Spellmaking, armor & weapon degradation, combined cuirass & greaves, lack of locational damage, lack of weapon variety (especially in the ranged department), etc.

It seems to me like these are all features that could have made it in if Bethesda put a little less emphasis on making "beutiful grphix" and a little more on gameplay.

Ah well. I'll be fine just knowing I can dual wield spells or combine the same spell to enhance its effect.

What about no attributes in general?

Yeah, I dont like that either.

Did they say anything about combat from horseback?

If it isn't in (which I don't think it is), then definitely that. Seriously, nothing pissed me off more in Oblivion than not just being able to cut down wolves from the saddle, or charge at a group of bandits and let the heads roll without getting off.

You hit the nail on the head here. This is exactly why it frustrates me so much. What you described is what I want. It sounds so perfect, and it sounds TES, but, alas, it's not there...

I Voted for Attributes, they already got rid of Athletics and Acrobatics, so the thing i looked forward to was Speed. now that's gone O.o
i didn't wish for Turbo speed like you could have on Oblivion from Maxing Speed & Athletics but more like a Decent increase so you could catch up to stuff you couldn't before.
Unless increasing Fatigue gives speed, then i'm good

Yeah, they confirmed no mounted combat. I though that the natural progression from Oblivion would be mounted combat, maybe even a riding skill, but I guess not. Seems like they worried about graphics and appealing to new players.

Not having hth tied to a skill.

^

Dammit!!

Ah, well, it's still looking great. Seriously, though, why even include horses if we can't fight from their backs? It's like including shields that we can't block with.

lack of spellmaking

True, and that's not really realistic anyways... But the game has smithing! When your weapon gets damaged, you have to head into town. If you have the skill, you repair it yourself, or you pay the town blacksmith to fix it for you. It's just really frustrating. Sigh...

How could no mounted combat appeal to new players? That doesn't make any sense, most people want it (including my friends who have never played TES) although it would imbalance other combat options. The only known way to balance it would take health/armor variables out of the equation. It would also make the game very easy in most cases.

Omission implies that it was something that was always supposed to be there but got left out by mistake. All of these decisions were development choices, not omissions.

Im talking about in general, not mounted combat, or lack thereof.

Mounted combat would not be unbalanced, or unbalance other combat options.

Spellmaking. As someone who prefers to play a pure mage, I don't think the new spells are cool enough to justify losing it. In fact, the spells don't look much fancier than the Oblivion ones, with the exception of a couple effects. Flamethorwer thingy is ok, I guess. And the floor runes are new, but honestly most spells look the same as they always have. The frenzy spell? Guy gets hit with magic bolt, and then turns red and attacks his homies. I would assume most spells are like that, and therefore unchanged from oblivion for the most part.

Disagree.

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None of these definitions suggest they were left out "by mistake".

These omissions were development choices. And it's frustrating.

Sorry, let me rephrase. It implies that they left something out that was supposed to be there.

locational damage was never in and was never suppose to be in therefore it was not ommitted :shrug:

It's The Elder Scrolls. Which is a game series (mentioned for reiteration, not to be mr obvious). There's a relative familiarity from one iteration of TES to the next. When someone buys a TES game, there are certain expectations. I'm aware Todd states from iteration to iteration they try to look at it as a new game. But past three games in a row (at least) all have the same amount of races, that all generally look the same way, etc. And this is just one example.

So when TES is missing something that someone, like myself, believes to be integral to a TES game, it is frustration. It's an omission. Intentional by the developers. And, by being a TES game, it ought to be there. At least some people feel that way. Sorry you don't understand that (or don't care).

True, but I put it on there anyways because of Fall Out (Yes, I know FO is not TES).

Todd mentioned with locational damage they'd have something in there that wasn't exactly like Fall Out. And now there's no such thing as locational damage at all. Which makes it more annoying.

So it was added for these reasons. Plus I really think it should be in the game. I'm positive they discussed its inclusion. Btw, I DON'T want VATs. I just want crippled limbs, and if an arrow hits a head, it should matter more than hitting a foot. Simple concepts, ya know.

Right, except that things change from game to game. When they change a mechanic, that doesn't mean they're omitting something. It means they changed it. The lack of a specific class name doesn't actually change what you do in the game. The combination of cuirass and greaves doesn't omit any more than the combining of pauldrons and cuirass.

The cool thing about the Elder Scrolls series is that they do change things.

I agree wholeheartedly (except the pure mage part (though I do play casters only... who usually wield a dagger for role-playing reasons)). In fact, one of the highlights of the previous games was the ability to make my own spells, give them whatever name I desired and then just have it. I'm surprised they didn't take out the ability to enchant items as well.

This. I'll never understand people that dont care what they are given. Perhaps they never even played an ES game, or X mechanic? I'll Never understand why people would want less options.

there is no armour or weapon degeneration??? AWESOME!!! that makes up for not being able to block with duel weild.