All it takes is the right leader with the right words to justify a genocide.

Question. Why did the Argonians want to take over a descimated Morrowind?

Revenge, really. They just wanted to kill as many Dunmers as possible.

Yes but just as in real life, it is a failure of cognition and morality if you let your personal views get swayed by the actions of that few when trying to understand the whole.

There was no genocide, the Dunmer are clearly still around.

Justify? no, never. Fool the simple minded, yes.

Edit. The books state they slaughtered all they came across, that's genocode, or shall we not call what Timur did genocide?

it was corrupted and in pain it was the only right thing to do.

You can't blame the Argonians for this...

They are all but a hive-mind enslaved by their precious Hist trees. Only Argonians who have broken away from such a bond could ever decide for themselves.

Personally, as a life-long Dunmer, I don't hate scalies any more than I hate any other race. I see the error of my people's ways, but we were given a second chance with a (mostly) clean slate.

It has been a long time since the Red Year and even still, I cannot fathom any grudges lasting so long. Let us cast off the shackles of our ancestry, be done with slavery, be done with bigotry, because if the scrolls are any indication: we have much bigger fish to fry just around the bend. And by fish, I mean dragons!

@AlbinoDunmer That was a rogue Hist, a traitor to the true hist which are all connected at one single root.

bad blood is bad blood, sit back and enjoy the carnage IMO

Here, Here!

Vvardenfell was destroyed by the fall of the Ministry of Justice (due to vivec's absence), Morrowind was greatly damaged, and the argonians raided and conquered the rubble left on it.
EDIT: Ops...Ninja'd? Yep. Uh hm. Too bad.

A typical Argonian would not have any compelling reason to understand the whole. The minority, but mostly ruling groups likely practiced slavery. An unpopular minority wanted it ended. And a majority was likely indifferent to either side.

Black march seceeded from the empire>The Ministry of Truth hits Vivec causing Red Mountain to explode and severely damage most of Morrowind into a state beyond repair>Argonians invade and conquer Morrowind>Umbra escapes from Clavius Vile on the Ministry of Truth, and makes a floating Island>Umbra takes his floating city and uses it to kill everything up the Argonian territories, including their capital.

Argonians...opportunistic cowards. Funny how Black Marsh never lifted finger to save their enslaved brethren until the fall of The Ministry Of Truth (aside from a few skirmishes). A true act of cowardice.

when your enemy is stronger than you you bide your time and wait, probing deffences now and again but not sending a full force untill you find a weakness you can exploit. this is a viable millitary tactic. the disasters in Morrowing just openned a gaping weakness. the Argonian people just used that weakness to their advantage.. though oportunistic i wouldn't call it cowardice. i'm sure that even if Red Mountain didn't deside to pull a crackatowa the confusion and dissorder caused by the fall of the Minestry of Trueth would have still given them the oportunity for their assault.

(on another note i like the fact that folk have stayed relitive civil in this descution despite the nature of it. good thing to see)

Vee'OT explained the logic behind their maneuver. I can't blame them, either. Dunmer society was inherently immoral, and deserved to be torn down.

It's not that I love the Argonians or anything, but Dunmer society was just [censored]. Good on the Argonians for striking the Dunmer when they were weakened. Good to see them put in their place (see: off the mainland).

Hopefully there are no immortal lizard npcs in skyrim.

Disgusting reptile scum... :meh:

Thanks

I just realized.....

The Elder Scrolls lore sounds like it belongs in my history book :woooah:

Truth is, I am surprised the Argonians attacked considering their history. Black Marsh is typically peaceful (Or at least not hostile) with the other provinces. The fact they cobbled together a invading force is even more shocking. While I don't think they could of done it had Morrowind not be battered by natural disasters. Disturbing, but I do not think that they are a significant fighting force in of themselves, but this radical change in demeanor is chilling indeed.

Meh, I liked the Argonians when I played as a Dunmer in Morrowind. If they caused the Dunmer to be more of a moral society then I applaud them, but I don't see it happening. They probably just pissed them off and made the Dunmer even more xenophobic and racist. THAT is what is irritating. Especially when the Dunmer seemed headed for a better society. Slavery had been abolished and the tribunal was dead. That was a good start. Then they got effed up and invaded. Real nice Bethesda...

Makes me like the Dunmer even more and will likely garner many fans for the Dunmer fan-base. Depends on how the events are portrayed really though. If they say the Argonians cast off the shackles of slavery i am gonna be pissed (in game) because that is an outright lie...I can see them doing that though. Wait do the Argonians even write or have writing? Hmmm...advantage Dunmer Historians. I think people are gonna hate the Argonians in Skyrim lol. I can easily see the Dunmer painting the Argonians in a horrible light. It would be pretty easy. HA this will be amusing as hell. 11/11/11 cannot come soon enough.

I find the control of the Hist disturbing and cannot rationalize them being a good thing for the Argonians other than the necessity for them in regards to creating the Argonians. Hopefully Black Marsh sees the Argonians becoming the controlling part of the Hist-Argonian relationship. Does not seem symbiotic at all imo.

Seriously guys? It's a game not real life, please walk out side and get some fresh air... You aren't really a Dunmer, and you aren't really an Argonian... You are a human, simple as that... Stop deluding yourselves and walk out side even if it's raining and wake up... Your parents are more than likely scheduling a psychiatrist appointment so go show them you have some sanity left in you, Oblivion and Skyrim aren't real life, they are "VIDEO GAMES".

It's called being smart, not a coward. They conquered the place without major loss because they striked at the right time.

Maybe Vivec is hiding in Skyrim.... :spotted owl: