What do people really want?

Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:24 am

But the ability to see your breath in the cold adds realism and immersion.....

And thats more important than a wider array of weaponry or the almost limitless possibilities of spell creation? Use your imagination. Although I think your post is being sarcastic?

Its not just that though, they say that it "breaks their immersion and they realize they are playing a game". Those people are not mentally stable enough to be playing video games if they cant tell the difference.
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Post » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:40 pm

Ok.. watch this.. atleast his a critic that you might listen to: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/75-Oblivion

THERE IS A VAST SPACE FOR IMPROVEMENT!

Those reviews are terrible and just reek of trying too hard to be attention grabbing.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:40 am

Beth is capable of quality and quantity. Id rather have things that were in previous games back that were awesome opposed to some silly new request like Helmet mode, or the ability to see my breath when I breath in the cold. More is almost always better. Peoples biggest complaint about Oblivion was all the content they lost from Morrowind to Oblivion. If, god forbid, Skyrim was even more 'streamlined' than Oblivion, there will be hell to pay. People wont be praising X new feature, they'll be screaming about X things we lost. If we had half the things that were in previous titles that were out now, we'd have the best ES ever and almost nobody would complain. Not to mention there was nothing wrong with the things they got rid of in the first place.


Everybody can find a reason to complain. So I would rather leave it up to the devs since they know what they are doing.
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Post » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:13 pm

Those reviews are terrible and just reek of trying too hard to be attention grabbing.


Attention grabbing? Many Game Companies take his critiques very seriously. Sure he doesn't always make the right points but most of what he says has a valid point and he pretty much nailed it with Oblivion. And they are not reviews!
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:48 am

Yes richard, i completely agree :)
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:13 am

Attention grabbing? Many Game Companies take his critiques very seriously. Sure he doesn't always make the right points but most of what he says has a valid point and he pretty much nailed it with Oblivion. And they are not reviews!

LOL no they dont and if they do, they're idiots. His 'reviews/critiques' are not even reviews/critiques, they're blog rants at best.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:38 am

LOL no they dont and if they do, they're idiots. His 'reviews' are not even reviews, they're blog rants at best.


Rant or no he still described the major problem of Oblivion very well.
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Post » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:11 pm

Rant or no he still described the major problem of Oblivion very well.

Not really, after watching that it makes me think he played a few hours of it and quit. Not to mention he admits that hes an action gamer not an RPG gamer. playing a game all night and losing track of time = Immersion? I must be immersed every single time I play a videogame then? And what was the major problem he describes? That there was only a handful of voice actors?
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:41 am

Rant or no he still described the major problem of Oblivion very well.

But that is all he seemed to go on about, he compared games which is stupid because no game is the same. And he never spoke about any of the good things of oblivion, I reckon 85% of the game was pure awsome, and the remaining 15% was just overcome and forgotten as you got into the game. You started to feel like the game was normall in how it works.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:56 am

People want EVERYTHING. And even if they DID get everything, they still wouldn't be happy.

Truth.
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Post » Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:05 pm

Attention grabbing? Many Game Companies take his critiques very seriously. Sure he doesn't always make the right points but most of what he says has a valid point and he pretty much nailed it with Oblivion. And they are not reviews!

No they don't. They are tired rants and nothing else. Any idiot could do that.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:58 am

People want EVERYTHING. And even if they DID get everything, they still wouldn't be happy.

Truth.

Truth don't lie.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:02 am

Omg seriously now thats just [censored] rude, i'm sorry but your being a complete idiot, Who the hell are you to judge what sort of enjoyment people need to get out of their gaming experience? They wont forget they are playing a game and they know very well how to differentiate a game from reality. You guys speak so much about using imagination and what the heck do you think people are doing when they are immersed into the game? What we complain about is the fact that the game ruins that imagination aspect by having does completely off moments and bugs. Yes we knows its a game! Yes we know it has bugs, but why do you think we present possible solutions?

