Is it just me, or would every single one support the NCR?

The Courier seems like the stand-alone protagonist for sure, not quite as morally good as the other three, probably supporting Indy Vegas or, if not that, Mr. House.

Since the Vault Dweller and Chosen One supported NCR, it would stand to reason they would support NCR. Lone Wanderer is forced to help the good guys and the NCR is the closest to being the "good guys" in New Vegas. So again its NCR.

Not so much the Lone Wanderer, he/she was pretty selfish to be fair.

Vault Dweller - NCR because Tandi started it and he knows Tandi.
Chosen One - NCR, father like son.
Lone Wanderer - Indie, he's a lone wanderer so he shouldn't fall under anyone banner and for an 18yr old to seize that much power would be a dream.
Courier - Legion, the Legion uses couriers, the Courier needs more work, hey presto.

NCR across the board, except maybe the Lone Wanderer he/she may go independent what with being allies with the BOS and not really knowing the WBOS may think they're similar so he/she looks to put them back on top.

I stongly feel the others would join the NCR even the courier who I got an NCR citizen vibe from. (I know he/she is a blank slate but just the fact he was a Courier in Primm and the other Courier was wearing an NCR satchel, plus depending on you choice he's been to New Reno.) Just my opinion though.

Though I highly suspect that the Vault Dweller would take serious exception to the war with the BoS and the corruption of Tandi's legacy. The Chosen One...not so sure, but probably wouldn't be happy with Kimball, and almost certainly wouldn't support Oliver's wasteful and egomaniacal disregard for human life in his perpetual and incompetant quest for his own glory.

Chosen One? Probably not Legion as his people were enslaved.
Lone Wanderer? Too goody goody two shoes and cannot do anything by herself but needs to take orders from others, so House would probably be good for her.
Vault Dweller? I'm gonna say Yes Man, he didn't take being told to back off at the end so I don't think he's a person that can see the bigger picture of things, so Legion, House, NCR, doubt he'd trust any of them.

I think you're simplifying things way too much, looking at their titles more than their actual personalities. The Courier is from the west (canon) and therefore not a loyal subject of Caesar at the beginning, and the entire game seems to revolve around the Courier trying to decide where he stands morally and on philosophical ideals, with the game itself implying that Independent Vegas is ultimately the "right" moral decision.
The Lone Wanderer on the other hand was raised by a bible-preaching father in a Vault that screamed "AMERICUH!" and he finds himself on various quests that involve honoring America's memory and the rule of democracy. I think he's the most obvious choice to support the NCR; he doesn't seem like much of a leader or thinker (smart, but not a philosophical thinker) and gladly falls in line when his leader screams "BECUZ AMERICUH!!"

The Chosen One and the Vault Dweller are the two I'm not absolutely sure on, though I think they'd probably support the NCR, seeing as it gives them a chance to support both the NCR and the BoS.


Again, NCR and BoS can work together, and the NCR shares many characteristics with the Eastern BoS.
And the Courier IS an NCR citizen. I should clarify, it's never explicitly stated that he's a CITIZEN, but does he work in the NCR region? Definitely. That doesn't mean he's an NCR supporter though. As Ulysses will say, "You've seen the NCR, didn't stay. You know the reason why."



EDIT: Also forgot the Warrior. I know very little about him.

If I was to think of options for them using their title names:
Vault Dweller - House - Vaults dweller are ancestors of pre-war people, House is pre-war GOLD
Chosen One - Legion - Sounds like a title given by them more than anyone, besides a few cultist groups.
Lone Wanderer - Indie - I still say this title gives for indie, maybe even a Legion guy.
Courier - Legion - Courier employed by Legion what I said previously.
Thats how their titles look to me. I don't think you wanted me to place them solely on title though?

I know they can, but I wasn't thinking the story would play out the same way if the Lone Wanderer wandered into New Vegas. I would think if he/she went there it be specifically to look for the WBOS in which if he/she found them would be lead to believe that the NCR are bad and the BOS would want him/her to wipe them out.

As for the Courier I still think he'd side with the NCR, regardless of what Ulysses says as he was ment to be similar to the Courier in that he'd change factions with the Courier, but not only that he just assumes the Courier dislikes the NCR. However I'd rather look at what the courier can say and being the he's from the west I doubt he'd let the Legion befall it or give up on it by kicking out the NCR essentially dooming it. Again just an opinion though, which I'm probably a bit biased toward considering the NCR is my favorite faction in New Vegas.

