Assuming you bothered to buy skyrim If you play oblivion and skyrim concurrently, perhaps you could elaborate on why you still play oblivion, and what are its , uh, attractive points.

When i first played oblivion, it was nearing my end of year exams; as such i was rushing through the game and not getting the full utility out of it (fast travelling everywhere, not bothering to read books, etc) and thus i would like to play it again sometime (when im not plagued by studies ) So im curious as to what you guys think are the winning points of the game, and if possible, in which area does it surpass skyrim in. (if any? )

Perhaps i should rephrase; im not asking skyrim or oblivion, im asking to find out why do you play more oblivion. Because the fact that you're in this forum would probably show that you still play a healthy amount of oblivion from time to time , and not be like "ok skyrim's out, i'll play more skyrim than oblivion now".(Hmm, that still didnt make much sense. Apologies, english isnt "really" "officially" my first language, so some of my sentences may be, uh, incoherent.) I wish i could change thread titles

Well i like Oblivion way more. The guilds actually mean something, the landscape is green and sunny which kind of brings me peace. It's more colorfull. Skyrim is just white and white and white which kind of svcks in my book. I like snow but there is limits to it imo. Also in Oblivion the questlines are waaaaay longer. Skyrim is cool and stuff but not superior in any way if you compare it with Morrowind or Oblivion. But hey it's just my opinion, the Skyrim dlc's just started popping out and we might just see some epic stuff around the corner

Because both are great games - to me, neither is better than the other. Both have different strengths and weaknesses, both are different 'styles' if RPG.

Where does it surpass Skyrim? It's quests have more variety, it's a much warmer and friendlier place, it's NPCs have more complex schedules, it's got plenty of lore after the game's events to work with, it's mage's questline is stronger, it has spells such as open lock and on-touch spells. I could go on.

To me, both Skyrim and Oblivion are both canvasses for me to paint my character's story on. The two canvasses are very different, yet share many of the same qualities. At the end of the day, I have no preference - which game I play simply depends on my mood.

Hmm, i seldom notice that, though i know what the oblivion NPCs stroll somewhere at a certain time, and eat at another time. And some of them have really wacky schedules So skyrim characters don't have that? Because i don't have a habit of watching NPCs walk around, heh

Skyrim characters definitely have schedules, but Oblivion went a step further. Skyrim characters tend to follow the same schedule every day of their lives, whereas Oblivion has a lot more variation.

For example, once a month the Countess of Leyawiin will travel to Chorrol to visit her Mother. An Argonian from the Imperial City will visit his friend in the Chorrol Mage's Guild every month or so. It adds a really nice touch to the game.

There's also a man in the Imperial City - a married man - who will visit another woman's house one night a week and sleep in her bed with her. His poor wife!

I play Oblivion for the unintentional comedy.

But would you normally notice this kind of thing when playing?

Yeah, I noticed the countess once and followed her on her journey. For some reason someone on the trip accused another one of being a filthy thieve. The thieve was knoced unconsciousness by the bodyguard and the gang continued their way. When the thieve woke up again, everybody ran in panic around the forest until the thieve was knocked out again. The whole scenario contiuned from Chorrol all the way to Leyawiin.

Oblivion is more fun and more exciting, and its fun lasts. I got bored of Skyrim pretty soon, the novelty quickly wore off and for months it was more of a chore and obligation to play just for the record. One can enjoy pretty for the prettyness' sake only for so long.

for people who dont know Skyrim is supposed to be white because of the snow!!!! but ok.
Oblivion its much more,well you know its a bit better i have to admit

I would, and do. I suppose that if the player's attention is focused on questing and combat, this subtle stuff will be missed.

Oblivion is a far richer game than people give it credit for. There's a lot of stuff going on that the casual player won't notice. It's a wonderful setting for complex role playing.

Skyrim, for me, is very shallow in terms of an RPG. I feel as though Oblivion offers more room for creativity from the user.