I'm sorry dude i don't want to offend you but really managed to piss me off. Talking about other people like your some sort of purist and calling them mental sick..seriously? Do you get any enjoyment out of that maybe? Perhaps you should get a head exam too.

I said some of the immersion people might need help, not you or all. I never said anything about imagination. Every game has off moments and bugs. I never said I was a purist. I don't enjoy pointing out that some people fail to recognize TES is just a game, not a life substitute. It's sad.

I think you and I might have different takes on immersion. If I play a game for hours without noticing, I consider that to be immersive.

You call me a complete idiot and then claim you don't want to offend me.

As long as we're name-calling, you, Sir, are a poopy head. :)
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:47 am

Ive never seen one immersion or realism person mention anything about bugs. Mostly its stuff like "I want to see my legs", or " I want rivers to sweep me away and I want to not be able to swim unless I get naked and somehow carry around an invisible sack of 300+lbs. of loot...while Im swimming".


So what? They will most likely be disappointed then because all does things wont probably be implemented, does that mean they are mentally challenged or crazy? And your telling me there were no threads created that had more believable solutions to some of the game problems? I made a post about Combat Mechanics and how the game should be more penalizing of people making mistakes when fighting. Its something they are working on in Skyrim.. i don't know what exactly they are doing but from the videos i can see they are doing changes, and i believe these changes will effect the immersion quality of the game.
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Post » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:01 pm

(ops double post)
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:54 am

(ops double post)

Ive seen plenty of people say 'X breaks my immersion and then I know Im playing a game". Really, they didnt know they were playing a game before that?
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:53 am

Ok.. watch this.. atleast his a critic that you might listen to: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/75-Oblivion

THERE IS A VAST SPACE FOR IMPROVEMENT!


EEGGGHHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHH!

First, please don't call it a review. It's not a review. It's a rant. Like the one you're about to experience.

Not every opinion is a review. Not every change is a necessity. Not every suggestion should be incorporated. Just because people listen to an opinion, doesn't make it a good one. Millions of people followed Hitler and Stalin and look where it got them.

To an answer the OP's question: What do we want? An Elder Scroll's game. Not a Final Fantasy game. Not a Fable game. Not Dragon Age: Origins. Not Mass Effect. Not Fallout 3 or 4 or 16. I don't care if Bethesda made the games, if I want to play Fallout, I'll buy the freakin game. I want Skyrim to be an Elder Scrolls game, like Oblivion and Morrowind.

I want the game to follow the already established lore. I want it to maintain the unique Elder Scrolls artistic look. I want it to improve gameplay elements, but not so radically that I feel like I'm playing an entirely different game. And I want an epic freakin' story!!!

Most importantly, I want Bethesda to keep the promise it made to me when it release the gameplay trailer. I want that experience. I think I'll get it.

What I don't want is: guns, vampire armor, Batman blades, 15 new minigames, a game so freakin heavy in data and scripts that I have to buy a supercomputer to play it, Bandits debating the subtler aspects of situation ethics, wolves I can ride, dragons I can romance, or companions I can . . . . let me just put it this way: if I see one freakin jerky avatar six scene I swear to God I'll scream.

There. Since you asked.

Rant over.

~ Dani ~ :)
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:27 am

EEGGGHHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHH!

First, please don't call it a review. It's not a review. It's a rant. Like the one you're about to experience.

Not every opinion is a review. Not every change is a necessity. Not every suggestion should be incorporated. Just because people listen to an opinion, doesn't make it a good one. Millions of people followed Hitler and Stalin and look where it got them.

To an answer the OP's question: What do we want? An Elder Scroll's game. Not a Final Fantasy game. Not a Fable game. Not Dragon Age: Origins. Not Mass Effect. Not Fallout 3 or 4 or 16. I don't care if Bethesda made the games, if I want to play Fallout, I'll buy the freakin game. I want Skyrim to be an Elder Scrolls game, like Oblivion and Morrowind.

