No idea why, but my city guards are baring their schwarzes (as Mel Brooks would say) below the waist, no matter what reasonable armor they've got on. I've tried a few different armor mods to see if the problem was there, but nothing changed that: they kept hanging out, so to speak. I also checked and even reinstalled Roberts Male Body 4 in the clothed version, which is the default. When I reloaded, and check out another group of guards, they were still exposing everything to the air.

Now, I don't want that. I'm a fairly open-minded kind of guy, and I don't mind some flesh showing, but this seems a bit out of place. Here's my modlist:

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If anybody can figure out what's causing the extreme frontal nudity, I'd appreciate it.

Hmm I really can't see.

But I must say, it must have been a very funny surprise eh?
I can't stop smiling, imagining a bunch of pantless guards moving around cities.

Well, even if they have some kind of greaves, they're missing the crotches. I can't help thinking that wouldn't be too useful in battle, not unless the various city nobility care to start a girls' choir made up entirely of former men.

Hmmm.... did you add any new mod lately? Maybe the glitch came into being then? Essentially I have no idea though, I'm afraid.

hmm ...maybe 76 GuardsofCyrodiil.esp ? is the only one i csn think of

That's a quest mod: "Guards of Cyrodiil Redux is a mod build mainly around the lore of the return of the Swamp Moth Legion from the Blackmarsh province and a special faction i invented which are part of the Imperial Legion called the Nightblades."

Good guess, though. It does seem to affect only guards. If it were ESP-less, Wrye couldn't really help too well, but as I can't even get the pants-version of Roberts Male Body 4 to show as such, I suspect it's an ESP. I just haven't any idea which.



Probably not a bad idea to check that.

Halt! I'm taking you in for questioning. *shudders*

That sounds to me like you've ended up with some sort of joke mod. While most authors have a certain sense of integrty when working on their mods, there's always the odd bozo who enjoys messing with people's game.

Diverse city Guards do not think there is any Robert's Male body replacers for that , disable that , rebuild bashed patch, see if helps any..

Diverse City Guards I actually just added to my list, in the hopes that it would overwrite whatever is causing this. It didn't, so I've taken it out, anyway.

I've an idea what it might be, but I'm not sure. To test it, I need something that will overwrite the various town guard meshes created by this mod. Any ideas what mod(s) I might use to check this out? I can't find any.

Tried to open the CAB files on the original Oblivion disc, to grab the original meshes and see if that worked out, but the CABs won't open. Tried a separate Oblivion installation on a second computer we've got, to copy the meshes--but for some reason I can't fathom, the meshes and textures are all still in BSA format, even after a new character has entered the IC.

Meshes and textures from Vanilla always stay in the BSA format. The game never extracts them to your hard drive.

If you want to do that, you can use OBMM or BSA Commander to extract them from the BSA, but if all you want to do is restore vanilla there is an easier way.

Move any files you want restored to vanilla out of your DATA folder. With no override files in the DATA folder, Oblivion will default to the original files in the original BSA archives. To restore your modified files, simply put them back where they came from.

Hmm, sounds a bit like Slof's sixy Male Armors. I don't know if it applies to all guards in all towns(bruma is a questionable place for running around hanging free, unless you're a nord).
I noticed that you have Slofs and Orcs Male Armors. Maybe it includes sixy guard armor as well as the fur and glass?

Thanks, Showler. That seems to have cleared it right up.