What's the deal with Almalexia?

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:07 am

Perhaps I'm missing a large piece of the puzzle... but why does Almalexia want to kill me?

I mean, she believes I am the Nerevarine and basically her husband... and yet she wants to kill me after I find Sotha Sil's body?

I am rather quite confused about this.. because if she's powerhungry how much more power could she possibly obtain? She's already a god, and how exactly would killing me help her gain more power?

I don't understand someone please enlighten me
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Logan Greenwood
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:39 pm

If I am not mistaken I think it is because she views you as threat to her,your truth reflects her lie kinda stuff.However she is power hungry just look how she was willing to spread the blight because she thought people were questioning her authority.Plus her killing of Sil,who in my judgment was a descent guy.He just wanted to be left alone.She was evil to the core in the worst sense it is kinda like the Redoran,and their craziness justified by the word honor.When dealing with the goddess,I always noticed this similiar philosophy.Anyway this is my personal view,as I am sure others will have different views.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:46 am

She apparently wants a hero for her people, and you, a loyal and useful person, would be more of a hero if you were to become a martyr, that is to be killed. This is mentioned in her speech before she attacks you; Almalexia probably went insane some point before the main quest.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:24 am

Plus her killing of Sil,who in my judgment was a descent guy.



Right.


This topic needs a move to the Lore Forum. Anyway, the Nerevarine was becoming quite an important figure in Morrowind, with quite some power and to make things even worse, he/she was supposed to kill the Tribunal. Important Figure + Certain Death = KILL IT, KILL IT!!! Almalexia would gain a lot of support and loyalty if the Nerevarine died serving her. And she was insane. She wanted to rule Morrowind alone, and eventually she would probably want Morrowind for her alone, trying to kill everything and everyone.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:52 pm

Also, don?t forget that during the morrowind main quest you destroy the tribunals source of power. That is quite a motive for murder
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:27 pm

She has gone mad. It's Azura's fault actually.

There is no purpose in madness. What happens in madness happens because it does, basically.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:43 am

If I am not mistaken I think it is because she views you as threat to her,your truth reflects her lie kinda stuff.However she is power hungry just look how she was willing to spread the blight because she thought people were questioning her authority.Plus her killing of Sil,who in my judgment was a descent guy.He just wanted to be left alone.She was evil to the core in the worst sense it is kinda like the Redoran,and their craziness justified by the word honor.When dealing with the goddess,I always noticed this similiar philosophy.Anyway this is my personal view,as I am sure others will have different views.


I hate to nit pick but, during the Tribunal MQ Almalexia has us create ash storms not the blight. In the MW MQ the blight was carried on the ash storms. However you could still come across an ash storm and not be in a blight storm. Even after finishing the MW MQ you will still encounter ash storms caused by the volcano(Red Mountain). Normally ash storms were brown/grey while blight storms were red.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:39 am

Almalexia was floundering at the end, whether she realized it or not. Like Vivec, she was losing the power she had gotten from the Heart; but whereas Vivec accepted this, it drove Almalexia insane that the work of millennia was slipping through her fingers.

The Tribunal we see in "Morrowind" and its expansions was a shadow of what they had begun as. Sometimes I think when they achieved apotheosis long ago, they were big-hearted adventurers who truly wanted to help the Dunmer.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:23 pm

I don't like it when people simply state "Almalexia was going mad". Surely, she had lost a sense of perspective and her objectives and methods were all but admirable, but it was quite obvious that she was still compos mentis. Saying that she was acting purely upon some insane impulse would be ignoring her cunning and machiavellic plans to permanently establish herself in the hearts of the Dunmer.