I dislike these either/or questions. I think this "Oblivion or Skyrim" atitude that seems to be so prevalent nowadays is pointless and divisive.

I play both.

I agree with you. I don't play Skyrim, but it has nothing to do with better or worse.

If you like a game, play it.

Easy. Oblivion does not force me to download anything. Same reason I got FO3 instead of FO:NV

Skyrim is the vacation, Oblivion is home.

One day I guess I'll feel the same about Skyrim, when I've had as many years with it as I have had Oblivion. For now though, the lush forests, beautiful lakes and comedy NPCs keep me coming back to good old Cyrodiil. That isn't to say Skyrim isn't beautiful- it is. But it's just different.

Both games are equally good.

LOl. it's the opposite for me! Skyrim is my home, Oblivion is the vacation. We're like opposites. I will never give up Oblivion, but I'm into Skyrim a lot more these days.

My nephew was over on the weekend, and I wanted to show him how Kinect works in Skyrim, but before I could do so, I had to switch from PS3 to Xbox, and turn off Oblivion before putting in Skyrim.

"You still play oblivion?" he asked. You had to hear the way he said it ... it was like this incredible thing to him. He abandoned Oblivion months ago, apparently.

I certainly do. On more than one occasion I've found the Countess and her Bodyguard wandering across Cyrodiil or heading up to Castle Chorrol.

Well I live both games, but I usually play oblivion when I'm in the mood for some quests that are better written than skyrims. I mean seriously, the bulk of skyrims quests are just fetch quests, while oblivion's usually go a step further in storytelling.

What I meant was, it doesn't really have an impact on anything, does it?
Any unique dialogue or scripted event that occurs when she reaches her destination?
I see a lot more wandering NPCs in Skyrim than I ever did in Cyrodiil.
I know they're random scripted events, but still.

I think the "impact" of all this subtle scripted stuff escapes a lot of players' notice. This is "world-building." Those little "unimportant" touches are what makes Oblivion's Cyrodiil a human place to live and play. People are doing unimportant things, because mostly, that's what happens in life. They make small talk in the streets, mostly meaningless, because that's what people really do.

It's the same way with the landscapes, and the forests, and the dungeons. There's tremendous variety, but it's all done with subtlety, and with a sense of humor. There are jokes everywhere. Goblins who drank themselves to death. A throne that is rigged to hit you with a swinging mace if you sit on it. Giant versions of ordinary plants, randomly set here and there. It's like playing a part in a vast dark comedy, with mudcrabs as the running joke.

You could say that about all the trees and bushes in the game, too. They don't have an impact on anything, there's no unique dialogue or scripted event connected with trees and bushes. But the world would less real, less interesting, less alive without them, wouldn't it?

I agree with you about Skyrim's NPCs, though. To me too it seems as though there's a lot going on around my character in Skyrim. I see caravans of Khajiit, Thalmor and Imperial soldiers leading prisoners to jail, Nobles riding horses, hunters, couriers, M'aiq and other unnamed NPCs walking the roads all over Skyrim. I love that aspect of Skyrim. To me the game world really feels alive and in motion. Of course, one could say that that doesn't have an impact on anything either.

you can't be serious...

I prefer Oblivion MUCH more, it was my first ever Elder Scrolls game! I love the guild quests, the Npcs, the beautiful forests, the amount of unique weapons, and the awesome looking armor. I also like how you can actually go find good pieces of armor instead of crafting them. I also like the way we have Major and Minor skills.

Overall, I love Oblivion =).

There are a number of people - not just mirocu - who refuse to have anything to do with Steam. My Significant Other is one. She has played and modded Elder Scrolls games since 2002 and to this day she refuses to buy Skyrim.

Purchasing a product is a form of communication. When we puirchase a product we are saying, in effect, "I like this." Many people take a principled stand when a product does something they do not like. They do not want to be counted among those who say, "I like this."

That's my position, too. I'm not saying "I'll never budge," but as of this moment my dislike of Big Brother Steam overrules any desire to own the last two Bethesda products.