what happened to the world

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:05 pm

I assume that the U.S. nuked china also, but what about europe and africa the mid east other parts of the world did they get nuked too?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:20 am

I assume that the U.S. nuked china also, but what about europe and africa the mid east other parts of the world did they get nuked too?

The European Commonwealth dissolved into a bunch of feuding city states after a disasterous war with the middle east... Africa isnt mentioned at all afaik.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:57 am

Most of the planet was nuked, each country by its respective enemies.

From http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_intro:

In two brief hours, most of the planet was reduced to cinders. And from the ashes of nuclear devastation, a new civilization would struggle to arise.


From http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_intro:

The earth was nearly wiped clean of life. A great cleansing, an atomic spark struck by human hands, quickly raged out of control. Spears of nuclear fire rained from the skies. Continents were swallowed in flames and fell beneath the boiling oceans. Humanity was almost extinguished, their spirits becoming part of the background radiation that blanketed the earth.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:18 am

Some countries don't really have any enemies or are otherwise too isolated, thus I don't know what would have happened to them...

Neither Australia, New Zealand or Africa are mentioned afaik...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:15 pm

Some countries don't really have any enemies or are otherwise too isolated, thus I don't know what would have happened to them...

Neither Australia, New Zealand or Africa are mentioned afaik...


Some countries may not have enemies in the real world, but the Fallout universe is different than our own. For example in the real world the U.S. and Canada are allies but in the Fallout universe the U.S. invades and annexes Canada as the various powers compete for shrinking natural resources. While Africa isn't specifically mentioned perhaps it was gobbled up in a similar fashion. Either way the intros imply that the entire world was laid waste by the war. Countries like Australia or nations in Africa were also destroyed, if not directly by the bombs then in the nuclear winter that followed.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:49 am

What about island nations in the South Pacific like Vanuatu? I don't think they have enemies, it's tropical there, food is abundent for the most part, and many of the citizens are already used to being isolated from the rest of the world for long periods of time.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:01 pm

If it was a nuclear war, and it only takes about 7 to destroy the world, the world would turn completely into a wasteland and probably attack itself, which might mean more nukes, hence the high levels of radiation everywhere.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:43 am

It would be interestng to hear if the rest of the world survived. Did they have a similar vault system? I would assume that Europe or Africa would not have Super Mutant problems.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:54 am

What about island nations in the South Pacific like Vanuatu? I don't think they have enemies, it's tropical there, food is abundent for the most part, and many of the citizens are already used to being isolated from the rest of the world for long periods of time.

I'd imagine a lot of infrastructure would be ruined by blind panic, disease would be a major issue with limited/no medicines getting in.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:41 am

It would be interestng to hear if the rest of the world survived. Did they have a similar vault system? I would assume that Europe or Africa would not have Super Mutant problems.

Might be an idea for a mod or two.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:21 am

It would be interestng to hear if the rest of the world survived. Did they have a similar vault system? I would assume that Europe or Africa would not have Super Mutant problems.


Actually, they have hinted at this: Moriarty, Moria, and Tenpenny.

In particular, somewhere in game I remember reading a note about 'How much Moriarty has grown' since he 'was a babe', and basically it indicated that he came in off a boat of refuges(?!). I just remember it shocked me a bit. Looking around, there are a small handfull of characters with distinctly British or Irish names and accents. If I can find that note, I will post.

Raises some interesting questions however, if they fled over the DC to escape Europe.....
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 8:30 pm

destroyed, if not directly by the bombs then in the nuclear winter that followed.



I dont mean to sound cheeky here but...

When will you people absorb that not only is Nuclear Winter a debunked theory it is one that did not develop until AFTER the 50s...

According to 50s theoretical science and thus according to Fallout Science! the world would experience radiation that mutates not kills, and scorching heats from greenhouse gases, and desert like lifeless conditions.
Thus in Fallout THERE WAS NO NUCLEAR WINTER.

So no your theory is wrong.