Almalexia murdered Sotha Sil and subsequently portrayed him as a genuine threat to Morrowind (remember the Fabricant attack, which she staged) . Her plan was to have the Nerevarine valiantly travel into the heart of Sotha Sil's workshop, only to find death at the hands of the "mad" Seht, which would have made him into Almalexia's most iconic martyr. Almalexia would then take the burden to kill Seht upon herself and supposedly end his threat, profiling herself as the great protector of her people.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:52 pm

I don't like it when people simply state "Almalexia was going mad". Surely, she had lost a sense of perspective and her objectives and methods were all but admirable, but it was quite obvious that she was still compos mentis. Saying that she was acting purely upon some insane impulse would be ignoring her cunning and machiavellic plans to permanently establish herself in the hearts of the Dunmer.
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You're right that she wasn't out of touch with reality. It seems deluded, though, to think she could resume her power when the Heart had been lost. It was the end of an era for the Tribunal no matter what schemes Almalexia tried.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:37 pm

Insane in the membrane!!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:34 am

I don't like it when people simply state "Almalexia was going mad". Surely, she had lost a sense of perspective and her objectives and methods were all but admirable, but it was quite obvious that she was still compos mentis. Saying that she was acting purely upon some insane impulse would be ignoring her cunning and machiavellic plans to permanently establish herself in the hearts of the Dunmer.

Almalexia murdered Sotha Sil and subsequently portrayed him as a genuine threat to Morrowind (remember the Fabricant attack, which she staged) . Her plan was to have the Nerevarine valiantly travel into the heart of Sotha Sil's workshop, only to find death at the hands of the "mad" Seht, which would have made him into Almalexia's most iconic martyr. Almalexia would then take the burden to kill Seht upon herself and supposedly end his threat, profiling herself as the great protector of her people.

Brilliance and Madness tent to coincide :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:36 pm

You're right that she wasn't out of touch with reality. It seems deluded, though, to think she could resume her power when the Heart had been lost. It was the end of an era for the Tribunal no matter what schemes Almalexia tried.

Well, perhaps it was not the loss of her I-can-fry-your-Dunmer-[censored] kind of power, but rather her position as Mother of Morrowind, loving protector of her people.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:15 am

1. Almalexia always took her divinity more seriously than the other Triunes. (The words of Vivec to the Nerevarine)

2. The three Triunes were actually one entity called "ALMSIVI" to their people. (See e.g., http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#31)

3. "ALMSIVI" would still be in existence if Vivec and Sotha Sil were killed, simply manifesting only in the form of Almalexia.

4. The whole worship of ALMSIVI would be directed at Almalexia instead of split into three.

5. The faith of the people makes ALMSIVI strong. (See the words of Vivec to the Nerevarine concerning why he persecuted the Dissident Priests.)

6. The Nerevarine was supposed to destroy the "false gods". (See e.g., http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/nerevarinecult.shtml)

7. If the Nerevarine died after slaying Dagoth Ur and Almalexia slew Vivec and Sotha Sil, then Almalexia could easily say that all the "false gods" were destroyed, leaving only the one, true god....namely Almalexia.

8. With the validation of #7, even the Ashlanders could possibly start to worship her, thereby increasing her power even more.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:53 am

Interesting comments everyone. I suppose I can't quite understand why she'd view me more valuable as a martyr rather than trying to "convert" me to her side, way of thinking etc.

Surely I could better serve her designs if I was alive and standing by her side, not to mention that since the majority of people would view me as the Nerevarine and pretty much follow my example, so if I stood with Almalexia surely they would too.

Well I guess she could view that as people "worshipping" me more than her and in turn depriving her of power. That makes sense I suppose.

I dunno I just get kinda miffed sometimes because even though I'm RPing and I know it's a game I get annoyed by all these powerful beings seemingly wanting me dead for really no rhyme or reason, I mean I end up helping the guy who sends assassins after me and he calls it a misunderstanding when anyone in their right mind would either kill the guy on the spot or say to hell with him.

And then to top it off my former wife turns on me. This whole Nerevarine stuff is starting to be more trouble than it's worth I think.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:01 pm

...I get annoyed by all these powerful beings seemingly wanting me dead for really no rhyme or reason, I mean I end up helping the guy who sends assassins after me and he calls it a misunderstanding when anyone in their right mind would either kill the guy on the spot or say to hell with him.