Canonly speaking or personally?
Given the background and situation of the vault and base characters VD: NCR.
Chosen one given the things you can do and the background. Things you can do: Independent ( House, Yes bot ) background none tbh, none match up main game.
Lone wanderer: Background, situation.. everything again none of them in most cases, forced situation BoS / NCR match up...

All an opinion.

The Vault Dweller - A normal vault citizen, from Vault 13. The water chip breaks, and they discover that there are no spare parts. Ordered to leave the vault and find a replacement. Along the way, saves a girl named Tandi's life in a tiny settlement called Shady Sands, joins forces with the Brotherhood of Steel, and defeats a massive army of Supermutants by destroying their leader, 'The Master', a psychically empowered mutant who has been physically reduced to basically a puddle of flesh and insanity. Afterwards, is exiled from the vault because he's seen the outside world.

The Chosen One - Descendant of The Vault Dweller, tribal from the primative village of Arroyo. The crops won't grow anymore, food is running out, so they run a test to see who's tough enough to 'find the Sacred GECK'...the winner of the test is called 'The Chosen One' and sent out into the world. Along the way, the Chosen One visits the newly formed NCR and meets President Tandi, visits Vault 13, which is full of talking deathclaws, meets Marcus, a supermutant sherriff who was best friends with a BoS Paladin, stops off at the THRIVING city of San Fransisco, and then stops the Enclave in order to rescue the kidnapped citizens of Vault 13 and Arroyo. They go back to Arroyo with the GECK and the Vault 13 citizens, and live happily ever after. Also stopped the rise of the Molerat King.

I felt compelled to give a little briefing on them for those who haven't played the originals.

The way I see it, the game is his story, the story is about the Courier struggling with doing what's right and finding his own philosophical beliefs, and the ending that's most implied to be correct/most implied by the developer's own writings is the canon ending. Arcade Gannon, Ulysses, Chief Hanlon, Cass (the latter two voicing that they love the NCR but don't know if a Mojave victory would "save us or drive us to our graves") and several other key figures all point towards an Independent Vegas. The devs have also voiced their love of Independent Vegas on numerous occassions.


The Vault Dweller's memoires and little details about Chosen in New Vegas also provide insight to their personalities.
To me, the Vault Dweller seems like he could potentially be as much of a philosophical thinker as the Courier (though I don't think that neccesarily means he'd also choose Indy Vegas), whereas Chosen seems like an adorable, naive little tribal who knows what he ultimately has to do but isn't quite sure of how the world works or how he should get there.

Anyone got detail on the Warrior, btw?

The Vault Dweller: I don't think he'd get involved, the Vault Dweller doesn't really care about politics, nor do I think he really cares for civilization in general hence why after being exiled from Vault 13 he leaves civilized lands for the north and founds a tribe. He's a bit like Joshua Graham in this regard.

The Chosen One: The Chosen One is a bit difficult, he's a tribal who seems to approach the civilized world with a naive sense of wonder... I think that the Chosen One would take the Independent path as the Chosen One is happy go lucky, and very short sighted, so Yes Man would probably seem like the best course of action to him.

The Lone Wanderer: I want to say House, the Lone Wanderer isn't much of a thinker so he wouldn't go the Independent path, and after the Enclave he'd probably be disillusioned enough with "America" that he wouldn't follow the NCR. Being the goody two shoes that was raised on Old World values he is he definitely wouldn't side with the Legion.

Of course, the Chosen One is also defined by his friends. So you have to wonder...who's hanging with Chosen to advise him? We know Marcus wandered off, and Cassidy settled down, but some words of wisdom may have rubbed off. Vic? That's a keen understanding of the economies of the wastes available there. Sulik? He may be a bit nutty, or he may actually be talking to ghosts. Either way, he has an astounding insight into what is really going on around him. Lenny? He may be a bit of a coward, but he's a pre-war doctor...that is NOT a stupid ghoul. He could probably piece things together very quickly. K-9? A sentient Enclave-made and educated cyberdog capable of human speech...that Enclave education could provide him with many insights. Skynet? If Skynet is with him, all bets are off. Not even House can out-calculate or out-plan Skynet, who could rapidly determine the possible outcomes from any result of the battle...and likely would, just out of curiosity. Goris? For being a 9-foot tall killing machine, Goris was extremely wise and intelligent.