I want the game to follow the already established lore. I want it to maintain the unique Elder Scrolls artistic look. I want it to improve gameplay elements, but not so radically that I feel like I'm playing an entirely different game. And I want an epic freakin' story!!!

Most importantly, I want Bethesda to keep the promise it made to me when it release the gameplay trailer. I want that experience. I think I'll get it.

What I don't want is: guns, vampire armor, Batman blades, 15 new minigames, a game so freakin heavy in data and scripts that I have to buy a supercomputer to play it, Bandits debating the subtler aspects of situation ethics, wolves I can ride, dragons I can romance, or companions I can . . . . let me just put it this way: if I see one freakin jerky avatar six scene I swear to God I'll scream.

There. Since you asked.

Rant over.

~ Dani ~ :)

I approve almost all of this message.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:06 am

There's no reason to get rid of spears, or throwing weapons, or spellmaking (if it does end up being cut) etc. More is better.



In that they should pick up Skyrim for what it is, not making Skyrim into what they may think it is, or they want it to be.


You should heed your own advice.
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Post » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:58 pm

EEGGGHHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHH!

First, please don't call it a review. It's not a review. It's a rant. Like the one you're about to experience.

Not every opinion is a review. Not every change is a necessity. Not every suggestion should be incorporated. Just because people listen to an opinion, doesn't make it a good one. Millions of people followed Hitler and Stalin and look where it got them.

To an answer the OP's question: What do we want? An Elder Scroll's game. Not a Final Fantasy game. Not a Fable game. Not Dragon Age: Origins. Not Mass Effect. Not Fallout 3 or 4 or 16. I don't care if Bethesda made the games, if I want to play Fallout, I'll buy the freakin game. I want Skyrim to be an Elder Scrolls game, like Oblivion and Morrowind.

I want the game to follow the already established lore. I want it to maintain the unique Elder Scrolls artistic look. I want it to improve gameplay elements, but not so radically that I feel like I'm playing an entirely different game. And I want an epic freakin' story!!!

Most importantly, I want Bethesda to keep the promise it made to me when it release the gameplay trailer. I want that experience. I think I'll get it.

What I don't want is: guns, vampire armor, Batman blades, 15 new minigames, a game so freakin heavy in data and scripts that I have to buy a supercomputer to play it, Bandits debating the subtler aspects of situation ethics, wolves I can ride, dragons I can romance, or companions I can . . . . let me just put it this way: if I see one freakin jerky avatar six scene I swear to God I'll scream.

There. Since you asked.

Rant over.

~ Dani ~ :)

Preach it sister! Hallelujah! Amen! Take me to the mountain!
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:12 am

You should heed your own advice.

Not really. Skyrim will/would be better if it had things in it that were taken out of Oblivion. Or things that might be taken out that were in Oblivion but not in Skyrim. we keep losing things and this will be a linear action game. That things that were in previous games are more important than some trivial new 'immersion' request. Next time, quote me in context, or not at all.

My second excerpt that you quoted is referring to people thinking its a FPS or something and buying it. Its also kind of directed to the devs. Peoples requests dont 'dumb down' the game. Only devs can do that, by trying to appeal to a wider audience, or people that dont even like RPGs.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:56 am

this will be a linear action game.

No.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:59 am

Ok.. watch this.. atleast his a critic that you might listen to: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/75-Oblivion

THERE IS A VAST SPACE FOR IMPROVEMENT!


You do realize those aren't reviews, nor do they really even qualify as rants on the stated subject of each episode- they're lampoons of the snobby "game journalists" who think playing videogames and writing web reviews of them somehow makes them respectable, professional...well...anythings.
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Post » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:51 pm

No.

If you keep losing things, then what would it be? Im talking about years from now. If ES just gets more and more simple over time.
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Post » Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:59 am

You do realize those aren't reviews, nor do they really even qualify as rants on the stated subject of each episode- they're lampoons of the snobby "game journalists" who think playing videogames and writing web reviews of them somehow makes them respectable, professional...well...anythings.

Exactly. Pretty shallow actually.
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