I personally would like to see how much further the NCR has gotten, they are already farming for food and mining for resources.. whether they have set up industries and a kind of modern economy with cities that are like modern cities or have they regressed because of certain events would be interesting to know. Also, if Mr House is supposed to be cannon then I'd like to know what happened to the big plans he had for Vegas and humanity in general.. it could be interesting to find out what he's done in the next 20-25 years. Last, I wanna visit vegas again, if not in the main game then at least in one of the DLCs..

Well at least they value Human life which except the FOA none of the other factions have much respect for..

I would love to know about their problems further too.. either that or see how they have advanced as a society which may be comparable to modern civilization with organized industries, food production and commerce and as I said above if House is cannon then it'd be cool to know what happened to his big plans for the future of humanity.. are his plans coming to fruition? or did he run in to further problems again which are ofc born of human greed and disregard for the collective good of people.

Just to run with your House idea for a moment yesyamaha:
House would surely have a plan B and downloading his mind into a hologram somewhere outwith Vegas is not outside the realms of possibility. I'd like to take on House again, he was actually one of my favourite characters.
I think him taking over a town by exploiting their superstitions in some way and trying to build up a new force could be exciting stuff.

Although I must say, I'd rather see somewhere new and not vegas.

Yeah as I said, its unthinkable that Mr House's plans ended with the independence of New Vegas and I am sure that he would have a detailed plan of when and where he is going to expand his autocratic "rule" and um yeah it could be possible that he would put his personality on a holotape or maybe overwrite the platinum chip with it and send that with the courier as his emissary but would he want to do that is the question because as we see he has preferred to be alive in a physically decrepit state in a life support system instead of living on artificially with just his personality surviving.

Maybe he would somehow create a remote linkup and establish himself as a prophet/master to these people, it could be kind of like how Joshua Graham was helping the people in HH but of course the fleet of securitrons of Mr House would be used to provide security and do all kinds of things that would be needed to make these new people a power to be reckoned with. In the end what I want to know is how does he actually plan to restore order to humanity and what are the new obstacles that he would face in these endeavors..

Well, it's stated within FO:NV that within limited range house can broadcast to his securitrons. So what If had an eye-bot of his own, or hijacked ED-E (I'd really want to kill him if he hurt ED-E!) and as ED-E continued his journey he managed to broadcast his mind into something else? Some sort of cyborg experiment being conducted on a hill in a little out of the way settlement. Kind of a twist on the Frankenstein theme.
He then takes over the running of the town by zapping a few key folk with a refined Mezmetron after inviting these people into his lair. I just think it would be cool to set him up as a really old school bad guy, not the DR Who Cyberman controller he was in NV.

Again I'm just throwing ideas out there.

Or it could have been done when you hacked his terminal for the Followers, all that data they were going to take years to research. Getting his mind downloaded on a floaty brain and then transferred into a body...

Check the definition of democratic. As I understand, a democracy is where common people vote for other people to represent them, which is kind of what you've described the government of the NCR as (that's certainly how the democracy in my country works). Does the NCR have a corrupt bureaucracy? Undoubtedly. What country doesn't have a corrupt bureaucracy? Occupying foreign territory for resources might not be the nicest thing to do, and the NCR has certainly done some morally dubious things in the process, but does that change the fact that they are a democracy? Let’s think of a well known real life country that has a corrupt bureaucracy and occupies other nations for the sake of resources that generate electricity and doing all sorts of morally dubious things in the process. Are they a democracy? I'd say yes, personally.

(In other words, I'm saying that the logic of using the Mojave campaign to justify the NCR not being democratic is like saying the Iraq war makes the USA undemocratic. The occupation of the West Bank is probably an even better example; by this logic Israel clearly isn't democratic, except it is, and generally quite a bit more than its neighbours...which...wait...isn't that a bit like the NCR's situation. Please don't read into that as me commentating on the real life conflict, either.)

Also, you highlight Colonel Moore as an example of why the NCR is bad. What if you'd looked at Chief Hanlon instead or even Ambassador Crocker? That'd give the NCR a completely different appearance, wouldn't it? And for that matter, the NCR officer at Primm wants very much to help the town, however, he is faced with a shortage of supplies that prevent him from doing so.

Look, the NCR has problems with its leadership. Its causing pain both to the NCR and the people on its fringes. But at the same time, the NCR, based on what we know, has brought law, order and high living standards to hundreds of thousands of people. Is 'killing' this society, which is blatantly reminiscent of our society, justified? Or is it better just to remove the leadership which is causing the problems. I'd choose the latter, personally.

