What about all the poor doggies

There dead too.

I will avenge them all!
I do wonder how an attack on Denver would pan out if the bulk of Legion was there and had the Dog Army - Tame and wild.
The dogs would double the numbers since they rule the cities ground.

I think it would be an interesting game, in all but one ending the NCR could go around if they really wanted. A game in Legion territory showing its positives and how the legion is being pushed around. You the player decide the fate of the legion.

All the endings would base around how you controlled the dogs on the ground since they run the city, part of the reason the people live in high rise buildings with skywalkways (< assumption).
I'd love to see more Legion content showing their town life, as for being pushed around and slavery, I like to think that's just the forefront of their war machine and the slaves we see are New Vegas' or nearby settlement's people who aren't born into the Legion.
I'd say their homelands are more like that of Sparta's with women being a big role as the majority while the men serve the Army and wage war.

I'd really love to see completely new factions. That's most important to me. Oh, and no Enclave plz, one unimaginative resurrection was more than enough.
The Institute/Commonwealth bears some nice potential, if done right.
They also could be that technocratic faction Strangelove is looking for, although I'd rather not paint them as an altruistic group.
Perhaps introducing 2 or 3 different factions within the commonwealth, with the player being able to influence/join/oppose them, with actual consequences?
Throw in 2 or 3 different Tribal/Raider factions with their own agendas and story and we could have an interesting east cosat adventure.


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There is already technocratic faction, and I'm not talking about BoS. The Reavers made an appearance in Fallout Tactics, they worship technology as their religion. As far as I know they live around Kansas.

And what if its a highly religious faction that wants aliens to help them? (oh wait thats stil human or the likes)

They'd be cannon fodder

A faction based heavily on the use of rifles, or one on pistols would be good and all their weapons are Gun Runner tier.
We have a good melee faction - Legion
2 good EW factions - Enclave and Brotherhood (Could even count Van Graffs)
1 bad Guns faction - NCR (The bulk of their force are terrible marksmen)

We need one that's experienced enough with normal weapons to be dangerous to all levels

You know, I'd actually like to see an alien worshipping cult in the game. And have it turn out that they have been worshipping a Mr. Gutsy all this time. Or maybe they're worshipping a ghoul or a supermutant.

I think any new factions should embody an idea.

For me, the Kings personify freedom, the Followers personify idealists, the NCR, democracy, House, Capitalism, etc etc etc.
I liked it like that. I don't think the habits or name or style of the faction matter so much, but rather what the faction stands for.

How about another rogue BoS chapter. Maybe they have orange and brown painted power armor and lose 2 battles to Ashur's forces each year.

Or maybe 2 battling religious tribes. One worships Bethesda and abandons former traditions, the other snidely looks down on them and battles to return to outdated way of life! HA!

Seriously though, a ghoul uprising would be cool. An organized large group though, not like we've seen on small scale. I like the Canadian idea too.

Main Factions: All these are if the gmes takes place in Colorado!
1. "The Locals"- (Bad name I know) They are from Colorado and are their stronghold is in the snowy and bad wheathered mountains. The climate in the mountains are unsusually bad do to nuclear alteration but "The Locals" us it to protect and hide them. They are their own affiliation and offer their relitivly safe haven to anyone who is willing to follow their strict, yet democratic rules. They look to expand but strictly non violently. However if their existing expansions or stronghold is threatened they are home to an extreamily elite group along with many patriotic willing soldiers. Their biggest hate is old world government, and governmental power.
2. "Cant think of a name"- Colorado is home to the presidents safety bunker (for real) and although the president is not around through all the years the presidents "CIA" if you will (another name would be nessecary) has been militarizing and waiting for the right time to reintroduce their corrupt governmental influence back into the world. (This is based of the idea that by the time of the great war the president was corrupt and working with the semi dictatorshipesque U.S government). This faction has good technology and are very violent and unreasonable.
Secondary Faction: I only have one but all credit goes to "http://www.gamesas.com/user/552585-gabriel77dan/" another user on this forum.
1. "Mirelurk"- This is not your ordinary wild/feral milelurk. In Blue Mesa resevoir, Colorado a Mentats Factory made its home their due to the lake and use of hydrothermal energy. Well Mirelurks made the factory their breeding grounds and after years of ingesting Mentats mutation took over from there. They have become intelligent, not human intelligent but they can socialize and build. They use primitive but effective techniques. The Mentats factory and Blue Mesa resevoir is their "kingdom". Not much is known otherwise due to a thick fog always hovering around the lake and most people try to avoid it.

The New Canaanites all used .45 Pistols. Maybe there could be some who survived the White Legs.

all in F1, F2, F3(no dlc alians), Ftactics, FNV, and new ones.

Yes i agree, little signs of aliens is ok, I like the conspiracy but def dont go over the top

I'd like a faction with, whatever their ideals and goals are, enough ambiguity to really make one ponder about whether to help them or not. Make the scale between "good" and "evil" more even. New Vegas was on the right track, but it could've been a bit more ambiguous with the Legion and NCR.

An easy example: A faction that condones medical science. They need to test their drugs on humans - with varying degrees of suffering and death - in order to make a possible cure for a grave disease that will kill many if not given an antidote. So they stage other diseases that they can cure to get their "guinea pigs". Some of those get to be the "casualties of the circumstances" while other get cured and the faction has a good rep. Now, would you help them achieve a scientific goal that could possibly save thousands, or do you expose them to the populace and have them lynched for what they've done to the people there and thus save numerous people from torture and death?

