"In Daggerfall, the one thing I remember was this cutscene for when you could have six with people you met. It eventually got axed and I still have the original art for it in a cabinet here. It was tastefully done of course."
--Todd Howard

Tbh i really dont care what the rating is as long as it doesnt have stupid leveling enemies!! But i do think they should aim for mature.

I want TES: V to have a M rating, in order, to not have the game developers' creativity restricted. Before I ramble on, lets look at what a game/movie has that deserves a M rating according to ESRB.

MATURE
Titles rated M (Mature) have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sixual content and/or strong language.

So thus It is not about nudity or sixual innuendos. It is about including as many features as one can related to blood, violence, combat, gore, clothing, strong verbatim, et cetera. These stuff are what makes games more realistic in which we might feel we dwell in it after playing 10 minutes or more! If one was to make a movie and focus on the rating first, it'd limit how one would write the script. This is anologous to creating TES: V. It is more about which audience the game should aim for rather than the rating. The rating of TES: V should be the same as the previous versions only with more content. Bethseda wants TES games to be taken seriously for the gameplay features, content, leveling, quests, et cetera. So thus children who are 16 and below might not really appreciate the game to the fullest as us advlts.

Dude you are so wrong it isn't even funny about the children 16 and under part. Im 14, and I LOVE MW, I don't care how old you are, that game is amazing... I prefer M games, because they are more realistic usually, and when you hit something with a sword, they bleed... Im not one of those emos, but I do like blood in games, when I cut something with a sword, I want it to bleed, when I play an RPG, I expect some dirty jokes, some stories about six (or [censored])(if anyone played Fallout 3, jericho and jenny stahl...) I don't want a kiddie game where when you hit something, happy bunnies come out and say, "No, thats not nice..." I want a real RPG...

That's good to know. I know there are some teenagers out there under 16 who would fully appreciate every aspect of the game but I just said what I said to reflect the attitude of most teenagers, you know.

Meh, most TES teenagers are very pro-M over T, we want the real game, not the sugar-coated one And by sugar, I mean moon-sugar

Mature, definatley, I want a realistic in depth world, which could probobally only happen with an M rating

I'm exactly sixteen. This technially makes me too young to be part of the Daggerfall fans who played the game when it first came out, but rather I inherited the disc from my dad's friend's son several years later, probably when I was about seven or eight (wasn't really big into the internet or games until 2004 or so).

The Elder Scrolls has a very wide demographic indeed. But the one thing all these people, young and old share, is the desire for a game with unrivalled depth and intrigue.

I agree with you. Also, its not just a game with unrivalled depth and intrigue that young and the old alike wants. It is simply a game that has EVERY ASPECT that a 5 star game (out of 5 stars) should have that occupies them for hours, days, months, and perhaps years. One does not want to buy a 30 bucks game and finish it in a matter of hours or 2 days as you can certainly get my drift about this issue.

I second that! Bethesda you guys hear that! We want M! Please dont water down the next game

Why does everyone equate mature with gratuitous gore? Mature to me means games with complexity and depth to questlines that aren't the cliche black & white good vs evil nonsense that plagues today's D&D CRPG's - where the good guys are pacifists and the bad guys are mass murderers. Oblivion came a little too close to that with some of its questlines. And yes, some of those shades of gray that make a game more interesting are lost on the younger crowd.

I want beth to make a realistic, deep, morally ambigous game with lots of choices.

Then the rating board can rate it whatever the [censored] they want.

i think its odd tht ppl seem to want to cut ppl up in completely disgusting ways rather than have some body showing. i would rather see cuts and tht sort of thing or blood stains stick around longer, but not heads flying everywhere. regarding nudity i would say just keep it the way it is. which as we all know just shows nothing even when you take all their stuff which is fine with me. none of this we need more realism and six b.s. because the speaker is a blood thirsty pervert who will eventually kill and [censored] some1. obviously thts to the extreme but thts wht it sounds like to me.

shouldn't aim for a rating, should just make the game then let it be rated
The best game of the series (IMO) was rated teen and was mature in its themes and the way it handled them even if it lacked the stuff that gets a game rated M
[censored], swearing and gore don't make a game mature

edit: never knew the t-word was censored

Why do I have the feeling you are under 18?

AO shouldn't even be on the list. If a game is AO then it can't even be on consoles.

I don't care, just whatever rating it takes to make a game with some depth.

AO=pormography...

I vote for M. Dragon Age is M and I think the gore is a bit overdone, but M allows you to deal with mature themes. Gore gets opened up a bit along with relationships. While I'm not looking for romance while playing an RPG game, I appreciate that for some folks, it adds to the experience. I'd like TES to get back to a bit more gritty world. MW was nice and O was flat out a kiss of sunshine. They need to get back to some darker/edgier stuff.

"M" Anything below that wouldn't be good.

I voted M, I just want them to make the game they want to make.
If the game turns out to get a T rating it's fine, as long as they didn't have to divert from their ideas of how the game is supposed to be in order to get the rating.

I would be happy with either T or M. I'm not terribly interested in the extra gore, nudity, and violence that would bump the game to an M rating (and the extra language doesn't really fit the setting), however I do think the extra freedom of the M rating is beneficial.

M, as I just love when ESRB says "Rated M for Mature!".

I want a mature game with mature themes. I don't want excessive violence, six and swearing forced down the player's throat, I just want the gritty, real kind of atmosphere that Daggerfall had, Morrowind hinted at, and Oblivion almost completely lacked. The kind of atmosphere that fantasy writers like George R. R. Martin or Joe Abercrombie evoke in their novels.

T like what I would rate the M rated FO3 though.

I've said this before, horribly flawed rating system.