And then to top it off my former wife turns on me. This whole Nerevarine stuff is starting to be more trouble than it's worth I think.


Your fate and trials were sealed in prophecy long ago, Nerevar Reborn.

"His aspect marks his certain fate. Wicked stalk him, righteous curse him. Prophets speak, but all deny. Many trials make manifest The stranger's fate, ..." (http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/stranger.shtml)

So condoned by Julianos, the god of prophecy,

___The Word Merchant of Julianos
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Cesar Gomez
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:28 am

How about the simple answer?
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:18 am

How about the simple answer?
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely!


That's far too simple a way to view things. svcks all the fun out of... everything!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:40 am

What about the God of Purity and Absolute power?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:50 am

Almalexia had been changing for some time. Salas Valor noticed the change, which is why he left. She wanted to be the only living deity in Morrowind and only object of worship. Thats why she killed Sotha Sil, tried to kill the Nerevarine, and planned on killing Vivec (All of whom she had a relationship with, but I think that's just a coincidence).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:15 pm

Almalexia had been changing for some time. Salas Valor noticed the change, which is why he left. She wanted to be the only living deity in Morrowind and only object of worship. Thats why she killed Sotha Sil, tried to kill the Nerevarine, and planned on killing Vivec (All of whom she had a relationship with, but I think that's just a coincidence).


It is a coincidence, but not a far-fetched one. Almalexia was even more promiscius than Barenziah. The Hands, for example.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:22 am

I dunno I just get kinda miffed sometimes because even though I'm RPing and I know it's a game I get annoyed by all these powerful beings seemingly wanting me dead for really no rhyme or reason, I mean I end up helping the guy who sends assassins after me and he calls it a misunderstanding when anyone in their right mind would either kill the guy on the spot or say to hell with him.


You could say Helseth was being a typical monarch. At first, he had to assume the Nerevarine was an imposter (and dangerously powerful), so he sent the DB to kill him. Then he starts thinking the Nerevarine could be the real article, so he tests him once more with assassins, his mother Barenziah never really being in danger. The Nerevarine passes the test by killing the assassins, so Helseth co-opts him into helping bring down his (unpredictable) rival Almalexia.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:41 am

You could say Helseth was being a typical monarch. At first, he had to assume the Nerevarine was an imposter (and dangerously powerful), so he sent the DB to kill him. Then he starts thinking the Nerevarine could be the real article, so he tests him once more with assassins, his mother Barenziah never really being in danger. The Nerevarine passes the test by killing the assassins, so Helseth co-opts him into helping bring down his (unpredictable) rival Almalexia.


Have you ever let the assassins through? Barenziah is extremely strong. She was in much less danger than you were. What level is she? Same as Davyth I think.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:34 pm

Have you ever let the assassins through? Barenziah is extremely strong. She was in much less danger than you were. What level is she? Same as Davyth I think.

Barenziah has a unique spell that will make her a particularly hard kill should you be so inclined. It does Fire Damage 50pts in 25ft for 30sec on Target, and costs her no Magicka at all to cast. Even when Silenced, she still has a Cast on Use enchantment on her Daedric Dagger which does Damage Health 50pts on Target. (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal:Barenziah).

Barenziah is listed as a level 70 "Queen Mother". Divayth Fyr is listed as a level 65 "Sorceror". (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Divayth_Fyr) I would assume it is harder to gain levels as a sorceror than queen mother.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:33 pm

Barenziah has a unique spell that will make her a particularly hard kill should you be so inclined. It does Fire Damage 50pts in 25ft for 30sec on Target, and costs her no Magicka at all to cast. Even when Silenced, she still has a Cast on Use enchantment on her Daedric Dagger which does Damage Health 50pts on Target. (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal:Barenziah).

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Exactly, she is extremely strong. Point is of course, that she never was in any danger. The assassins were probably much more dangerous to you than her. Helseth really wasn't taking that big of risk.
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