While I don't entirely agree with this, I think as others said, it was just to avoid displacing the idea that the player's Nerevarine was the real one by divulging any factual information about him/her beyond the basics he did




Nerervarine going to Akavir is merely a rumor, and has no substantial proof, it could easily be a case of mistaken interpretation. There's a game you play in school where everyone sits in a circle, the teacher whispers something in one person's ear, then they whisper to the next person, and it goes in a complete circle around the room between like 20 people, and at the end you find the last person usually says something completely different than the first. Word doesn't travel so accurately via word-of-mouth so I'd just chalk this up to another unsubstantiated rumor.



I think the reason we don't hear about Vivec or any of the Tribunal is because some people actually murdered them, it was left as a choice, it wasn't a specific quest or anything, but you were given the option to kill the entire Tribunal in the game, which the Temple would no doubt cover up by saying they went missing, to reveal that the Gods of the Temple are dead would create a massive question of faith that could erupt into a very serious ordeal.... so of course the Tribunal are "missing".... history will probably be written to assume they ascended into Aetherius or some such nonsense.

I think the reason we don't hear about Vivec or any of the Tribunal is because some people actually murdered them, it was left as a choice, it wasn't a specific quest or anything, but you were given the option to kill the entire Tribunal in the game

Exactly what I was trying to say. Some people may have killed them, some might not have. As such, they couldn't exactly state that Vivec had definitely been killed, or was definitely alive. Just as they can't state if the Nerevarine definitely want to Akavir.

which the Temple would no doubt cover up by saying they went missing, to reveal that the Gods of the Temple are dead would create a massive question of faith that could erupt into a very serious ordeal.... so of course the Tribunal are "missing".... history will probably be written to assume they ascended into Aetherius or some such nonsense.

"Apologise, but Lord Vivec isn't having having any visitors for awhile. He's... ill"

Silly people, the Nerevarine became the Champion.

Where did you learn that at? House Redoran was my personal favorite out of all of the Dunmer Houses. Now I'm sad

http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/fallofaldruhn.shtml

But they are trying to tell us what the Nerevarine did to at least some extent. Even if the 'Akavir' part is just a rumour (which it may well be), the one thing that's pretty much certain is that the Nerevarine has disappeared without a trace. This immediately screws over anyone who wants their own Nerevarine to play a meaningful role in the Oblivion crisis (at least where Morrowind is concerned). All they're doing is restricting us to a different (and, frankly, far less satisfying) set of options for the Nerevarine's fate.

It took me thirty seconds to come up with two example Nerevarine rumours that wouldn't interfere with the Champion's story, wouldn't require assigning him/her a specific race or gender, and would make a hell of a lot more sense than what we were actually given. I cannot believe that, with just a little more time and effort, the devs couldn't have come up with something more satisfying. I'm not saying they're any worse than most other game developers in this respect, but it still annoys me.

Now that would have been an amazing expansion to go with Oblivion.

I'm a little Ehh about The Nevarine going to Akavir as well. but not to much since it was just a rumour
however i would like to think my nevarine stayed to fight the daedra. or came back from his trip to Akavir to fight them

Wait...someone raised a good point back there. Modryn Oreyn in Oblivion has the Helm of Oreyn Bearclaw back, and says that a stranger from Morrowind returned it to him. It's quite possible that the Nerevarine is still in Tamriel, and that he or she was in Cyrodiil at some point.

yes that is a good point...hmm...

My Nerevarine doesn't own the helm, hence it's impossible that it was he who gave Modryn Oreyn it.

See what I mean?

Choice - it's a form of art.

There is a bit more about Vivec in the Imperial Library's Obscure Scrolls - and the afore-mentioned Trial.

However if you want pure speculation with no basis in fact: While the main trust of Development is towards Skyrim, one lone (and unknown) Dev is sitting in his dark cupboard, deep in the basemant of gamesas painstakingly patching together a sequal to Morrowind in which the Nerevarine washes up on the shore of Akavir, having been almost drowned to death when the expeditionary ship he was travelling on sank in a great and mysterious storm that rushed upon it without warning from a clear blue sky. It appears that the Nerevarine is the sole survivor at this point in time and sadly has lost most of his/her memory as a result of oxygen starvation and the bends as he/she does remember being pulled deep under the waters with the ship while trying to save the life of the only crew member he/she can remember. Another side effect is an almost total loss of skills and physical debilitation.

Start character creation: ...

There is one possible stroke of good fortune that remains with our intrepid adventurer - and it is a choice: does the player remember drinking a potion given to him/her at Tel Fyr? If yes then he/she is quasi immortal and immune to poisons and disease - and has certain 'fixed' memories of his/her past life.

