What if Skyrim Bombs? : V - Skyrim

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:42 am

There is no way in hell Skyrim could possibly be worse than Oblivion, considering how Oblivion focused almost entirely on graphical upgrades. smoother combat, a physics engine, and a broken leveling system. All of which are being upgraded on Skyrim, and some. The varied environments are a plus, and the new leveling system is a radical difference, which is very risky. If that bombs, then it's still better than Oblivion.

Let's not forget the improved AI (including their interaction with te PC), voiceovers and a living world, which Oblivion improved over Morrowind (unless you hate voiceactors), which is also being improved in Skyrim. So it will definitely be better than Oblivion, and since the lack of these things is what really puts me off Morrowind, Skyrim will be more enjoyable for me than that also. They are also bringing back some things that I liked in Morrowind like an enchanting skill and handcrafted world, and with the possible exception of the lack of attributes (though I'll wait until I hear how they are dealing with replacing them before I make a definitive judgement) the character levelling and development system sounds much better as well.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:04 am

There is no way in hell Skyrim could possibly be worse than Oblivion, considering how Oblivion focused almost entirely on graphical upgrades. smoother combat, a physics engine, and a broken leveling system. All of which are being upgraded on Skyrim, and some. The varied environments are a plus, and the new leveling system is a radical difference, which is very risky. If that bombs, then it's still better than Oblivion. If they get it right, then we may very well have the greatest tes game of all time.
Another thing to consider is, of course, modifying the game to perfection. Oblivion has some absolutely incredible modifications from different creatures and armor to new cities altogether. There are too many to mention, but there is no reason why Skyrim can't be an amazing experience, regardless how well it's received on day one.

That's saying, of course, that their attempts to improve do not backfire or do not fall victim to other design decisions that take the game in a direction that is not good for the franchise.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:06 am

Even if they do people will be tripping over themselves to buy the damn game. It's got dragons that you can punch with your voice.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:22 pm

Mod, or go back to previous games if even that's not satisfactory.

Not going to happen though.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:24 am

I think that it's unlikely that Skyrim wil actually be "bad," in the loose, general meaning, bad in the sense that most people dislike it. What I do know, though, is that some people will be let down. There's almost no way at all around that. You can't satisfy everyone. I know that my expectations, while high to start with, dropped a little. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt here, I think that Bethesda will do a great, if not fantastic job with Skyrim.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:07 am

If all else fails put your faith in the modders.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:44 pm

I am expecting an Oblivion with minor changes so I doubt it will dissapoint me.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:10 pm

If all else fails put your faith in the modders.

Yeah, the modders can change anything about the game... just about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't people be able to mod for the Xbox 360 too?

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:39 am

I hardly ever post on these boards, but I had to come here and say...

When I saw this thread title I broke out laughing alone in my room. How's that for an answer?

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:03 pm

Gah! Wait for FO4 and TES6... but these better be good!

Nah! Skyrim will meet and even exeed my tremedously gigantic expectations.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:17 am

My response will be a mixture of surprise and dissappointment, perhaps I'll complain a bit on the forum, then I'll probably go off and play something else. Maybe in a few months, I'll come back to see if there are many mods to make Skyrim into the game it should have been, but until then, I'd probably play a game I DO enjoy. After all, why waste time on a game that isn't entertaining me? That's like eating food that doesn't satisfy your hunger.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:13 am

browse modding websites at least four hours a day

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:27 am

Go back to Daggerfall.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:33 am

Not gonna happen. I don't have ridiculously high expectations for Skyrim either. If however, I am to entertain the thought of it actually Bombing, I'll likely just wait for Fallout 4 to come out and play Oblivion, fallout 3, and New Vegas, until the next TES comes out.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:03 pm

Lol, it will all be ok if someone makes an attribute mod, and maybe removes radient quests. From what Im hearing from beth, its probably going to bomb though. They made it in 3 years, morroiwnd was made in 6 or something. Oblivion was made in 4, and look at the quality and diversity of the dungeons and landscapes. Unique landscapes and better cities came to the rescue thankfully. A year less though...likley to have 2 dungeon tilesets lol and one environment...snow. All hand placed they say, not hard when its just a few trees in snow. Comeon beth, make something special like azura's coast or AI. They were fantastic environments I could wander for hours and unique. And, ive played bloodmoon, so Ive seen the snow environment enough thanks.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:10 pm

It still amuses me how many Morrowind fans think Oblivion bombed.