The Chosen One may have been naive...maybe. But his friends most certainly were not, and while we don't know Goris' lifespan, we know Marcus is still kicking, Lenny would likely still be around, and Skynet is immune to age in the first place...not sure how long K-9 would last, but if Rex is any example...a long, long, long time.

Odds are, I think Chosen would side with Arroyo in the end...and that means against the Legion, one way or another. With help in plotting outcomes, he would possibly manipulate things to cause the ousting of Kimball and Oliver as his chief concern, in order to ensure Arroyo's prosperity.

Where have the devs said this? The only thing I remember a dev even mentioning the ending was that there was no canon and it should remain a mystery. Personally though I wouldn't mind a cannon NCR, House, or Independant ending just not Legion.

Also I didn't like how JS kind of said that Moore gets Crocker fired and bad mouths the courier which I don't recall actually happening in game nor in any of the endings.

In the Collector's Edition "Making of," many of them refer to Indy as their "personal favorite."
Avellone has also stated he agrees with Ulysses and thinks both Bear and Bull are doomed to fail and thinks nuking them might not be a bad idea.

Aka what blank slate would follow one of the above is what your asking . None of them have enough personality to really say .
But had you asked certain characters from the respective games like
Harold or the master or tycho , ian from fo1 or whatever then maybe .

The Master would just dip them all, and conquer the world.

I think after accumulating the best weapons and armor in the world as well as tons of loot, the Courier no longer needs to be a damn errand child. If you get the Mr. House ending, you live the rest of your life in luxury, presumably with all the Jet and cowboy ghoul dominatrix visits you could ever want.

The Chosen One is the Vault Dweller's grandson, his father is mysterious.

And I think the Lone Wanderer just wouldn't even want to get involved, either that or Indie because he helped the BoS in F3 and thinks the real BoS are the same.

Actually Avellone just says Independent is his personal favorite (Which is what he likes not what the Courier would do. which is what your op for the characters were directed at.) I'm sure some devs of the original Fallout's favorite ending was join the master doesn't mean it happened. I'm asking what in-game thing really points to you to think the Courier would side with anyone but the NCR? The only other option I can see that would make a bit of sense would point to House. He's delivering the chip which is his job and that he's obligated to fufill it. Again though just an opinion in which I'm curious about yours not a devs .

I know fine well who they are

And thus we need Mr. House to win. He kept a national, if not international, company afloat for 30 years as it's President and CEO, imagine what he could do for a nation the size of NCR. Look at what he did for America, and he didnt rule it, so he could do much for NCR without running it.

I try to interpret what I see as a book, and it's a bad idea to constantly hint at the failure of a nation and then say "LOL NVM they've got this" as the ending. The game is FULL of people saying the NCR is going to fail; same goes for the Legion. I WOULD agree with you if the Courier had plenty of dialog options to support the NCR. In this case, that would provide the game with an overall tone of "the NCR are the good guys, and if you don't do something to save the NCR, it'll die," but the Courier doesn't have many options to support the NCR vocally, if at all. The only conversation I can think of where the Courier voices an opinion about the NCR (save for convos with Ulysses, where he'll give similar praise to the Legion if you're a legion supporter) is with Captain Parker, and that was a negative comment the Courier voiced. Hell, in Lonesome Road, correct me if I'm wrong but if you want to be peaceful with Ulysses, you boxed into saying "You think I care if you bomb the NCR? Go ahead," even as an NCR supporter.
Short and sweet: I'd agree with you if the Courier had opinions every now and then that he could voice about supporting the NCR, but he doesn't. He can diss on them; he's more than capable of that, but he can't really support them through dialog.
So what remains? Who does the Courier support via dialog? Well, no one, to be honest. Ok then, we can't look to him for implications of what army the canon Courier supports. What about his surroundings; what about others? As I said, it's bad writing to say "this army is doomed LOL NVM." If you're gonna provide the game with an overtone of "this nation is doomed," you should stick to it. Is there an overtone of NCR failing? Definitely. Ulysses, a very important character, despises the NCR. Cass, an NCR citizen herself, will voice concerns that supporting the NCR, while nice, might not be what they need and might only speed up their damnation; she suggests you rethink supporting them. Arcade, who is arguably supposed to be the "smartest" person in the Mojave (perhaps aside from Mr. House, but the smartest person who isn't a part of one of the nations himself? probably), supports an Independent New Vegas. Independent Vegas is also the least criticized; once House dies, no one says "we're ****ed, (closest being the casino owners will ask what will become of the Strip), but rather people call him an a-hole and voice that they're glad he's dead. No one says "this is bad, anarchy will rule the streets," no one says "Noooooo our great leader," no one says "Time to leave Vegas then." NO criticism for Indy Vegas voiced by the characters in game. This is unprecedented, as every other major faction has strong critics: Legion is evil, NCR is corrupt and House is a manipulative jerk. Independent Vegas? No one says jack against it.
And finally, the story of the Divide. The Courier basically could've built up a nation, but due to his neglect, it failed. To me, this goes great with the story of New Vegas. The Courier has the Platinum Chip; the Mojave is his to craft and shape. Will he fail a second time? Maybe, or maybe not, but it's time to at least recognize that the Mojave is HIS nation now. To me, it's more fitting for the Courier to take the steering wheel himself under Indy Vegas rather than to try and guide another nation on how to build HIS nation.

