What race is the Dragonborn supposed to be in lore?

Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:03 pm

So Imperials are descended from Nords?
Yes.
Read the history sections here. They are short paragraphs summing up the main events.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Skyrim
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Cyrodiil
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Alexx Peace
 
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:21 pm

It just feels like a cheap workaround by Bethesda so you could play any race in skyrim.
Saint Allessia and the Reman emperors were supposed to be Dragonborn as well, but Talos weren't their decendant so how could he be one then?
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:44 am

There is one book that says Tiber Septim was born in High Rock, and there's another book that says "The secondary reason for the lethargy of High Rock had to do with the depth of relations between the province and the Septim Empire. For the first time since the beginning of the Dynasty, an Emperor ruled Tamriel who was neither Breton nor had spent any of his childhood in High Rock." And that dynasty all supposedly has dragon blood. And the first dragonborn was Alessia who was born in the Imperial province. So I don't think it has anything much to do with being a Nord.

What is more Nord is the thu'um because it is related to Kyne and the wind. But though the dragonborn can use thu'um, not everyone who uses thu'um is dragonborn. I think maybe this is where people get the idea you should be a Nord but I dunno.


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Arcturian_Heresy
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Fall_of_the_Usurper
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:15 am

A true dragonborn shoould be a Nord. Like in the official trailer.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:11 am

You're supposed to be a nord warrior and wear a mix of scale armor and iron armor just like the guy in the commercial ... duh.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:46 pm

I don't see a problem to be honest - Science says that every human race on earth is descended from a group of apes that came out of Africa. Just look at the difference in appearance between people coming from Europe, Asia and Africa, and the difference between Nords and Imperials doesn't seem that bad.

Alternatively, all the DNA evidence indicates that Fijians came from Taiwan.

1. I don't believe in all that evolution nonsense. :wink:

2. We're talking about TES, not earth, so I'm afraid I don't see your point.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:00 pm

Tiber Septim wiki

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Tiber_Septim
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:45 pm

Nords belong with Team Jacob. Imperials are better dragonborn! Look at those perfectly trimmed goatees!
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:40 pm

1. I don't believe in all that evolution nonsense. :wink:

2. We're talking about TES, not earth, so I'm afraid I don't see your point.

And the earth is like 6,000 years old too huh?
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:15 pm

What race was the person who closed all the gates of oblivion supposed to be?
What race was The Nerevarine?

Because they were all "just some prisoner" they could be anything.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:28 pm

TES Nirn is apparently 6000 years old :>
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:45 pm

Yes.
Read the history sections here. They are short paragraphs summing up the main events.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Skyrim
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Cyrodiil

Thanks, that's interesting.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:58 pm

Since the whole race of man on Tamriel is descendant from the Nords, who themselves came from Atmora. Everyone with human blood on Tamriel essentially has a Nord ancestry if you go back far enough.

Beyond that anyone can be a Dragonborn. It seems Akatosh can bestow that gift on any mortal he deems fit it.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:59 pm

The dragonborn can be any race, Tiber Septim was not related to Alessa (spelling) just like the current dragonborn our character is not related to the Septim line.

Being Dragonborn means you have the blood of a dragon, and that could have gone unnoticed for generations in your families line until now.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:33 pm

Since the whole race of man on Tamriel is descendant from the Nords, who themselves came from Atmora. Everyone with human blood on Tamriel essentially has a Nord ancestry if you go back far enough.

Beyond that anyone can be a Dragonborn. It seems Akatosh can bestow that gift on any mortal he deems fit it.
Nords came to Tamriel from Atmora, Redguards came from Yokuda.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:52 pm

While the dragon born should be a Nord there are ways and means to justify him being any race except for the beast races. The blessing of the Dragonborn is hereditary and men and mer can have children which will inherit the race of the mother. There is no evidence that the beast races can have offspring’s with men or mer , but it can be a recently acquired blessing not of ancient hereditary origins. What puts a few nails in the coffin of the beast races is that they are not supposed to be able to enter Skyrim cities and do so only so that their fans don’t cry a river.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:20 am

The dragonborn can be any race, Tiber Septim was not related to Alessa (spelling) just like the current dragonborn our character is not related to the Septim line.

Being Dragonborn means you have the blood of a dragon, and that could have gone unnoticed for generations in your families line until now.
As I stated earlier I don't think your family have abything to do with being dragonborn.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:16 pm

Since the whole race of man on Tamriel is descendant from the Nords, who themselves came from Atmora. Everyone with human blood on Tamriel essentially has a Nord ancestry if you go back far enough.

Beyond that anyone can be a Dragonborn. It seems Akatosh can bestow that gift on any mortal he deems fit it.
This does not include the Redguards though. The Redguards came from Yokuda, a sandy continent to the west of Tamriel.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Yokuda

The Nords were the first race of men to discover and settle on the continent of Tamriel. Redguards are a completely different race of men, seemingly unrelated to the Nords. To find out if they are distant cousins or not we would have to know alot more about what happened in the time between the creation of Nirn then man and mer and other races such as dragons and sload and how each race got to its original continent.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:21 am

While the dragon born should be a Nord there are ways and means to justify him being any race except for the beast races. The blessing of the Dragonborn is hereditary and men and mer can have children which will inherit the race of the mother. There is no evidence that the beast races can have offspring’s with men or mer , but it can be a recently acquired blessing not of ancient hereditary origins. What puts a few nails in the coffin of the beast races is that they are not supposed to be able to enter Skyrim cities and do so only so that their fans don’t cry a river.

Wait, wait, wait... really? The Book of the Dragonborn gives specific evidence that it is not hereditary and that it may not even be something you are born with, but a blessing you get at some point during your life.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:56 pm

1. I don't believe in all that evolution nonsense. :wink:

2. We're talking about TES, not earth, so I'm afraid I don't see your point.
Haha I had a very strong feeling you didn't :).

Well TES is made by people who live on Earth, so you can assume that some of the same rules apply. Culture and peoples change over time. Think about how different Americans and Canadians are from Europeans, e.g. French Canadians still speak French like it was in the 1800s, whereas the French speak a modern version of French. Likewise, think about how different New Yorkers are from Texans.

The Nords are the nordic peoples who scraqe a living in a very cold, harsh, dangerous and largely rural environment, whereas the Imperials live prosperously and comfortably in cities, surrounded by temperate environment. You would expect the two groups of people to be very different from each other, despite having the same ancestors.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:58 pm


As I stated earlier I don't think your family have abything to do with being dragonborn.
It's a possibility it could.

It could also be some divine blessing, I am just speculating.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:04 pm

It's a possibility it could.

It could also be some divine blessing, I am just speculating.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Book_of_the_Dragonborn
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:34 am

not everyone who uses thu'um is dragonborn.
Yeah like the greybeards and ulfric stormcloak
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:44 pm


but the septims have no living heirs so dovahkiin cant be a descendent of them
You don't actually know this. A septim might have spent a bit too much time with a lusty argonian maid...
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:53 pm

Haha I had a very strong feeling you didn't :smile:.

Well TES is made by people who live on Earth, so you can assume that some of the same rules apply. Culture and peoples change over time. Think about how different Americans and Canadians are from Europeans, e.g. French Canadians still speak French like it was in the 1800s, whereas the French speak a modern version of French. Likewise, think about how different New Yorkers are from Texans.

The Nords are the nordic peoples who scraqe a living in a very cold, harsh, dangerous and largely rural environment, whereas the Imperials live prosperously and comfortably in cities, surrounded by temperate environment. You would expect the two groups of people to be very different from each other, despite having the same ancestors.

Oh ok, I see what you mean.
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