:rolleyes:

I'm sure many will think the same about Skyrim, even if it's good.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:50 pm

Lol, it will all be ok if someone makes an attribute mod, and maybe removes radient quests. From what Im hearing from beth, its probably going to bomb though. They made it in 3 years, morroiwnd was made in 6 or something. Oblivion was made in 4, and look at the quality and diversity of the dungeons and landscapes. Unique landscapes and better cities came to the rescue thankfully. A year less though...likley to have 2 dungeon tilesets lol and one environment...snow. All hand placed they say, not hard when its just a few trees in snow. Comeon beth, make something special like azura's coast or AI. They were fantastic environments I could wander for hours and unique. And, ive played bloodmoon, so Ive seen the snow environment enough thanks.

Ha....ha....ha? Oh, your not kidding...

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:37 pm

and for the people even saying mw3 just get out now...

People have the right to play what they wantIt truly doesn't matte,,and effects nothing.

On topic: The game's is sounding good at this early stage,with time to fix and tweek things.

But even so,people will come on here and complain about it being dumbed down,This too is unlikely,given the nature of the game,people who steadfast stick to games such as GTA etc Wont rush to Skyrim (I'm in both camps).

My cousin for example,into mostly combat and racing games,won't play F.O or E.S as it he had no concept outside of a game being liner,and isn't into bows and blade or magic style combat.

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» Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:42 am

It'll most likely meet my expectations. But, then, my expectations aren't inflated to silly levels.

(My answer is a tie between "mod the heck out of it" and "go back to Oblivion")

This except that for me its mod the heck out of it, go back to Morrowind, and probably whine on the forums some.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:21 am

Mod the heck out of it
Go back to Morrowind for the rest of my life
Find A new series
Go back to Oblivion
Complain on the forums

All of these.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:07 am

Skyrim WILL exceed my expectations. :yes:

This is an impossibility.

I did not vote. I do not have 'faith' that Skyrim will turn out well, because faith in this context is something I have no interest in.
I have well-placed, supported belief that Bethesda will deliver a great product.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:15 am

Lol, it will all be ok if someone makes an attribute mod, and maybe removes radient quests. From what Im hearing from beth, its probably going to bomb though. They made it in 3 years, morroiwnd was made in 6 or something. Oblivion was made in 4, and look at the quality and diversity of the dungeons and landscapes. Unique landscapes and better cities came to the rescue thankfully. A year less though...likley to have 2 dungeon tilesets lol and one environment...snow. All hand placed they say, not hard when its just a few trees in snow. Comeon beth, make something special like azura's coast or AI. They were fantastic environments I could wander for hours and unique. And, ive played bloodmoon, so Ive seen the snow environment enough thanks.

You don't know anything about TES.

An attributes mod won't exactly be easy to make, if possible at all. You can't possibly remove Radiant Story. It is THE ENTIRE QUEST SYSTEM. Morrowind was made in 4 years, and while details haven't been disclosed, it's highly possible, since they have 100 people working on Skyrim, that they already had 40 working on it while the other 60 were working on Fallout. It has been said that there are 5 or 6 dungeon styles with a lot of variation therein and we have SEEN WITH OUR OWN EYES there is more than just snow, and the map tells us that there is at least 6 basic environment types, and I'm sure we can expect a lot of variation within that. Have you even seen the freaking trailer?

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:56 am

Gah! Wait for FO4 and TES6... but these better be good!

Nah! Skyrim will meet and even exeed my tremedously gigantic expectations.

If you expect Skyrim to exceed your expectations then those weren't your expectations, were they?

It is impossible to expect something to exceed what you expect.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:48 am

My expectations is "It can't possibly be worse than Oblivion".
So as long as it's 1 notch above Oblivion my expectation will have been met.
So, if it doesn't meet my expectations I will play it once then use the disc to scratch myself on the back at the hard to reach areas.

» Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:40 pm

My expectations is "It can't possibly be worse than Oblivion".
So as long as it's 1 notch above Oblivion my expectation will have been met.
So, if it doesn't meet my expectations I will play it once then use the disc to scratch myself on the back at the hard to reach areas.

No, you stated that it WILL exceed your expectations, which are you expectations, so it cannot exceed them.