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Well, it's been freed from the enchantments that bound it, so... presumably it has gone back to Lorkhan. Or it waits for Lorkhan's return. Something like that. It can't really be destroyed of course, since it is the heart of the world.

It's not destroyed; it was only freed from its enchantments...

"Instead, The Nerevarine will strike the Heart with Keening for a second time, causing its tones to diverge into unstable patterns of interference. Further repeated strikes with Keening will further disrupt the tones, with the ultimate result of shattering and dispelling Kagrenac's original enchantments binding the Heart, thereby severing the Heart's links with Dagoth Ur, and with any surviving Heartwights, and with the Tribunal. Destroying Kagrenac's enchantments on the Heart will also stop the corrupt effusion of the Heart's divine power, and end the Blight on Morrowind."http://til.gamingsource.net/mwbooks/dagoth_defeat.shtml

Nowhere does it say the Heart will be destroyed, and it shouldn't, because the Heart can't be destroyed without destroying the world:

"But when Trinimac and Auriel tried to destroy the Heart of Lorkhan it laughed at them. It said, "This Heart is the heart of the world, for one was made to satisfy the other."http://til.gamingsource.net/mwbooks/monomyth.shtml

Some make speculations that it went back to Lorkhan, its not certain. There's no certainty that there is a Lorkhan to go back to; his body is up in the sky as the moons and his consciousness is running around making aspects of itself. I find it more likely that, despite how corny it may sound, it became one with the world; simply losing its physical constraints and allowing it's power to be uniformly spread (or at least simply freeing it from its containment and allowing it to move about)...

I've heard someone on here say it was banished back to the waters of Oblivion. Personally, I that's what happened to it. However, here's a crack at it from another angle.

It's always been my assumption that when the dwemer discovered the heart, it wasn't a tangible object so much as it was a certain wavelength of energy, or magical hotspot. The enchantments placed on it made it materialize in the form of a heart, since that's what the myths (with their great power) said it was. So, maybe, when the Nereverine freed the heart, it disappeared, but is still there.

Good idea. I always thought that if it was sent to the waters of oblivion, it would be easier for Lorkhan to get his heart back. Just from thinking it would be easier for him to enter oblivion, rather than Tamriel. I bet this is wrong, somebody fill me in.

It teleported itself in a place where, hopefully, he will not be discovered by a bunch of bearded freaks who will capture it, ensnare it in spelltones, and torture it until they're killed by other freaks who will do even worse things to it.

Like dude said, enchantments that bound the divine into the mundane seemed to be the Dwemer's game. Deconstruction of said enchantments woud've done nothing but liberate the Heart back into it's former state of existence I think. Like Azura said; free the Heart from it's prison.

Did the heart exist in its mundane state when the Dwemer uncovered it? Because once their enchantments were dispelled, it disappeared.

Hmm, I seem to think not. The enchantments made it mundane, maybe. But I don't see how the metaphysical Heart could have caused the eruption in Red Mountain, causing the island to split from Morrowind though.

I would generally agree with that, except there's no reason. At least not as far as I know. Why should "anything" change with the heart? I mean, you only broke the enchantment which was placed on it MUCH LATER after world-creation by some Dwemeri tools. Why should that change anything in regards to Lorkhan? The heart was in that mountain since world-creation, for thousands of years, then bang once, dwemeri made the brass-walker. Bang again ALMSIVI made themselves. Bank last time, both of these were probably un-made. That just brings it back to where it was after world-creation. Just "being" there in the mountain, indistructible.

Is it like Hrol's Alessian dirt mound now, a presence but not a physical, symbolic myth echo? It's not longer a stone, we know that. It's just Lorkhan and his considerable selfishness.

ok, im a lonely begger who wandered in off the General forum.....

Ive played MW, and never really understood what the heart really was....

Wasnt Lorkhan a god, or something?

Yes.

Is his Heart the source of his power?

What about this other body parts? Little finger? Won't that get you anywhere?