These memories are thus: a, b, c.

If the player did not visit Tel Fyr and drink that potion then he/she has no past memories beyond the face of that possibly dead crewmember disappearing above him/her as the ship drags him/her under.

etc ...

Sadly, I doubt this unknown Dev will ever bring forth his/her expansion / new game into the light.

Sic Transit Gloria Mundi

Start character creation: ...

Guys and gals, when you play TES X, the star of the game is not the characters from TES X-1, or TES X-2... It's the character from TES X. The Nerevarine is irrelevant to Oblivion. His time is over, he left to leave the spotlight to the new hero.

That's not "retcon" or whatever, that's just focusing on what matters now rather than just cluttering the game with baggage about past heroes that don't even seem to be how you remembered them.

Nah. He sailed to Solstheim and by the time the news got down to Mournhold through word of mouth, Solstheim had become Akavir.

Artifacts tend to have a will of their own and jump around, disappear and reappear alot - that said, the Helm could have just decided it was tired of being with the Nerevarine...

That's up to the player. My character in Oblivion was my character in Morrowind, just as my character in Morrowind was my character in Arena, and there's nothing that can prove that he wasn't...

With a little creative thought, a touch of poetic license, and a fair knowledge of the history, you can fill in the gaps without much issue.

That's what I did. Wrote out a whole detailed plot to cover areas previously unexplained. Then again, I do that for pretty much everything I come across, I just love having the answers, even if I have to write them.

RB

As many others have said, the only thing known about the Nerevarine is a rumor.
I just don't personally agree that this rumor means Bethesda were lazy.

In order for Bethesda to wrap up the story, they would actually have to interview the player and ask questions about the Nerevarine; gender, race and a whole lot of background story. Bethesda would have to spend many hours on wrapping it up. I'm glad Bethesda chose this simple solution, they simply didn't wrap up the story. It's up to us to decide what happend to the Nerevarine.
And I'm glad they chose to focus on Oblivion instead. Morrowind is done. It's unlikely we'll hear anything about the Nerevarine, and if Bethesda finally do want to wrap things up, they have the option as they allowed the fate of the Nerevarine to fade into uncertainty.

And now I'm thinking about ways of wrapping things up, some pretty cool ideas too I think.

And remember, it was a rumor! Rumors tend to not be entirely true. You could make up that it was a cover up, the location was wrong and some passing person thought he/she heard Akivar, the Nerevarine fell down broke his neck and a rumor was started to not have everyone go into a panic about his death. Also, (s)he was part of the Blades; (s)he has connections.

Lol - go for it

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You don't worry about spoilers here - this is the Lore Forum where all is known ... sort of.

About that helmet - the Nerevarine could always have acquired it after the events in Morrowind - and not necessarily from that location of Morrowind ... those great artifacts often seem to go walkies as someonementioned earlier, so why not later?

Hah! Morowind is not done, neither is Redoran. Redoran just lost a few buildings. They will be rebuilt. The warriors of Redoran are not Hlaalu babies, they are not to be defeated by a few measly Daedra ... Remember Ald'ruhn Redoran and the Ghostgate. Remember who attacked you, there will be an accounting - both with the phoney Ayelieds and Dagoth Ur - when he has recovered from the most recent beating the Dragon gave him

There could have been another Akaviri invasion impending.

And while you were combating Mankar Camoran in Cyrodiil... the Nervarien was having much cooler higher level adventures thwarting the Undead Demon Dragon King or whatever :poke:

As stated before, he tells you a "stranger" gave it to him. It is left this way, imo, to keep the freedom of telling your own story. Not everyone who played Morrowind did the Malacath shrine quest. And, as previously stated, these artifacts tend to change hands often. Therefore, I conclude that this doesn't count as proof the Nerevarine was in Cyrodill.

I think Nerevarine had been imprisoned soon after the events in Vvanderfell. The Emperor has ordered to spread rumors about his/her departure to Akavir, whilst the person was held in the Imperial prison. 6 years of incarceration had rendered Nerevarine weak (but sill he or she could kill a rat with 1 blow of anything) and stupid (he/she cannot make powerful potions any more, cannot levitate, cannot make enchantments of his/her own), and his memory erased by experimenting mages guild alchemists (in order to prevent him from posing a threat to stability in Vvanderfell region, in case he'll ever go there).

You'd need a legion to do that! (one that can fly and travel at very high speeds)
And those are rather occupied killing daedra...
Besides my main char has lived on Vvardenfell for like a year already,
I'm just sorta pissed at him for not taking me to Akavir