wrong. Afterall we keep live stock, why not.Argonians? it only becomes slavery when the beings start to talk or appear sentient.
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:22 pm

The word "Dunmer" can be used for both singular and plural forms. So...

"What happened to the Dunmer?"

They are refugees everywhere. Their bad practices and racism caught up with them.
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:53 pm

Thread seems to have veered a little off of the tracks Lol
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Post » Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:14 pm

Morrowind, if the devs pay any attention to basic physics, is screwed. The Ministry of Truth crashed with enough force to turn Vivec City into a crater; not a pile of rubble, a -crater-. Simple mass alone would not do that; and it simply was not high enough to gain enough gravitational acceleration to do it, either. Something unleashed enough energy to vaporize both Ministry and Vivec; something either exploded, or contained said energy, and the disaster caused whatever was containing it to fail. The crater is big enough to have earned the name Scathing Bay. =Then= Dagoth Ur went BOOOOOOOOM! There are no mountains around that inland sea to deflect the blast front, flame front, or pyroclastic cloud. Even the wimpiest volcanic eruption unleashes multi megaton level energy; odds are the Ministry's fall and Vivec's devastation fractured the island (which, being in the middle of an inland sea as it was, -had- to be volcanic upthrust......meaning that whole area was an active caldera). If the bay water hit that magma pocket........

What's left of Morrowind is in the time of Skyrim known as The Wastelands. That kind of gives a hint as to just how massive that volcanic explosion had to be. If there is any island left at all, it probably is new upthrust. The effects would have been global, and you can bet there was damage in Skyrim & Cyrodil, at the very least. The question is which way the prevailing winds blow; if they blow west to east, then the majority of the ejecta was blown out to sea. If east to west, though, then Tamriel got ashed big time (the assumption is west to east). If they are still wastelands over 150 years after the initial event, then it was cataclysmic. Regrowth usually starts within the first 30-50 years.....and if it hasn't.....


Actually the Ministry of truth was held in stasis, therefore retaining its velocity from the time before it was froze in the sky.
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