A faction I'd love to see (could be splinter of NCR) would be a sort 'Of take the wastes by force faction'.....mind you that kind of is the NCR...

I feel the Legion was the more take by force. The NCR resembles democracy....

I'd like to see a faction of Sandmen that took a town which used steam to power it (a steam punk themed location) from the Trogs that originally lived there.
Most Trogs have put it behind them and merged into human communities instead.
But one group is deadset on killing off all of the sandmen.


The grey morality?

Well, Sandmen thrive in heat, they can't stand the cold at all, it's like they get sick every time the sun sets.
So a steam-punk town? A town filled with humid heat to slow down their plate skin progression and to allow them the heat they require to feel like they're not sick?
They needed it.
On the other hand when taking this town from the Trogs they did end up killing a lot of those who tried to fight back.

So now the Sandmen control it and are expanding as more and more Sandmen come there and are building more communities around... Steam Ville.
And their prosperity is harming other groups in the wasteland.
They have their own power source and does not need others, they live in a form of community where no one of them really owns "money", they all work for everyones benefit, so their community is thriving as what they produce they can just sell and what they buy only increases their production and expansion. But they put any competition out of business. So farming`? That's declining a lot. Sandmen rule the trade of meat and vegetable trade.

Now the racist Trogs on the other hand are just plain racist and want to take back what was rightfully theirs.

Sandmen are a form of hive mind, they don't communicate telipathically or anything, but they aren't working for their own selfish needs, but to help everyone in their race.
But since they are doing this and since they are relatively self reliant they don't need to trade, they only trade with others for the things they don't need but otherwise doesn't give a crap about trading to help the economy.
Now, because of this they are becoming bloated, they're expanding, taking over territory, mines, junkyards, healthy land and clean water, all to increase their production for their community
The other factions are becoming jealous and fear what will happen once the Sandmen spread too wide.

But every faction has their own problems and no one is willing to stand up against their personal army, except for the racist Trogs.
They on the other hand do want to crush the Sandmen, but not because of them [censored] up the economy or because they're expanding, but because they genuinely hate Sandmen and think they are a blight on the world and so that they can take back Steam Ville (working title).
In doing this they manipulate others into thinking they are just, that they just want to stop the Sandmen expansion and force them to use a economic structure like the rest of the wasteland.


So the Sandmen will eventually force others to convert to their societal norm in which they are at the top of the hiearcy(?) or force them to leave the region.
While Trogs want to perform genocide, not to save the region from the Sandmen "tyranny" but because they just hate their [censored] guts, though if they do crush the Sandmen then the region will stay a relatively open minded place to live at, where no mutant, be it wastelanders, ghouls or trogs, is gonna be better than anyone else.

So, genocide? Or letting the Sandmen rule the region as the "better race"?

It of course comes down to lots of more variations to both factions but that's basically the cliffnotes.
In depth there is more on how Sandmen treat other races, how their societal structure works, how law works, how religion is treated, how raiders and tribals are handled and more.

Democracy? The NCR is democratic?



Don't make me laugh. They are not a democratic country, they are a republic and a corrupted one at that. If there is one thing that makes my blood boil is when they act like the rulers of the wasteland by taking over peoples lands and forcing the tribals to be civilized all in the name of "democracy" and "advancement". The NCR began going downhill ever since Aredesh disppeared and his daughter Tandi took over. Yes, the Legion takes the lands by force but the difference is that the Legion is upfront about it, the NCR is not.

I hope that the NCR has a civil war and burn.

NCR

Hm...what was I going to say? Oh, I remember now.

Gabriel77Dan I love your Sandman faction idea. I can definitely see them in a Fallout game.

Ha just cause you dont like the NCR doesnt change the fact that in the given "fallout" situation they are pretty democratic compared to ohhhh 95% of the wasteland. HAHA and I was comparing the Legion and NCR. Ya ummm NCR is looking a little more reasonable and democratic. But i appreciate your input

The one's who control the NCR are corrupt landowner's and brahmin barons who want more then they deserve. The citizens of the NCR will most likely rebel against their corrupt leaders at some point. Legion territory is some of the safest in post-apocalyptic US, but they will die the same way all war like nations die. Either a stronger power will consume them or it will dissolve from within when there aren't any more lands to conquer.

Yes, I DESPISE the NCR with an ever burning passion however if you wish for me to push that aside and explain why I say they are NOT democratic in a professional matter, I will do it.


Seeing them having problems in later Fallout games would be A-M-A-Z-I-N-G....perhaps other factions other than the Legion can push them over the edge?

I'm hoping for a NCR vs Another Country faction...

Personally I'd love to see an expansion of the ideals of the Followers of the Apocalypse. Someone trying to set up a small community with the idea of no hierarchy. I know this would be hard to enforce but that's the challenge.

I'd also like the idea of setting up your own town based on your personal ideology. They way you've played the game (i.e. you rep and karma) influencing the way the people behave.
*"ARE YOU A SNEAKY NIGHT TIME ASSASSIN WITH A PENCHANT FOR DEFENDING THE HELPLESS, MAKE YOUR NEW HOME DR JODDERS TOWN!"*
Just a thought but actually being able to name your town and recruit merchants, town guards scientists etc would be fun. Like an expansion of the ideas of developing the Dark Brotherhood Lair in Skyrim, just taken a step further.