What a terrible person. : Othor Games

» Fri May 21, 2010 8:05 am

When has irony been fitting for punishment?

Always, it creates empathy then they will truely regret thier actions.
@Wingus hahaha I find that funny, fraud usually gets worse than other crimes. Which is pathetic.

» Fri May 21, 2010 2:29 pm

You apparently don't get what I'm saying.
Of coarse the charge is just fraud. I'm saying, what she did is morally wrong, and more than just "fraud". I couldn't give a damn less what the governments definition of it is.

No, I get what you're saying. You want a disproportional punishment that does not fit the crime, all because your definition of "fraud" doesn't coincide with that of lawmakers.

This isn't really that big of a case. I admit, it's kinda messed up, but nothing all that serious. Now, if she had scammed a few million, or more, like what's his face, then I might be taking a different side.

» Fri May 21, 2010 4:34 pm

i dislike how such actions are pawned off as a mental disorder when a proper brain anolysis is never done :thumbsdown:

No, I get what you're saying.

you still dont get what hes saying

» Fri May 21, 2010 8:02 pm

No, I get what you're saying. You want a disproportional punishment that does not fit the crime, all because your definition of "fraud" doesn't coincide with that of lawmakers.

This isn't really that big of a case. I admit, it's kinda messed up, but nothing all that serious. Now, if she had scammed a few million, or more, like what's his face, then I might be taking a different side.

Lol, what? You think emotionally taking advantage of people isn't "that big of a deal"?
I'll pretty much leave it at that before my remarks towards you get me banned.

» Fri May 21, 2010 5:38 am

What crime is honorable?

I didn't mean that some crimes are honorable, but some are worse, ethically speaking. I apologize if I don't express myself clearly.

» Fri May 21, 2010 12:23 pm

Lol, what? You think emotionally taking advantage of people isn't "that big of a deal"?
I'll pretty much leave it at that before my remarks towards you get me banned.

:thumbsup:

coward.

» Fri May 21, 2010 9:04 pm

i dislike how such actions are pawned off as a mental disorder when a proper brain anolysis is never done :thumbsdown:

True, but it is the most likely culprit. And even if it isn't her lawyer will say it is.

Always, it creates empathy then they will truely regret thier actions.

If this person is found to be mentally unstable, then could they really regret something that they know in their own mind to be the correct path just because of punishment?

No, I get what you're saying. You want a disproportional punishment that does not fit the crime, all because your definition of "fraud" doesn't coincide with that of lawmakers.

This isn't really that big of a case. I admit, it's kinda messed up, but nothing all that serious. Now, if she had scammed a few million, or more, like what's his face, then I might be taking a different side.

Its funny when its how much money was stolen vs. how the fraud was committed that determines the punishment. Proving once again that morals can be bought.

» Fri May 21, 2010 8:44 pm

What crime is honorable?

... Murdering your local drug dealer.
Besides he means there are honest ways to make a living, lots of people are poor, they however rise above [censored] like this.

@Wyatt yes, people think things are right/wrong all the time and punished for it, it keeps them from doing it again.

» Fri May 21, 2010 8:46 am

I didn't mean that some crimes are honorable, but some are worse, ethically speaking. I apologize if I don't express myself clearly.

... Murdering your local drug dealer.
Besides he means there are honest ways to make a living, lots of people are poor, they however rise above [censored] like this.

I know what he meant, I was just playing with his phrasing.

Murdering is ok as long as you believe the guy to be "bad"? You know nothing about that guy other than that fact that he sells drugs. And that is enough for you to kill him? Interesting.....

» Fri May 21, 2010 7:35 am

fleb

» Fri May 21, 2010 2:36 pm

She also has a mental disorder, which makes the case a little more understandable. I don't deny she has done wrong, and she deserves a sentence, but her getting cancer is a little disproportional.

Its assumed she has a mental disorder. And if she does than the best thing to do would be to toss her into a mental hospital. Its the attention she wants and she can't commit anymore crimes. win-win.

» Fri May 21, 2010 6:48 pm

I know what he meant, I was just playing with his phrasing.

Murdering is ok as long as you believe the guy to be "bad"? You know nothing about that guy other than that fact that he sells drugs. And that is enough for you to kill him? Interesting.....

