What is The Dragon Break?

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:50 pm

Could someone summarize it please?
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jadie kell
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:34 pm

Summarized: Time [censored]s up for a bit.

Not summarized: http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/astionarticle1.shtml
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:45 am

Depending on the context a Dragon Break is either:

A period of non-linear time in Tamriel, which is presumably caused by presence of multiple young gods, each of which controls time.

The name refers to the breaking of the Dragon, Akatosh, the God of Time.

There are four Dragon Brokes, The Original Dragon Broke caused by the Selective, the Dragon Broke caused by the apotheosis of the Tribunal, the Broke at Rimmen and the Warp in the West.
The Dawn era is another period of time in which time is non-linear but as this was the starting condition of Mundus, it started broken and as such it makes no sense to say the Dragon Broke.

Or:

An explanation of what happens when history puts together all the different actions of a player character. A good example would be the merging of all possible outcomes of Daggerfall becoming an event in which all outcomes came true called the Warp of the West.

Or:

A clever description to wisk away a 1008 year gap of time in the first Era.

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Katey Meyer
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:43 pm

Thanks to both of you. Just what I needed :)
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Sam Parker
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:06 pm

Why is Akatosh is still able to to fly around shooting fireballs at Daedric Princes and sealing Liminal Barriers if he's been broken at least four times?

I thought Aedra were breakable, as in, non-repairable, like Lorkhan.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:12 am

Why is Akatosh is still able to to fly around shooting fireballs at Daedric Princes and sealing Liminal Barriers if he's been broken at least four times?

I thought Aedra were breakable, as in, non-repairable, like Lorkhan.


Because it's a figure of speech. Akatosh isn't broken but rather local time comes under control of a god and they're not very good at controlling it. The young ones atleast.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:41 am

Because it's a figure of speech. Akatosh isn't broken but rather local time comes under control of a god and they're not very good at controlling it. The young ones atleast.


Can't be healthy for Akatosh to keep losing control of his own metaphysical property though, can it?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:11 pm

Can't be healthy for Akatosh to keep losing control of his own metaphysical property though, can it?

It's cool, the shrinks in Aetherius are just magical at what they do.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:41 am

He's got a whole harem of jills to mend his body back in shape.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:09 pm

It's cool, the shrinks in Aetherius are just magical at what they do.



Too bad all the accounts we have of his sanity state that he is stark-raving mad, even when he is in a "Good" way.....
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:55 am

Can't be healthy for Akatosh to keep losing control of his own metaphysical property though, can it?


Nah. Like the Daedra embody their spheres, Akatosh embodies time, but he isn't time itself. In most myth this can be seen by the way he is the first to find away to do things in the proper order and thus life forever, and then being followed by others, or where he 'bleeds' through the Aurbis.

Talks with Pelinal suggest that time is an illusion (Dyus confirms this) and that all events have happened, the only thing that matters is how you order them. This somewhat coincides with the notion from the Aldudaga* that with the creation of Nirn circular time has come to an end and will run on forever as the creation of Nirn allows for new events to be created through the player.

As such the concept of time is more a trick to order the events then an actual thing. You might instead of Akatosh as the god of rhythm and beat.

*Also the notion of repetitive mutual destruction of the et'Ada and Lorkhans finding this rather boring from other myths.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:57 pm

Too bad all the accounts we have of his sanity state that he is stark-raving mad, even when he is in a "Good" way.....

Whenever him and Sheogorath meet up, Sheo rides around on his back like he's Falcor from The Neverending Story.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:14 am

Whenever him and Sheogorath meet up, Sheo rides around on his back like he's Falcor from The Neverending Story.



Except that Akatosh is scaley, mean, and bullheaded---- and Falcor is soft and fuzzy, and somewhat likeable. :P


Akatosh: "Time flows THIS way damnit! OBEY!"

Others: "Why? Why cant it be this way?"

Akatosh: "BECAUSE I SAID SO!"
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:25 pm

If anyone cared to remember my time hypothesis, a Dragon Break would be like taking an object of gigantic symbolic and mythic magnitude and damming up the time stream so the waters of time can't pass forcing events that could, have, and might have happened to collect at the same spacial point, creating the illusion of a time disturbance.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:28 pm

They couldn't afford a real dragon, so they got a generic one. You know, the kind that comes from the Dollar General store. The only problem is that generic replicas made in Taiwan tend to break easily, so... yeah. That's what happened.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:02 pm

Why is Akatosh is still able to to fly around shooting fireballs at Daedric Princes and sealing Liminal Barriers if he's been broken at least four times?

I thought Aedra were breakable, as in, non-repairable, like Lorkhan.

First I find that Lorkhan's dead, now he is non-repairable???? He didn't help with Mundus, and his heart is still out there! Which developer decided his fate?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:47 am

First I find that Lorkhan's dead, now he is non-repairable???? He didn't help with Mundus, and his heart is still out there! Which developer decided his fate?


He's not dead and he is repairable.

He is not dead, as Pelinal's existence demonstrates.

He is presumably repairable if all the parts where brought together. The only problem is that most of those parts are important for Nirn's continued existence, and without them Nirn would be destroyed. Hence why MK is raving about the Apocalypse following Shezarr's revival.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:39 pm

He's not dead and he is repairable.

He is not dead, as Pelinal's existence demonstrates.

He is presumably repairable if all the parts where brought together. The only problem is that most of those parts are important for Nirn's continued existence, and without them Nirn would be destroyed. Hence why MK is raving about the Apocalypse following Shezarr's revival.


Personally, I'm just wondering what parts he's still missing.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:40 pm

His heart is still in Red Mountain, unless that got changed from some lore piece I am not aware of.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:26 am

His heart is still in Red Mountain, unless that got changed from some lore piece I am not aware of.


Heh, it seems like there's a BIG piece your missing... like the Morrowind ending???
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:38 pm

Heh, it seems like there's a BIG piece your missing... like the Morrowind ending???

All I really remember about it, is that you smack and stab it a few times, Dagoth Ur falls down into the boiling hot lava like any classical villan, and I think the heart along with him, and the new doombot is destroyed. Still, Lork doesn't have his heart yet, so it is technically still missing from him.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:13 am

The Heart disappears. It doesn't "die" or anything like that. If Lorkhan didn't get his heart "back" when you hit it, then it's safe to say he's able to get it back at this point.

Either way, he's GONNA get it.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:50 pm

His heart is still in Red Mountain, unless that got changed from some lore piece I am not aware of.


I believe it's said somewhere that the heart was banished back to the waters of Oblivion. I'm not sure where that came from. Maybe somebody on here just said it and I'm not remembering it.

Anyway, I believe there's a connection between Jyg and Lorkhan. Like maybe Jyg is one of his pieces. Jyg is wondering the waters of Oblivion now. So...

If all Lorkhan's parts were to end up in Oblivion, it's only a matter of time before they reassemble.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:49 pm

Again, that is why I put on my post I said "unless that got changed from some lore piece I am not aware of." I'm just going off of what happened in MW, and all we really know is that the heart could still just be sitting in the volcano
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:07 am

Could...could this be Lorkhans "Jyggalag" that's doing this, i.e. Lorkhan CREATED the world, so could his "other half" want to DESTROY it??

If we consider that Lorkhan is a Padomaic mostly, if not completely, then it's plausible that his murder could have "Malacath-ed" him and flipped on his "alter-ego."
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