Life doesn't work like that i'm afraid. Opinions aren't all equal - sometimes some people are right, and others are wrong.


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Ok, i'll stop trolling now or i'm going to piss a lot of people off. :twirl:

I'm sorry, but your opinion is wrong.

"MorrowWind" this "MorrowWind" that. Skyrim is new and better.

Cheers

Daggerfall. Better than Morrowind and Skyrim.

Yes and no.

It's definitely a better RPG.

I'm sorry, but your facts are wrong.
They (opinions) can't be wrong, it's what the person themself believe. It doesn't have to be factual.
I might be wrong but I don't give Skeevers tail. Before it took an arrow to its knee.
I went off-topic. :sadvaultboy:
Edit2: whoops elves-elf.

It was a slight joke... :teehee:

Don't mess with the Urns. On that note, offerings (plants,gems) instead of gold coins.

I think if you went feature for feature, Skyrim would blow Morrowind out of the water. All i hear is whining about a few missing cool spells and attribute points. really? We finally have dragons now and people complain!?

Skyrim adds way more than what was left behind. The ironic thing is that those complaining about it being "dumbed down" are the ones who cant see the forest for the trees. Leveling up is much more deeper now, and the 1-handed skill isnt as simple as you think.
I loved Morrowind and rightfully so, Skyrim is its more well rounded and polished successor.

wow! 50/50 right now

Agreed. Matter of fact, when I first bought Morrowind I thought it was absolutely awful. Played a few hours and then reinstalled Daggerfall. Later, I gave MW a chance again and played through the MQ and all side quests with one character and then it was basically back to Daggerfall again.

I am sick and tired of people calling it nostalgia when i prefer morrowind. morrowind was not my first game but it was a superior rpg in comparison to feel. And newer does not mean better, Elder scrolls is loosing what made it above all the other rpgs. We are not debating which one is better we are debating which one has more feel.

Haha, my vote made it an even 50/50. I voted for Skyrim, because even though you said to discount graphics and visual. For me, personally that has a lot to do with how in depth I consider a game. In Morrowind for all it's long stories, and tedious quest lines, it never really felt like "depth" to me, more like a ton of tedious reading and walking around. I loved it, don't get me wrong, but now that I'm older and have more to do in life, Skyrim is a lot mroe in depth, simply because I'm able to get more done at one time. If I had to read every journal, book, and then walk for hours to find something like in Morrowind, I'd have to leave in the middle of some quests. That would kill my immersion.

More feel? What does that even mean? And really, what does comparing each game to one another do in the end? Does it change anything? It does not. Yes they're different.

Bah, it's super late... I wanted to add the forbidden joke, but then I posted it before it took an arrow to the knee. :sadvaultboy:

True, but if you take a closer look at it, it's not as glorifying as it may seem.

Look at the one-handed skill tree. there is only 1 perk that only apply to axes. There is only 1 perk for maces, and 1 for swords. I would hardly call this a deep specialization. It's only there to serve as an illusion for specialization. Really, all it's there for is a band-aid for the deep wound that was inflicted upon the complexity of weapon specialization when bethesda decided to "streamline" the game by merging ALL one-handed weapons together into a single skill.

I miss the days when training with an axe contributed to my strength, which would help me use other melee weapons a bit better, but for the most part it helped me use axes better. I could still pick up a sword and not feel like it was a foreign object, but it would definitely feel different and I wouldn't be nearly as proficient in the art of swordmastery. I'm not saying the system in morrowind was perfect. It had its flaws.

In fact, I like the perk system in Skyrim a lot. But it doesn't make up for the merging of all melee weapons into two skills.

I do think we need more skills back in the next iteration, because it's become obvious that instead of being a highly specialised expert with axes (or whichever implement you prefer), we're down to just basic archetypes at this point, with little variation or difference in play style between one warrior (or mage, or thief) and the next.

I love Skyrim and I am playing a thief which is fantastic fun, but I'm not going to be able to play one of 4 different specialised warriors for my other playthroughs, using different types of weapon for each character, it's going to be much more generic. I'd like to see a bit more skill diversity in future games in order to make really unique characters for each playthrough.

What made Morrowind great?

The aquatic world, Levitation, the Fork of Horripilation and non-feral Guar..."Grrrrrrrr".

Feel is subjective, not objective. I personally felt very detached from Morrowind as a world. I had a hard time getting immersed in it, because for me ambiance is everything, and Morrowind didn't have much ambiance. It was pretty bare, and audio wise, it was pretty dead. Then there was the whole, putting your weapons away and they'd disappear. Lots of little things like that pulled me out of the world. The overall tone was dark, which was good. I loved the alien landscapes, and the story was pretty good--played out like a decent fantasy novel. But to me, Skyrim feels better. It to me retains some of that dark tone that Morrowind had, adds a very absorbing ambient environment, much better handling of music, etc. We can argue about the rpg elements until we are blue in the face, but as we are being completely subjective here, to me Skyrim feels better. Don't get me wrong, I like Morrowind. And I LOVE Daggerfall, which was better than Morrowind.

It's not nostalgic to me....I still play it regularly.

Yes to all your points. Another issue with the illusion of perk tree depth is that a lot of perks are just add +X dmg to item/action Y. The trees look a lot thinner if you consider that. I like perks, too, they're just not the be-all and end-all that Todd claimid, and a million fans have parroted.

BTW, it didn't work great, but remember that Morrowind had different slashing, thrusting, and chopping attacks/stats for each weapon type. It could have been an interesting system if they'd worked on it more in later games.



I agree, but don't get your hopes up. I think you'll have to look to other games for that type of gameplay.

exclusion of fast travel, now before you flame, think about skyriim if you couldn't fast travel? The things it does for immersion is uncanny

Nostalgia and Cliffracers

Spears. Spears for the Spear God. Crossbows for the Crossbow Throne.

Ahhhh, it's been so long since I've played morrowind that I've forgotten all about that. They removed it in oblivion and never bothered to implement it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY