What is the current state of Better Clothes here in 2015?

Post » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:23 pm

Greetings! After a much-too-long drought with no Morrowind, I finally have a new machine and I am once again reassembling my favorite RPG of all time! :D

I have been slowly adding in one mod after another, taking time to try getting things "right" the first time so I don't have to go back and make too many changes later. When I got to Better Clothes (BC) and it's various expansions/addons, I realized that most of what I'm using is getting pretty dated. Then, as I was installing the plugins for each BC mod, I began to wonder what exactly the plugins do. True replacers generally shouldn't need ESPs, so I figured BC's plugins must be doing something more than just "replacing"... but I confess I didn't know what that something was.

Another mod I am using is Raym's awesome http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1513068-rel-rayms-absolutely-aleatory-accoutrements-30-addons/ (AAA), and I asked a few BC-related questions over in that thread. AAA really is fantastic, by the way, and I highly recommend checking it out if you haven't already. But back to the point, my inquiries were beginning to take up too much of AAA's thread, and so I decided maybe it was time to just start a new topic. And so here we are! :smile:

Some questions I'd like to find answers for:

1. Which mods are needed to make the BC collection complete?
Here's what I currently have (Thanks all, for helping me get this much!):

  1. Better Clothes v1.1 by Psychodog Studios:
    • http://mw.modhistory.com/download-21-14097
    • http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42262/ (I recommend the non installer version if you download from here)
    • Fixes for Better Clothes by Greatness7:
      1. http://www.dropbox.com/s/3kwi2ha2anpu7kw/BCFix.zip
      2. http://www.dropbox.com/s/usgjr6hwi53c6ma/BC%20Shoes%20Fix.zip (The shoes fix gets rid of those foot part errors in warnings.txt!)
    • Fix for Better Clothes by LizTail:
      1. http://mw.modhistory.com/download--14998
  2. More Better Clothes Vol. I: Vanilla v1.01 by Plangkye:
    • http://mw.modhistory.com/download-53-6647
    • http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/36406/
    • There is a fix for two shirt meshes. Scroll down to the bottom of the More Better Clothes MMH download page and grab MBC_ArmsFix.rar.
  3. Better Clothes for Tribunal by Keazen:
    • http://mw.modhistory.com/download-87-11804
  4. Better Clothes for Bloodmoon Plus v1.5 by Spirited Treasure:
    • http://download.fliggerty.com/download-21-804 ***Be sure to scroll to the bottom of the page to get the 1.5 version!***
    • Fix for BC for Bloodmoon Plus by Greatness7: http://www.dropbox.com/s/lkxditr9gl3a92c/BCBM_Pants_Fix.zip
  5. [optional] Darknut's Better Clothes Textures v1.0:
    • http://mw.modhistory.com/download-10-13347
    • http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43423/

There is also the Patch for Better Clothes by Keazen, but apparently that one creates more problems than it solves. Greatness7's shoes fix (above) does the same thing without any adverse effects, and it's pluginless which is always a plus! :goodjob:

There are also many robe mods and replacers out there. While it's true that they aren't really part of the BC collection per se, they are clothing mods and it does make some sense to address some of them here. I'm currently re-working this post and it may take me a while to get it all right, but there is going to be a section here for robes. I just haven't decided exactly how I'm going to work them in yet. For now though, check out some of the mods some of this threads contributors have mentioned in their posts. There's some great stuff in there!

And finally, to anyone out there with some BC expertise, is my Better Clothes list complete yet? If not, what else is needed to make BC as complete as possible?

2. What about robes?

Well, it wasn't long after starting this thread that I realized I had overlooked something: ROBES! Thanks to everyone for reminding me of them. Robe replacers, overhauls, and additions have always seemed a little different to me for two reasons: 1) They only deal with one of the articles of clothing found in Better Clothes (BC), and 2) it always seemed to me that the robe mods added more new content than the other BC components. The second point is certainly debatable, but the first isn't; robe mods typically only have robes in them, and not pants, shirts, skirts, shoes, and belts. Nevertheless, this thread was created not just for my own benefit, but also for other users... especially new ones. A new user coming to this thread would probably expect to see something about robes, and I wouldn't want to disappoint them. So, I have decided to add this section in here just for robes. I've already gotten some great suggestions to go along with the mods I am already familiar with, and I will add them below. I appreciate any help I can get, but I do have one thing to ask: let's try to keep the list limited to mods that update or replace those in the vanilla game and/or those found in BC. After all, this thread is about BC, and so I think it's best to keep the scope limited to that particular family of mods. I may actually add something that adds all new robes, but if I do I want to be able to let people know that any such mods are not BC-related. So if you have robe suggestions, bring them on! All I ask is that you tell me a little bit about the mods, specifically whether or not they replace vanilla and/or BC robes. Thanks in advance!

Here are the robe mods I have so far:

  1. The one I first became familiar with, Ice's Customizable Robe Replacer by CanadianIce & Howndog
    • http://canadianice.moddersrealm.com/RobeReplacer.html - This download site has previews of the robes and provides for swapping robes between packages (free registration required)
    • http://www.wolflore.net/uploads/keening/modlibrary/%5BCANADIAN%20ICE%5D%20Robe%20Replacer/ - This download site seems to provide Hurdy Gurdy files for Mac OS, but I can't verify that (I live in an Apple-free household!)
  2. Better Robes 0.3.1 by Moranar (requires Better Bodies 2.2 or later)
    • http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42773/
    • http://www.wolflore.net/viewtopic.php?t=1864
  3. Robe Overhaul by Remiros
    • Robe Overhaul Basic Version 1.0: self-contained and requires no other mods
    • Robe Overhaul 1.3: requires Better Robes 0.3.1 by Moranar and conflicts with Ice's Customizable Robe Replacer
    • http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43748
    • Thanks to JH2011 for the details! (see his http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1537520-what-is-the-current-state-of-better-clothes-here-in-2015/#entry24346798 below)
    • [optional] Blank Glow Maps for Robe Overhaul: one of borok's http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43795
  4. Armored Robes by Aoimevelho
    • http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43175
    • More armored robes by Aoimevelho:
      • Indoril Armored Robe: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42935, http://download.fliggerty.com/download--971
      • Mabrigash Armored Robes: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43164, http://download.fliggerty.com/download--1048
      • Dreamers Expansion (contains 6th House armored robe which can be used as resource): http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42990
    • Also check out Aoimevelho's Dunmer Nobles Overhaul
      • Adds 30 in-game exquisite robes (based on Moranar's mesh)
      • Overhauls nobles with the new robes and new, playable hairstyles
      • Available as a full noble overhaul, or as pluginless modders resources
      • http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43835
  5. Jdooby's Robes by Jdooby
    • http://mw.modhistory.com/download-80-10721
    • http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/6038
    • Be sure to get Jdooby's fix which updates the ESP to version 1.1:
      • MMH: The fix is a separate download at the bottom of the page (RobeCollection_FIX.zip)
      • Nexus: The fix is available http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/6043
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