This is it ^^. They know PC players are, on average, more hardcoe TES fans and will definitely fork over more money.

we get mod tools, that they have to build for us.im not worried and im still going to buy it, it looks to be worth a 100 dollars

They charge those beacuse companies take huge losses on building and selling consoles, selling the console for much less it is worth. That money is made back plus some from the sales of games, and hardware for that console. So MS/sony do need that charge.

I laugh at people when they use the term "greed".

Their a business, not a charity. Games cost a lot more to develop these days than they used too. Expect an even higher price in the future when new consoles are released due to inflation and even higher development costs.

Is it greed for a citizen to want to get a raise at work? No. We work to make money. Bethesda works to make money.

Stop whimpering and get over it.

I couldn't get through the first pages without laughing.

1.) The reason that console games cost more than PC games is addressed by the OP, in that there are licensing fees. It's not that PC users want console users to pay more for their games, it's on Microsoft (and Sony, if its on the PS3). If you strip the licensing costs for console games, then the games cost the same. Until the price hike, in which case, the PC games cost more.

2.) The PC game is not "better." People want to claim that mods are a feature -- they ARE NOT a feature. They are a possibility, but they are not something that Bethesda makes for us and while they do provide us with tools, its up to the consumers to learn how to use those tools and have the pre-equipped knowledge of how to properly program, model, rig, texture, design, and write. Mods are hard work, but they ultimately belong to the modders, not Bethesda. (Only non-unique used resources belong to Bethesda.) That means Bethesda can't ethically charge MORE for PC games just because consumers will go out of their way to make the game "better." (( Besides, we all know that Bethesda's official mods DO get to consoles, so that point is moot. ))

3.) Console gamers pay less. If you run out and buy an XBox, you're paying about 200-300 dollars, depending on what you get. Then you buy a game, which is about 10 dollars more on average than a PC game. However, if you are a PC user, and you want the same amount of experience, you will be paying an upfront cost of 1000+ or more, plus maintenance costs. You don't start seeing it "pan out" until you start buying MANY games...of course, by that time (you ARE playing games all the way through before buying more and more, right?), new architecture is out. On the PC, this means new stuff costing hundreds comes out every year or two. For the console, it's new hardware costing about 300-600 dollars every 3-4 years.



So, I get where the OP is coming from. The price bump makes no sense, unless Bethesda has considerable costs in porting the game from consoles to the PC. (And I think we've all established by now that these games are made first for the console and second for the PC.) Raising the prices on an already profitable but small sector of your market doesn't "make you more money", it just makes that sector slightly more T'd off, and in some cases, can cost you sales. ("It's just ten dollars." <--- This is what 12 year olds who don't earn their own money say, or trust-fund kiddies.)

Because most PC gamers will be using pirated copies and Bethesda has to make the platform viable by upping the price-They seem to be the only studio who`s really making an effort with the PC and I do want to see PC games in the future - I hate console controllers.

@JeffandHooper-
That sounds like a logical reasoning, even though we know Beth would never admit to it.

@DeadBy100Cuts-
Yeah, I love PC gaming. Mods are such a great feature.

@Warrior431-
I hear ya; that's the reasoning I've heard. Sad thing is, hardcoe console gamers probably end up paying 3-4x or more than what M$ would have charged for the hardware (or the lower price to offset with game purchases) I know this bites both ways. M$ loses on casual gamers who don't buy a lot of games, but then hardcoe console gamers lose out since they buy a lot of games.

@Mysticstryk-
That's cool. I laugh at people who think being in business is synonymous with actively leeching your community. Profits and returns on investment don't go hand in hand with raking your consumer over the coals. Plenty of companies run a successful business and have a loyal consumer base. With your logic, retailers would start games at $1000 and then over 3 years bring the pricing down, in order to maximize their sales from people who'd pay more than market values.

You get mods, for crying out loud!

This has nothing to do with piracy ...



People really have to stop making those stupid threads, and understand that:

a ) the prices are made by the distributors
b ) the prices are influenced by the demand
c ) in most countries Skyrim does cost just as much as other games

QFT

Leeching your community? So of course, inflation and higher development costs have nothing to do with it then? And your last sentence is a gross exaggeration.

Thank you for the summary; you seem to know where I'm coming from.

@Gazzer-
Pirated copies are far and above a minority, and any developer using that as an excuse for raising the price on legitimate consumers would suffer a PR backlash. I too don't like console controllers and HATE it when developers poorly port a game to PC, but I have nothing against console gamers. To me, it doesn't matter HOW you choose to game, only that you DO.

maybe because its a bigger game than anything out there

If you don't run the accounting department of Bethesda, than I would say you opinion is just opinion and you should S.T.F.U.

Price per potential hours. Price per potential hours of enjoyment.

Counting hours of gameplay isn't the right way to estimate price. Even when making hypothesis such as you did.

And, to say it's "only 10$"... is it only 10$ the next time too, and the next after that?

Selling a PC game for $60 is simply immoral and buying a PC game that costs $60 is just as immoral !
It's greed !
PC games have always cost $50 and thats how it should stay , production costs for the PC are much less than their console counterparts , no need for the extra $10 .

If development costs or inflation were the legitimate reason for a price increase, it would be across the board, ie, console versions would be $72.

Yes, the sentence was an exaggeration, but I've seen a cross sample of gamers, who are so ravenous, that if a developer/publisher chose to release the game for $500 1 month early, then $250 the day of, then $125 1 month later and then $50 another month later, there is a significant amount of gamers out there so ravenous for particular AAA titles that they would gladly pay those high prices. And as of late it seems that this kind of maximizing on investment might be an actual possibility if they keep this up.

Who cares? Not this PC player. Why should console players have to pay more? Not more of these feelings of entitlement from PC players again... *siiiigh*

For me, it will be 60 bucks divided by 1000 hours = 6 cents an hour. I would say I am getting my money's worth. Way bad...

why??

the game is bigger and better than a lot of games out there

if the extra 10 helps them make more TES then I would pay it gladly

hell if the game was 100$ I would get it.

I guess the people who were planning to eat instant ramen for the month of November.

Mileage may vary.

@richardrocket009-
You're been added to the ignore list. Now THAT's effectively shutting you the [censored] up, eh? No further childish remarks from you will be seen.

@Undecafideed-
Yeah, that's probably a better way to calculate it. Either way, I'm sure Skyrim will be an excellent game worth the price.

@GnrlKhalid-
With inflation, I would be willing to pay more for a game, but it would have to be just as expensive in other markets for me to justify the purchase.

FTFY




We don't need to estimate the price, as this is already confirmed.

Setting aside any future resale value, the only way to gauge the relative value of entertainment goods in relation to other purchases I can make is to estimate the number of hours of enjoyment I can derive from the purchase.

The relative cost per hour of entertainment value for TES games has always been astronomically low in comparison to other games, at least for those of us who enjoy them a great deal.