For those reasons, yeah, I definitely think Independent Vegas is canon. If it weren't Indy Vegas, would it be NCR? Actually no, imo. Then it'd be House. Another point of discussion is that Indy Vegas/House provides the devs with an interesting situation where they're free to kill off ALL three nations or spare every single one. If Indy Vegas is canon, NCR and Legion are both free to make a recovery of sorts where they continue to exist in California and Arizona (albeit with ongoing problems, probably). OR they could bomb both to hell and say Vegas fell apart without House, becoming the Courier's second Divide. House is similar; doesn't fit QUITE as well imo (it'd kinda write off the possibility of all three nations falling and House would have to succeed; it'd feel really weird if New Vegas failed because people just stopped coming and the super-genius House never saw this coming), but it would still serve that purpose.

And finally, if you want my opinion which ending is best? I used to think House. Lately? Lately I think Indy Vegas... Thing with House is, people always say "he's selfish, he only cares about Vegas and only saved Vegas from the Great War." I used to think no biggie, because how is he supposed to save everyone, he's not REQUIRED to save everyone and I believe the Core Region would be nicer if we had three different nations that left each other the hell alone and did their own thing, so I like his selfishness. Lately though, I've thought about what he stands for, and then I kinda understand the complaints about him being selfish. House stands for capitalism in my mind, and look at capitalism today. There's always one person (or rather ok, in our world just a select few; in a world of 6 billion people with only 1210 or so billionaires though, yeah I think you get my point with "one person") who ends up on top and in charge, and that person calls the shots. The way I see it, House only saving himself (and Vegas, though his motivation behind saving Vegas is questionable) during the Great War basically kind of stands for the fact that by the end of the day, he's the most important and he's the only one that'll be saved in a Second Great War. Perhaps a better way to explain it is, we all know that New Vegas is nothing but a way for House to fund his new visions and ideas, correct? He basically admits to feeding off of the NCR like a leech, but justifies his actions by saying "the end justifies the means" and talks about his goals. Well what if, before the Great War, House leeched money off of the common man? He had resorts and casinos before the Great War, we know this. And where did that money go? Into saving House, that's where. Basically, people are just tools for him. I've always known this but supported him anyways simply because in end effect, I found his ideas good, so I didn't think it mattered. Now though? Now I dunno.
I find it ironic that, if you kill House and say it's "strictly business," he's still thinks you're a piece of trash. In that sense, I think he's a hypocrite. That's the exact code he lived by, and that you killed him for business purposes? Well, that simply means someone beat him at his own game. In the same way Ulysses says Caesar shouldn't be mad at you if you kill him because "you've proven his own theory to him," I think the same can be said for House. Those are the rules he insisted on playing by and thus he should be ready to lose by those rules. Surely good men with good intentions have died under House (or will continue to, such as The King), so his claims of all the good he wanted to do being a reason not to kill him are irrelevant.
I think House can basically be summed up by Dr. Hildern and Arcade Gannon. Hildern will send dozens of soldiers to retrieve the data of Vault 22, not caring for their well-being but rather only about the data. Arcade will reprimand him and say it's horrible that someone would dismiss the little guy and get lost within the big picture, to which you can either compliment Arcade on or say "but in the end, isn't it all just numbers anyways?" To me, this is the classic Indy vs. House issue. I'm somewhere in-between; idealist enough to agree with Arcade but realist enough to see House's way. However, what I've recently asked myself is if I could sleep at night if I were the one that supported this "big picture" thinking and made sure it became the standard, and to that? I'm not sure if I could...
Not to say I'm no longer a House supporter myself, I'm just....not sure now.