What's the hardest TES game? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri May 04, 2012 10:15 am

I haven't played all TES games so can't give a fair comparison, however Morrowind on maximum difficulty + Galsiah Character Development - hard settings, + Piratelords creatures + Pumamans Giants mod + Morrowind Comes Alive - more enemies patch is a pretty hardcoe setup which i can guarantee will be a long time before you can even venture out of towns without getting killed.

» Thu May 03, 2012 8:51 pm

I think we should talk about regular no-slider difficulty to be honest. They're more like 'tedious sliders' in some, and others don't have them. Bloodmoon at max had one shotting werewolves; make sure you have conjuration enchantments! Oblivion just made everything a punching bag. Skyrim's was alright.

If we're talking base settings Daggerfall is hardest, you can and WILL run into liches which one shot your character at low levels if you're not careful. If you see a skele with a staff RUN.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:55 pm

Daggerfall of course.

» Fri May 04, 2012 11:19 am

Battlespire. Way harder than Daggerfall. I still haven't beaten it.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:42 am

Pretty much comes down to how you play. What little I've seen of DF was pretty tough in places, but apparently there are ways around it, other than for some of the bugs. MW was brutal until you figured out how to adjust to the difficulties, then it steadily turned into a cakewalk. Oblivion was pretty much a "low-to-medium difficulty" throughout, unless you levelled "inefficiently" or if your reflexes are poor, then it could get increasingly tedious and tough at higher levels. I can't play Skyrim, so no opinion there.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:35 am

Daggerfall.

You will not complete it without a guide.

Somebody obviously did. How else was the guide written?

I agree though, Daggerfall (and Arena) are dificult.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:12 am

That's actually pretty much talk. Daggerfall was pretty simple.

Daggerfall was very easy an combination of two effects.
No real high end enemies, you could sneak kill daedra lords in one hit at high level, enchants used fixed spells but many was somewhat level scaled so you could get magic immunity at higher levels.

Level scaled like Oblivion, however with an twist, you had an very low chance of running into real high level enemies at any level

I say Morrowind was hardest at low level, I also find Skyrim hard at medium low levels but Lydia helps a lot.
Oblivion was hardest at high level.

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:11 pm

I have to say Daggerfall was the hardest I played without mods just for getting hopelessly lost in some dungeons. Arena was fairly simple once you learned Passwall. Early on in Morrowind you had to watch where you go but once you gain some levels there is almost no hard fights. Oblivion was the same difficulty beginning to end thanks to everything on leveled lists. Skyrim on Master can beat you down relentlessly but you don't get that dread fear of never being able to get past something like you would 4 floors down a Daggerfall dungeon.

» Fri May 04, 2012 11:11 am

Daggerfall is the only TES game where you die in your first introduction dungeon.

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:49 am

I found Arena and Daggerfall rather easy when I figured out what I was doing. My vote goes to Battlespire.

» Fri May 04, 2012 10:43 am

......easy when I figured out what I was doing.

Yeah, isn't that the fact of gaming or life.

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:16 am

a tie between daggerfall because of its no help quests and very real travel distances and oblivion on master because if you go out of the sewers on master even a slaughterfish can kill you in one hit.

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:09 am

Well it depends if u have tes game experience. If not morrowind was the hardest in all aspects compred to oblivion and skyrim. If u have experience With the series...well Im working on morrowind ATM so the quests are harder than the other two but combat....id say oblivion overall beacause even though at points in morrowind the combats tough as hell a majority of the enemies u fight are the sme ones all at the beginning..crypts and whTnot different story but a majority of the enemies while exploring will be the same ones uve been fight at lvl 1. That said I have died wayyy more times in morrowind than I have in ob and akyrim on mazter soo I dunno.

» Fri May 04, 2012 4:07 am

arena is the hardest for me but only because it becomes tedious after the third staff peice

» Fri May 04, 2012 6:06 am

This is a difficult question because the hard part of the TES games is learning how they work. The actual gameplay is NEVER hard because there are hundreds of ways to break the game.

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:43 am

I never got out of the starter dungeon in Arena and the controls were antediluvian. So that.

Daggerfall I haven't found particularly hard. The dungeons are labyrinthine and you can die easily if you're too slow t react, but if you keep your wits about you it's not that hard.

I went back to play Oblivion and I was amazed at how much health the enemies had compared to Skyrim. But it's still easy enough to survive.

Morrowind could be very hard at early levels, but if you keep your fatigue high and use weapons you're skilled in, most enemies die fairly quickly.

» Fri May 04, 2012 7:35 am

Oblivion in Master i COULDN`T KILL WOLVES IM SO PATHETIC

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:14 am

Dwarf Fortress. Oh wait...

Daggerfall is not that difficult btw. And I got through it without a guide. I had to, since there were none back then.

» Fri May 04, 2012 1:03 am

Daggerfall is really simple once you get into it. Just a little dated.

I'd probably say Morrowind, as I have been in multiple positions where saves have had to be abandoned due to inescapable conditions.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:52 pm

Morrowind isn't hard, just tricky at the start. Oblivion isn't hard due to level scaling, the scaling is more of an annoyance late game when it takes a long time to kill Goblin Warlords. I'm glad Skyrim fixed that flaw although Skyrim can be tricky too unless you overpower yourself which is very easy to do. I'll go with Arena/Daggerfall and Morrowind right behind them.

» Fri May 04, 2012 12:06 am

morrowind at the beginning is a no brain er.

skyrim is easier than oblivion everytime because i can adjust the difficulty bar in oblivion.

thus, skyrim is the easiest and ...

» Thu May 03, 2012 9:44 pm

Morrowind isn't hard, just tricky at the start. Oblivion isn't hard due to level scaling, the scaling is more of an annoyance late game when it takes a long time to kill Goblin Warlords. I'm glad Skyrim fixed that flaw although Skyrim can be tricky too unless you overpower yourself which is very easy to do. I'll go with Arena/Daggerfall and Morrowind right behind them.

don'tgive me that crap: you die in morrowind if you don't think. if you do, you might still die.

what do you call hard? dying a couple times? lololool

» Fri May 04, 2012 5:31 am

Probably Arena or Daggerfall

You've never actually played either of those games, have you? Daggerfall is really not very hard at all.

Anyway, I'd say that Oblivion on Master difficulty is by far the hardest game in the TES series. The leveling is impossibly bad even on the default skill level and it just gets worse the higher you go.

» Fri May 04, 2012 11:27 am

They are all really hard until you hit about level 20-30... then they start to become simple...

» Fri May 04, 2012 8:09 am

oblivion level 50+ without exploits, any difficulty really. I remember fighting horrible glass clad banditoes who took half my sword health to slay...