Skyrim did a great job of recapturing the Morrowind style depth of exploration. Combat is obviously better and so is dungeon design. Morrowind still comes out on stop with storyline though, despite lack of voice acting and all that. The faction questlines were lengthy and in-depth and the main storyline in particular felt Oscar worthy almost. Other then the rich, alien culture and world, the story was what made it so great.

skyrim is 100000x better anyday of the week!

False.

I've played Morrowind and I think Skyrim is deeper. Morrowind was a great game but a terrible dice roll system made the game feel shallow, I like depth that's in and out of the menu and Morrowind kept it's depth in a Menu where Skyrim's depth is more in gameplay and there's still menu depth. That Terrible attribute system in Oblivion was started in Morrowind and it was bad then too.

Now there's something I don't hear that often.

I think Skyrim is a better game overall but depth is one of the few things I'll give to Morrowind. What did you find deep in Skyrim?

Skryim is the better game but Morrowind was the deeper game.

To be honest I'm both happy with Morrowind and Skyrim. One is fantasy-rooted, the other reality-rooted (almost no non-human races and lesser daedra).

I like both.

As a game I'll play Skryim, as a story I'll read Morrowind.

Oblivion is just meh...

-I'm not shoe horned into Altmer or Breton if I want a Viable mage.

- I don't have to spend hours jumping repetitively to be able to use terrain as an advantage.

- I can use tactics and fighting well to take on an opponent that's above my level. Dice rolls meant that no matter how well I played, an enemy would slaughter me.

- Beast races are not a gimped option. (Khajiit are easily the worst Race in the game, getting crumby skill bonuses and racial powers and lose 2 armor slots)

- Missile weapons are a viable combat option. Broken hitboxes + dicerolls made Bows next to useless and the other range weapons completely useless.

- even high tiered shortblades did next to no damage, Skyrim gave daggers a point with the Assassins Blade Perks.

- I don't have to practice skills I neither need nor want to get a good attribute bonus.

- Stealth is a much more viable tactic.

- Magic is useful without having to abuse the system or rely on bound weapons. My only Viable mage in Vanilla Morrowind was a battlemage that would one shot everything with a Bound Battleaxe.

- Enchanting is actually useful at low levels.

- Despite Destruction having the lowest damage of damage focused skill trees, it's far more Viable than it is in Morrowind without abuse.

I've heard it plenty, and there seems to be a fair few in this thread who have and feel that way.

So... the combat?

:rofl:

'Which had more depth and feel(graphics not included)?' Morrowind.

Does it make it a better game? Not really.

I'm amazed that so many people still feel morrowind is better on so many fronts. Even on stuff like content.

In morrowind, a lot of the content was big chunks of text that popped up when you talked to people. The fact that this was possible was a minor strength, tied to a great weakness. By the time oblivion launched, everyone expected (probably everyone here too) that dialog should be voiced, otherwise the immersion is totally gone. Especially for these modern games. But if you put those huge chunks of text into voicework, they'll be talking for several minutes, and most people won't have the patience for all that. Not to mention the huge amount of data it would require. Now, books and notes have taken its place. For example, if you want to know more about dragonborn, you can read a book about it. If you want to know more about the dwemer, there's tonnes of books about it. If you want to know the story behind the bandit cave you just cleared out, there's often a journal to be found with an interesting story about those otherwise bland bandits.

Also the alien landscape of morrowind was nice, but bethesda absolutely nailed the nordic landscape in skyrim. Especially the area between solitude, markath and whiterun is amazing. Oh, and of course the hot springs northwest of Riften. And so many other locations.

Another thing is the quests. There were some nice quests in morrowind, but most of them were terrible. You'd get fighters guild missions where all you had to do was travel to a city, talk to some guy and travel back. I'll take radiant missions over those any time of the week. And because of how cool the locations for these radiant missions usually are, they're more interesting then the first quarter of most morrowind questlines by themselves.