If you guys read the Fallout Bible the strong implication is that most of the worlds smaller governments collapsed prior to the Great War, during the so called resource wars. These wars werent just fought between the EuroCom and the MidEast but fought between rival nations and groups across the world including the US and China.
Because of the loss of fossil resources the poorer smaller nations of the world collapsed, with no discernable government to protect these peoples their countries fell into anarchy. Tore themselves apart - READ as African countries, South America, Anzac, the stupid little nothing island nations etc.

This followed by the great war where nuclear fire wiped out the stronger surviving nations including the SovUnion, China, USSA, EuroCom, India, and the Mid east.
The radiation and greenhouse gasses kicked up by the nukes according to the rules of Science! in Fallout caused a minor global warming effect which parched the lands killing yet more people. The wind appears to sort of "blow" the radiation around much like dust which would explain the effects reaching even remote areas and countries.

If you play the previous games, if you read the bible, hell its even referenced somewhat in F3. Its easy to figure all this out.

There WERE survivors both inside and outside of the Vaults.

Other major nations DID have their own Vaults. UK, France, Germany, SovUnion, China, Japan are the most likely suspects. Though probably not on the same scale as the US.
Canada being an annexed territory probably didnt have any Vaults. The USSA wouldnt have had any reason to fund the building of any.

In the other countries like South Africa, Australia, NZ, etc. You would probably find that population density is slightly higher than in the remains of the US but is in equal dissarray like the US survivors.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:48 am

There WERE survivors both inside and outside of the Vaults.

Other major nations DID have their own Vaults. UK, France, Germany, SovUnion, China, Japan are the most likely suspects. Though probably not on the same scale as the US.
Canada being an annexed territory probably didnt have any Vaults. The USSA wouldnt have had any reason to fund the building of any.

Actually, Canada is the only country other than the US Confirmed to have any vaultsK. There are vault Tech letters in FO3 sugesting that the recipents apply for a vault opening in "newly annexed canada". AFAIK, there is no in game suggestion that there were any similar vault networks in other countries (although shelters built with nuclear war in can be assumed, there is nothing even suggesting anything on the scale of a vault).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:27 am

Actually, Canada is the only country other than the US Confirmed to have any vaultsK.


Canada is not another country. :)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:51 am

I suppose Canada could have just used some of the vaults from ww2
there is a big one in Nova Scotia, the Diefenbaker bomb shelter
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:38 am

Canada is not another country. :)

Tell that to the CPF, and the PFC... ;)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:24 am

If it was a nuclear war, and it only takes about 7 to destroy the world, the world would turn completely into a wasteland and probably attack itself, which might mean more nukes, hence the high levels of radiation everywhere.
you but there nukes didnt work like ares they were more like just bombs with radiation. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Divergence
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:19 am

it would take a hell of a lot more than 7 bombs to destroy the world. How many countries have done nuclear testing?? I know the US set off a dozens, at the very least.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:49 am

It would be interestng to hear if the rest of the world survived. Did they have a similar vault system? I would assume that Europe or Africa would not have Super Mutant problems.



Not that sure about that, they might have having similair projects going on, remember the European Commonwealth (and what was left of it), was in a decades fight over the Middle East, so it wouldn't suprise me there were projects going on, and in Europe there are plenty of Animals and Humans to perfom projects on ...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:50 am

Hmmm....What would happen to people in the international space station?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:48 am

Hmmm....What would happen to people in the international space station?


There was no International Space Station in the Fallout world.

Not that sure about that, they might have having similair projects going on, remember the European Commonwealth (and what was left of it), was in a decades fight over the Middle East, so it wouldn't suprise me there were projects going on, and in Europe there are plenty of Animals and Humans to perfom projects on ...


There would be mutants, but different kinds of mutants, not the same as in the US.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:26 pm

yeah think of Paris.... *shudders* Ghoul Mimes
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:31 pm

...The Vaults were created as a giant grand scale social experiment. They in no way what so ever actually existed to save people. It was all a test to see what kinds of strain you could put on people before they crack. Vault 13 being the only one that is supposed to remain shut in original lore as a control group.

This is all explained by the president in Fallout 2


Space stations would fall back to Earth in a gradual decaying orbit with nothing to correct them and keep them from falling back down. This is both a logical and a historically made assumption on my part.
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