Letting him live would ruin more lives, the addicts, tha family and friends of the addicts, and he makes money of thier suffering, he should be removed from society, letting him continue to ruin lives would be wrong "all it takes for evil to succed, is for good men to do nothing."

» Fri May 21, 2010 5:39 pm

Its assumed she has a mental disorder. And if she does than the best thing to do would be to toss her into a mental hospital. Its the attention she wants and she can't commit anymore crimes. win-win.

Unless she starts scamming the patients....

"all it takes for evil to succed, is for good men to do nothing."

"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed."

The drug dealer isn't shedding anyones blood, so he doesn't deserve death. Now, if he's going all mobster, and killing people with his own two hands, that's another story.

» Fri May 21, 2010 4:51 pm

Letting him live would ruin more lives, the addicts, tha family and friends of the addicts, and he makes money of thier suffering, he should be removed from society, letting him continue to ruin lives would be wrong "all it takes for evil to succed, is for good men to do nothing."

They will be getting supplied if he is there or not. Many legit businesses make money off of other peoples suffering, just because he doesn't have the blessing of the government doesn't make him any more evil than your local pharmaceutical company. Im surprised to hear you say the punishment for dealing should be death.

Unless she starts scamming the patients....

win-win-win?

» Fri May 21, 2010 1:49 pm

Unless she starts scamming the patients....

"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed."

The drug dealer isn't shedding anyones blood, so he doesn't deserve death. Now, if he's going all mobster, and killing people with his own two hands, that's another story.

Depends how you see it, not directly, but supplying the drugs that kill them, or maybe its something thats not even drugs at all thats being injected/snorted.

» Fri May 21, 2010 2:15 pm

win-win-win?

I think we may have created a snarl....

Depends how you see it, not directly, but supplying the drugs that kill them, or maybe its something thats not even drugs at all thats being injected/snorted.

Then that is the addict's own fault for being that way. People need to own up to their own actions, rather than blaming someone else. It's like the fat people sueing McDonalds!

It's like this girl, right? What she did was wrong. But it's certainly not topping my list of worst crimes ever. That's why she needs to get taken to court, found guilty of fraud, and then either serve her jail time, or get treated in a mental insitution

» Fri May 21, 2010 3:35 pm

I think we may have created a snarl....

so. win-win-win-tie?

» Fri May 21, 2010 6:50 am

... Murdering your local drug dealer.

Whoa, whoa, wait.
You're saying I should go out and shoot my pharmacist?
That'll teach him to withhold my lozenges! :0

» Fri May 21, 2010 6:47 pm

:thumbsup:

coward.

Lol, coward eh? Obeying forum rules so I don't get banned makes me a coward?
Color me coward, then. :goodjob:

» Fri May 21, 2010 7:07 am

Whoa, whoa, wait.
You're saying I should go out and shoot my pharmacist?
That'll teach him to withhold my lozenges! :0

Hahaha.

@Verlox nice, love how you were on about people being snappy then posting that...

» Fri May 21, 2010 7:15 pm

Lol, coward eh? Obeying forum rules so I don't get banned makes me a coward?
Color me coward, then. :goodjob:

So what is that, smiley face yellow?

» Fri May 21, 2010 10:54 am

Lol, coward eh? Obeying forum rules so I don't get banned makes me a coward?
Color me coward, then. :goodjob:

No, but the least you can do is send me a threatening PM! Dangit, I'm bored!

» Fri May 21, 2010 12:50 pm

No, but the least you can do is send me a threatening PM! Dangit, I'm bored!

Nah, sorry bro. I'm all out of bait at the moment, can't feed the trolls tonight.

» Fri May 21, 2010 2:04 pm

Nah, sorry bro. I'm all out of bait at the moment, can't feed the trolls tonight.

Dammit! But I'm hungry!

» Fri May 21, 2010 12:02 pm

Depends how you see it, not directly, but supplying the drugs that kill them, or maybe its something thats not even drugs at all thats being injected/snorted.

Not directly, no, but most of the people that a violent drug dealer murders probably don't seek out said drug dealer of their own free will and pay for the bullets/knives/etc that end their lives. Addiction is difficult to overcome, but not impossible. Not to mention these people weren't always addicts. They dug their own graves when they tried the substance the first time. Removing a drug dealer from society won't save/improve anyone's life.

Edit- I'll exit this conversation simply because I type too slow.