What's the easiest level scaling mod to install and the most : IV

» Mon May 07, 2012 12:01 am

I'm currently using FCOM. I followed a very handy video tutorial guide on how to install it, step-by-step, but it looks like it's a bit unstable. Keeps crashing on me during certain parts, like certain areas. Not too much of a big deal though, since I could go around the area. In case I come across a game breaker caused by FCOM (crashes at a vital part), I would wanna probably switch to a more stable and easier to install level scaling mod, one that would ensure no problems and crashes.

And BTW, the video tutorial that I was following, followed this thread. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1224182-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/

So maybe it's like FCOM+ or something that I'm using? Maybe that would explain the crashes.

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:34 am

I'm currently using FCOM. I followed a very handy video tutorial guide on how to install it, step-by-step, but it looks it's a bit unstable. Keeps crashing on me during certain parts, like certain areas. Not too much of a big deal though, since I could go around the area. In case I come across a game breaker caused by FCOM (crashes at a vital part), I would wanna probably switch to a more stable and easier to install level scaling mod, one that would ensure no problems and crashes.

And BTW, the video tutorial that I was following, followed this thread. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1224182-relz-fcom-convergence-and-ufcom/

So maybe it's like FCOM+ or something that I'm using? Maybe that would explain the crashes.

Well what sort of level overhaul would you like?? If it's something similar to FCOM but more stable, try just OOO or OOO + MMM, as FCOM is heavily based on the gameplay changes that OOO makes.

» Mon May 07, 2012 10:59 am

I'd say the easiest to install would be http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=268 mod. As far as stability, all of the overhaul's I've tried have been stable.

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:58 pm

Nothing too complex. I imagine it would be more stable if it didn't add any new monsters or items, just something that gets rid of level scaling.

I couldn't even install OOO alone lol. Maybe I'll try franceso's mod.

» Mon May 07, 2012 1:33 pm

You can try http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35265 Very simple to install (all you need is Wyre Bash for the BAIN setup) and stable.

» Mon May 07, 2012 1:33 pm

You can try http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35265 Very simple to install (all you need is Wyre Bash for the BAIN setup) and stable.

I heard about TIE, and I think the gameplay changes might be a bit too difficult for me...

» Mon May 07, 2012 2:01 pm

I'd wait a few days if you're installing frans. Big update about to come out..

» Mon May 07, 2012 10:43 am

In my experience, OOO, OOO+MMM, Fran's, FCOM, ROM, TIE, ROM+TIE, ROM+MMM+TIE, and a few other configurations besides, are all 100% stable.

Developing a good understanding of Oblivion mods in general is key, I think. Not that I believe for a second that I do not still have much to learn, by the way! Even so, the time I have taken so far to learn about mods has proved invaluable, when it has come to choosing, organising, installing, fixing, configuring, uninstalling and just generally understanding any given mod.

Get to know the tools at your disposal, quite well, and you cannot go far wrong, in my opinion.

» Mon May 07, 2012 7:12 am

I'd wait a few days if you're installing frans. Big update about to come out..

Can do. I just need a recommendation for back up, in case if I ever DO decide to switch to a less intensive mod.

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:16 am

In my experience, OOO, OOO+MMM, Fran's, FCOM, ROM, TIE, ROM+TIE, ROM+MMM+TIE, and a few other configurations besides, are all 100% stable.

Developing a good understanding of Oblivion mods in general is key, I think. Not that I believe for a second that I do not still have much to learn, by the way! Even so, the time I have taken so far to learn about mods has proved invaluable, when it has come to choosing, organising, installing, fixing, configuring, uninstalling and just generally understanding any given mod.

Get to know the tools at your disposal, quite well, and you cannot go far wrong, in my opinion.

Hmm, maybe I did something wrong? I did everything step by the step in the video, unless the guy who made those videos did something wrong himself, but he got me this far anyways. Just goes to show me that I definitely need an easier mod to install.

» Mon May 07, 2012 6:17 am

Might be the other mods you have running alongside. I could see a lot of things conflicting with FCOM, and incompatibility can easily bring about instability and crashes.

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:02 pm

Might be the other mods you have running alongside. I could see a lot of things conflicting with FCOM, and incompatibility can easily bring about instability and crashes.

The only other mod I have running besides FCOM is alternative start, unless you count streamline and the 4gb patch.

» Mon May 07, 2012 1:37 pm

The only other mod I have running besides FCOM is alternative start, unless you count streamline and the 4gb patch.

When do you get the crashes?? Being specific about them, and posting your load order, exported from Wrye Bash, will go a long way to getting your game stable

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» Mon May 07, 2012 2:14 am

When do you get the crashes?? Being specific about them, and posting your load order, exported from Wrye Bash, will go a long way to getting your game stable

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Well, there was this one spot on the road towards Kvatch that kept crashing. It was very near Kvatch, but it did stop crashing later. Dunno why it stopped, maybe I walked around it, or waited long enough in-game time. And some where in Cyrodil, if I enter one of the gates, it'll crash. Can't remember which, might be the imperial city prison. Also, after coming out of the imperial sewers with the amulet king, if I go through the gate to the imperial market gate district, it'll crash. Though it seems fine if I come out of that gate...

My load order.

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» Mon May 07, 2012 2:34 pm

Whatever you use, you need to add the fantastic http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18417 and/or the incredibl http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35560(for mobs.) They add many new increible weapons and armor

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:17 am

As long as they don't bog down my computer and they're compatible with my mods, then sure. Those weapons are pretty.

» Mon May 07, 2012 2:52 pm

My exact first thoughts when looking at them.

» Mon May 07, 2012 1:12 am

Well, there was this one spot on the road towards Kvatch that kept crashing. It was very near Kvatch, but it did stop crashing later. Dunno why it stopped, maybe I walked around it, or waited long enough in-game time.

I've never been able to confirm this as it's tricky to duplicate, but I think this is actually a vanilla bug. I've noticed that scripted weather patterns (like the Kvatch thunderstorm) can crash my game, especially if I happen to cross back and forth over the radius for the script to kick in a couple times. I've also noticed that the scripted weathers don't always go away when they're supposed to, and that sometimes causes crashes. In some cases I think All Natural makes the problem better (other times it seems to make it worse, who knows?). But like I say it's tough to duplicate, so hard to say. It just seems to crash repeatedly at one point in the game and then *poof* go away.

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:52 am

I've never been able to confirm this as it's tricky to duplicate, but I think this is actually a vanilla bug. I've noticed that scripted weather patterns (like the Kvatch thunderstorm) can crash my game, especially if I happen to cross back and forth over the radius for the script to kick in a couple times. I've also noticed that the scripted weathers don't always go away when they're supposed to, and that sometimes causes crashes. In some cases I think All Natural makes the problem better (other times it seems to make it worse, who knows?). But like I say it's tough to duplicate, so hard to say. It just seems to crash repeatedly at one point in the game and then *poof* go away.

Hmm, what about the imperial city? Any ideas about that? The game crashes when I enter certain gates.

» Mon May 07, 2012 6:18 am

No idea really. Sorry. Just thought I'd chime in about the Kvatch weather scripting, since I encountered it a few times even with vanilla. So, just because you're getting crashes doesn't necessarily mean they're FCOM related. But I don't see much else mod-wise in your load order.