"Lorkhan (The Missing God): This Creator-Trickster-Tester deity is in every Tamrielic mythic tradition. His most popular name is the Aldmeri 'Lorkhan', or Doom Drum. He convinced or contrived the Original Spirits to bring about the creation of the mortal plane, upsetting the status quo -- much like his father Padomay had introduced instability into the universe in the Beginning Place. After the world is materialized, Lorkhan is separated from his divine center, sometimes involuntarily, and wanders the creation of the et'Ada. He and his metaphysical placement in the 'scheme of things' is interpreted a variety of ways. In Morrowind, for example, he is a being related to the Psijiic Endeavor, a process by which mortals are charged with transcending the gods that created them. To the High Elves, he is the most unholy of all higher powers, as he forever broke their connection to the spirit plane. In the legends, he is almost always an enemy of the Aldmer and, therefore, a hero of early Mankind."http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/varietiesoffaith.shtml

That's the way it's generally understood; the rest of him has its own purpose...

It is his heart, after all.

Well first it get's real tiny and sparkly, then it dissapears.


Well, assuming any of the Lorkhan stuff is true, then sure. But what happens if the trickster god does what he's supposed to do and "tricks?" what if all of the people who believe in this have been horribly lied to, like everybody who believews a lick of what Vivec says?

Boethiah's sphere is tricking people, not Lorkhan's; he's just best known for the biggest trick, which might not have even been a trick. Myth says that they shot the heart from Direnni Tower and where it landed a volcano formed. We know that the Heart was in a volcano, and we know that there's 'godsblood' all around it. I believe it's also said that there's ebony trickling back to Direnni as well, giving more credence to the theory. Does physical evidence lie? Besides that, the Monomyth and Vivec aren't the only sources verifying it and if all that doesn't work for you, there's the power of myth. The existence of the Monomyth verifies its own validity...

I always assumed that its still there. I mean the Dwemer just sorta.. found it. So it's probably just sitting in the rubble or in lava. I mean you have to separate things that happen in game to things that happen in lore. Also I don't think Lorkhan is a trickster I think he just convinced the gods to create the mortal plane.

....Well, what happens in a game IS lore, especially pertaining to the main quest... How could anything negate that...? With that logic, we could say that Caius didn't leave for Cyrodiil, but just sorta went away to another part of Morrowind; we could say that Sotha Sil isn't even dead; we could say that MW didn't even happen. We can't just dismiss things that happen in a game just because it isn't written down; that's just silly. Maybe I'm just not getting your meaning....

Enchantments were placed on the Heart that allowed it to be tapped into. These enchantments are removed in a process that itself was unorthodox and excessive, if we can consider tapping into the literal Heart of a god normal.... The fact that the Heart sorta...disappeared after the MQ ending is not too far out of the believable for me.

I will say that I feel your "convincing" idea is valid, in the sense that it's a position already held by people in-game.

But one also wonders why this old thread was even posted in...

IIRC, the Yokudan creation myths shed a bit more light on it; IIRC, it involved Lorkhan trying to cheat the system and managed to convince several other gods to try it, but it backfired badly, and then some of the other gods took it out on him.

Its not destroyed merely the enchantments on it broken.

Whats after happening to the heart, well anything anyone can say is just specualation.

I personally believe Luagar2's theorie but i'm a mere noob and don't have much to say ^_^

I meant that some things in game, such as the population in Cyrodiil, are probably going to be reflected differently in the lore. The population is a game limitation. What I was refering to was what happens to the heart in game. It's been quite a while but I think the heart explodes or something ridiculous like that in game but in the lore its totally possible that the heart is still there, it may not be beating but it is the heart of a god. So I just meant that the heart could very easily just be where ever it landed after the rubble fell even if in game it appeared to explode for dramatic effect but I also didn't look back at the heart after destroying it I just ran so it may have even still been there in game.

Concerning what the heart does, it basically just...spins and disappears. It's gone. This is referenced in lore as well, I'm sure... it literally causes the Oblivion Crisis... TES IV wouldn't even happen if it was there...

In my opinion, you're looking too hard at game mechanics. The conveyance of superficial elements such as population or the daily tasks of said population can't be properly compared to the central events of the storyline. The games also convey the Khajiit and Argonians differently in III and IV...but we still understand that they are Khajiit. The population may not properly fit what is referenced in lore...but we get that they ARE populated...

I honestly don't know what to tell you to get you out of this mindset. Just look at the games as demonstrating the gist of what happens in the...games storyline instead of a PERFECT (perfect being the absolute best representation of the game's events) representation....

I don't know if that helps or not... Probably not.