Yeah they'd be good to see if they're anything like Joshua in terms of skill and power. But lore tells us there are very few of them left to form a decent sized tribe, unless the game takes place a decade or so after New Vegas.

http://www.8bitbrigade.com/images/smilies/954-not-sure-if-serious.jpg?
Well yeah they resemble democracy pretty well, corrupt, liars, greedy and have no truely pleasent features.

DEMOCRACY IS THE BEST

GO NCR

DIE LEGION

- typical NCR supporter

NCR is the most democratic and lawful governmental bunch of guys in a world where killing and slaving are normal procedures.
NCR is Democracy the rest is some kind of filth that is just a placeholder till NCR takes theme over and B.O.S rules too they will join forces for sure.

Wait till democrecy kicks in.

NCR [censored] yeah!!!!

People's Republic of China

A civil war in the NCR would be cool...very cool....

It is very easy to say there are no positives for something you don't like, but you can never understand your enemy then.

And you described not even 1% of the population... I guess that is an entire country these days.

That less then 1% control the NCR.

The point is, you shouldn't judge a nation on a handful of people.

That's true, but the majority of the people of the NCR don't get to decide how their nation is run.

Having factions that would be morraly gray would spice things up. I also wouldn't mind the Followers of the Apocalypse making another appearance.



I really love how Obsidian painted the NCR as not a perfect faction. They have good and bad people and that really is what I loved. The game doesn't have a clear "good vs evil" plot. I'm hoping that other factions to come would be as complex as the factions Obsidian created.

So Lyon's BOS and the Followers of the Apocalypse are the two factiosn I would love to see in upcoming FO games. However, I also want new factions but they shouldn't be generic. They should have their own story to tell and be as engaging as the ones in FONV.

I guess its sort of like everyone guessed all of Germany was pro-Hitler, but even the soldiers weren't too crazy about it, at least some of them.

I second this notion.

I do basically agree with you there; one of the best things about NV is that there is no straightforward 'goodies vs badies' situation.

My sympathies for the NCR exist because I see the same evils in their society as I do in mine, and not being an anachist favouring sort of person, I tend to look at the NCR as the better option despite their pandora's box (and bad leadership).

Some people who wield Power Armor + Miniguns (or Gatling Lasers) my fallout fanship would be complete
Also if on East Coast:
Lyons' BOS
Outcasts

West Coast:
NCR
BoS or Enclave Remnants
... Also Mr. House!!

The factions I want to see are:
The Powder Gangers
Lyons BoS
Enclave Remnants
Caesars Legion(who now occupy half of the USA, i think that would be cool)
NCR(remnants)
And some faction that worship RoboBrains, similar to Dragon Preists, but a lot weirder, and no magic, of course.

Its very Democratic to wage war on all that oppose your rule and don't want to be under your banner
Did the people of the NCR, like the farmers or shopkeeprs, get to vote Kimball etc in or did they get their position from rep with higher ups in the senate?
Tandi's hold on power didn't seem very democratic either - reigning for decades unopposed, surely she had some flaws that would creat opposition.
Old America was democratic, NCR is democratic - I see a pattern arising, maybe it will follow suit and have bombs dropped on it

I don't like the NCR, sure, but I ain't oblivious to the few positives they have.
When part of that 1% holds the power and highest form then yeah they are the "country".
I don't think I've met a single NCR person only out to help others.

Maybe thats too over the top even for House's tastes.. For me, Mr House can not be a bad guy never the old 'wants to take over the world' villain anyways.. As for how it can happen, House was able to have a video conference with the courier even as far as the fort across the river so I am thinking that all he would need to be able to talk to people at a new settlement which is some distance away from Vegas is a similar computer installation to be present in any of the old buildings where these new people now live, a computer system just like in the fort/lucky38 should be fine.. Once he can appear on the monitors and talk to them directly, any tribals should be willing to listen to what he has to say if not, 2/3 securitrons will provide the needed persuasion with their new rocket launchers and automatic guns. Then he should be able to get them to do his bidding just as he did with the tribes in Vegas. Vegas was a place with remnants of oldworld cassinos which made him wealthy who knows what new place with what new resources house would want to expand to next..

He was the president of Robco which might have been involved in all sorts of research before the war.. once the threat of war has passed and his securitrons have become twice as better because of the platinum chip, any robco facility in Nevada (maybe all over the west coast or in the entire country) is within his reach. Who knows what new tech he can now get his hands on and what he would do with it..