Oh dear lord, that's repugnant! Why would you bring up such a thing on a forum that allows 13 year olds to post here!?

Blech! Marriage has been turned into an utter abomination and a wretched bane upon the 98% who do it for the wrong reasons. Tell your girl that if she loves and trusts you, she'll understand that you want it to be perfect. Rushing matrimony is about the worst decision one can make. Five years of dating, minimum.

Well I guess it depends on the scenario. In my and my fiance's religion, we are to abstain from six and cohabitation until marriage. When we get married in December, I'll be 21, he'll be 23, and we'll have been dating about three years and have known each other for five. I get a lot of flak from co-workers about "marrying too young" or "rushing into it" (I'd hardly call it that since we've been thinking of it and preparing for it and discussing it for a while), and I make what I believe to be a valid point with them: All of my co-workers who are in relationships have had six hundreds of times with their lovers, they are living with them and have been for a while, and they share household responsibilities and funds, and quite a few of them have children and they're my age or up to late twenties. I tell them that getting married can wait for them since it's basically a piece of paper; they're doing everything else that marriage traditionally entailed. To us, however, marriage means we can begin to get on the path for having children, sharing a home, building a home, etc.

There's nothing wrong with either school of thought; I just wish I got the same kind of respect for my decision as I give to others (not saying you aren't).

Well, congrats to you both. I sincerely hope it works out, I hope it's everything you both want.

My thing is that I find people marry for the wrong reason, and by association, too soon. I think a couple MUST be married to each other in spirit before they are married on paper. I don't think marriage should change a relationship. I know, the typical thought is that that next step makes the relationship stronger, but from all the experiences I've had and learned from, that's just a hopeful illusion. I don't exactly disapprove of marriage, not at all. I'd like to be happily married one day. I have high standards for the custom, though. I want it to not change the relationship, and just be about financial benefits. I know it sounds callous to say anything like "marriage should be about tax breaks", but that's all it would be to us if my partner and I are truly married in spirit. If we act like we're married, talk like it, tell people we are, all that... Then the only thing marriage would be to us is extra money. That's a couple that's seen it's darkest days. That's a couple that can handle all the seemingly small things that may lie in their future. That, in my opinion, is perfect.

I completely agree. In my religion, I see many couples marrying at 18, 19, and only after dating between 3-6 months. They don't even give enough time to know each other 'cause kids are on the way after the honeymoon.

Yea, that's what I hate. I've seen it happen pretty close to home, too. I use their experiences to learn what they wish they had.

:huh:

So what are religions, fake-world ideas? For starters, each religion incorporates a certain explanation of the world and the universe. I would say that an explanation of the universe is as real-world idea as an idea can be, mate.

Probably keeping their heads down with work, in one form or another.

Congrats! We have a no six after marrige in my faith, and I would not call getting married at your age "rushing" if you have talked about it. Having it wiith your gf/bf is too far and rushing it, IMO.

Anyways, what men want is a place to be awesome, so we can look oh-so very awesome and people will praise us. A companion, console, computer, drink, food, bed, BIG AND SHINY GUNS, and internet We cannot live without it.

Ouch....

Kindness is an absolute must. Intelligence is important for me too. Ideally, my woman would be interested in video-games, music and fitness like I am, but these things aren't deal-breaking if they don't interest her.

In terms of physical appearance, I absolutely hate women who are too skinny. I like women who have a bit of meat on their bones, and I'm in the minority of guys that prefers pale girls to tanned girls.

Someone witty, devoid of fake tan and cosmetic surgery, preferably no bigger than UK size 12 (US size 10), and definitely non-religious.

Careful, she wasn't so nice to her last husband and his reincarnation...

I love crazies. Its my only weakness. Pretty bad for my emotional health though...

Not in that sense, I mean that I don't see how they have as big of an impact as your sig seems to make them be. Aside from culture a personal feelings. People are (generally) more accepting of other religions now-a-days. You really don't see any more Crusades going on any more.

I recommend you stop discussing religion :nono:
I'd like to see this thread continue...

A woman who can put herself in the shoes of her man and can deal with the same things he can and expects nothing more of him than she can expect of herself.