What is all this "rose tinted glasses" and "nostalgia" crap people are spewing? It's not like Morrowind is some isolated incident in the past people vaguely recollect. We're not senior citizens looking back on our youth. You can install/reinstall Morrowind RIGHT now and play it and actively compare it to Skyrim in the present.

I myself spent the last two weeks before Skyrim's release replaying Morrowind—it was as amazing as it always was. I enjoy Skyrim enough that I doubt I will be revisting Morrowind any time soon, but Morrowind is still fresh enough in my mind that I can easily say it had a lot more depth to it.

And if you think that looking back to a month ago is nostalgia or "rose tinted glasses" you need to get checked out for Alzheimer's or dementia.

I refuse to be impressed until I get a quest to save an Altmer's pillow collection from some rats! :biggrin:

Awww, now I'm sad, with all the disasters that befell Morrowind those pillows are probably all gone. Even the good ones.

And yet, the amount of people that would trade in Skyrim for Morrowind, with all of the original mechanics, but Skyrim's graphics, would be small.

People would complain about how the game feels lifeless, cluttered and overly complicated. About the dialogue being textbased, the combat feeling clunky and extremely unresponsive. About the NPCs appearing as lifelike as a robot with autism.

Basically, if you want Morrowind back, you play Morrowind. If you want a game that has got all the features, all the "depth" and "sense of mystery" (overrated, really) you will have to trade in everything that Skyrim (and Oblivion) has (have) got and Morrowind hasn't got.

For me Morrowind had much more variety and dept. That is not to say that Skyrim is no good. But i can say i like Skyrim more than Oblivion and still Morrowind is at the top of my elder scrolls games.

and Stealth and Magic.

Yes, Morrowind was great and I enjoyed it much more than Oblivion or Skryim. Now, for the love of God, can we please stop making these threads?

To stop them spawning you'll probably need to go on an epic quest first.

I still have Morrowind installed on my PC and i still play it now and again. This is what makes Morrowind the best for me. Oblivion i have played on and off since release, but its always Morrowind i go back to.

If in 10 years time I am still playing Skyrim on and off, then i might rate it above Morrowind.

BUT, lets be real here, Skyrim is a GREAT game. One of the best games i've ever played in fact. Skyrim will always be one of those games i love even when i finally stop playing.(if i ever do)

It just comes down to personal preference i think, Skyrim has better graphics,combat and a superior a.i in every respect. Morrowind has more depth,more unique items and places to discover. It has a very alien feel to it where as Skyrim is typical Nordic/viking medieval with magic. (that is not a bad thing btw)

The very fact people still try to compare a 10 year old game to Skyrim says it all really, Morrowind is a great game.

One thing i never understood about this community is why so many people are hostile towards each other when somebody even dares say Morrowind is better or Oblivion is better etc?? They are all TES games and no matter which one you personally feel is better, the series as a whole is probably the best game series I've ever played.

WTF is this 'depth' people are constantly rambling about?

As for "nostalgia" and "rose tinted glasses": You can't really compare a game you are playing for years now, with a game that came out last month. You are bound to be more emotionally tied to the game you spent more time with. But you could ask yourself: if you had bought Morrowind one month before Skyrim and had played it for just one month before switching to Skyrim, would your assessment be the same?


I played Morrowind to death. It is a great game - one of the best games ever IMO. But the things that made Morrowind great in my eyes are all present in Skyrim. Plus Skyrim has a lot of other stuff I love, which is not present in Morrowind. (the shouts, crafting weapons, dragons, voice acting, ...)

True: Morrowind was more alien/strange - which I love (silt striders, the Ministry of Truth, the Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, Telvanni Mushroom Towers ...)
But Skyrim is the better gaming experience for me.

Do I have to slay butthurt dwellers? Because I really want to slay some butthurt dwellers.

The Morrowind [censored] are the ones ruining the forum.

Lemme establish peace among you all, a la Lelouch ...

Daggerfall > all TES games.

why is this a poll? its like asking which country has more people, china or north korea?

there is a definite answer to this poll and its morrowind, its a fact... not opinion.

anyone who voted for skyrim has obviously never played morrowind...