I was with a girl who was all nice to start with, she wasn′t pushy, she was helpful, she didn′t expect things I didn′t expect of her and in general it all felt pretty equal, untill she got too comfortable with being around me. Then she just started getting controling.

She is the type that fakes niceness to strangers and treats people worse and worse as she gets to know them better, it all started out small, I′m not a very bulky guy and she is a bit overweight so when she told me she wanted me to work out a little I told her I was fine with it as long as she worked off a few kilograms too, initially she said she was okay with that, it ended up with me keeping on working out just to find out that she had not lost kilograms but gained them. I always worked hard and gave her stuff on occasions, and she started out doing that but gradually started to forget, I never expected her to give me too much so I forgave her the times she forgot occasions, but then on the one time I forgot one of her occasions she started to pout... I can go on but basically she is the type that acts perfect to begin with and then when she feels comfortable thinking you′re not going anywhere she relaxes and thinks it is given that the man should put more effort into the relationship than she does. I ended up dumping her.

So the ideal woman in my mind is the opposite, a woman who is straightforward, nice and hold no more expectations of her spouce than she does of herself.

But really, this seems to be a growing trend, in my country there is a feminist organization and the latest motto they′ve come up with is "Equal is not enough!"... =.=

Don't tempt me to get banned by linking to a picture of a very recent example.


Indeed.

me as a man saying this
not all men want in your pants
i want a girl to talk to and listen to

For me all I want is someone who will let me do the things I love to do in life. For me those things are: 1. Video Games 2. Hanging out with friends 3. Energy Drinks 4. Alcohol 5. Energy Drinks 6. And did I mention Energy Drinks? As long as I am allowed to live the way I like and I am not being controlled I am good.

Oh good, I'm not the only one who caught that.



I wonder...
GENTLEMEN, what is your favorite feature of a girl's body? Don't be shy, now. Complimenting her eyes is sweet, but say "the booty" now, since she can actually do something to improve that.

Me, I definitely like the abs. Not a thing wrong with an average build, but a gal with flat, tight abs just... I melt. Just a puddle of "ohgawdyes".

If we're gonna go that route, I'm gonna have to say, as you put it, "the booty".

Now, as far as "what do I look for in the opposite six"...She's gotta be into trying new things (doesn't have to be a gamer but isn't opposed to trying video games). She has to share at least some of my musical interests. Good personality with a good sense of humor (dark humor, preferably). Some sort of talent (you're boring if you can't do anything well).

Also, is it shallow for a guy to say he wants a girl to be attractive? I know that "looks aren't everything", but...there's gotta be some sort of physical attraction, right? That's not shallow, that's common sense.

I don't think I can pick a favourite part. Eyes, neck, mouth, legs, bum...it's all good. The overall package is key.

From an evolutionary standpoint it makes sense. Attractive people tend to have attractive children. Of course this goes for all attributes. Which would probably explain why there's so many stupid, stuck up beautiful people in the world.

It's not common sense, it's instinct. Big boobs = baby gets well-fed. Big butt/wide hips = baby makes it out easy. Big eyes are attractive, long legs are attractive, being short is attractive, being fit is attractive, being clean is attractive... Every animal has a generic guideline for how it looks for a mate. Humans just get self-conscious and feel guilty when they judge another by looks.

Im a little late.

I am very happy with my current girl, here are the quality's I like about her.
1) she can cook almost as good as me.
2) She is very down to earth.
3) so has a job and understands that money is not free and doesnt fall out of the sky.
4)She doesn't ask me to buy her this or that all the time. In face she never asked me to buy anything.
5) she is willing to split the cost of dinner, or Ill pay one night and she pays the next.
6) she doesn't mind me playing games, she has hey hobbys and I have mine.
7) she looks good to me.

There are things about her I don't like but its very few.

Things that are a instant turn off for me.
1)Money hungey.
2)no job or gaols.
3)superficial
4)cant cook
5) doesn't understand why I play games / hates games.
6) afraid to get dirty.
7) doesn't want to learn anything new.

One of the best things about my current girl is that if I am talking about something she knows nothing about I can try to explain it to her and she has learned a bit. She even likes most of the same things I do.