What the Hell are spiders doing in the Far Northern Hinterla

Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:49 pm

It would be a good idea to not wear a fly suit during halloween in Skyrim. :ermm:
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:58 pm

even fantasy worlds have internal logic - that is what allows for a suspension of disbelief. This is a valid thread, and would benefit by less people with token ' duhh itz a fantasy world, anything is possible!' comments - By that logic, you could encounter a humorous taking bunny rabbit with a tie-die t-shirt and a penchant for rude jokes, and it would be just fine, because, well, this is a fantasy world, yeah, and anything is possible! -_-

That's a reasonable point, but it would not be wrong to say that perhaps these spiders are not earth spiders and while outwardly alike, are internally qwuite different and are able to withstand lower temperatures easily.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:40 pm

That's a reasonable point, but it would not be wrong to say that perhaps these spiders are not earth spiders and while outwardly alike, are internally qwuite different and are able to withstand lower temperatures easily.


yeah for sure - I'm arguing the same point as you - that if spiders are in, they should be logically accounted for within the world - i.e - specific reasons they dwell in cold climates. As opposed to saying it's ok simply because it is a fantasy world, which is a crap argument.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:12 am

Spiders are one of the most common creatures on Earth, and the first land animals (together with scorpions.)
You can find an average of a million spiders in a hectare of grassland.
Spiders live in every habitat and climate you can think of, they are adaptable and resilient.

Besides that, he Skyrim spider must have some magical influence in its survival.
The cold doesnt matter, size does.
It either has an internal skeleton and lungs beside its external skeleton and thrachea, or it gets support via magical means, otherwise it would a.) be crushed under its own weight and b.) choke.

Spiders in Skyrim are not out of place.
Please do some research before you make threads with wild assumptions.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:35 am

Skyrim is in the North. It is NOT in the "far North." That's Atmora, an entire continent North of Tamriel.

Just drop by to second this. And judging from the scene in the trailer, Solitude doesn't seem to be a freezing port city to me, even though it is traditionally known as the northernmost major city on Tamriel.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:46 am

Its almost as if they are creating a whole new world completely different from reality. Whats next talking lizards and cats?


This post has already been praised so much. Even so.... WIN!
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:24 am

Spiders can survive pretty far north here on earth.


This.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_wolf_spider

And the spider in the trailer does sorta look like a huge wolf spider to me.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:10 am

It's a fantasy game.


This.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:20 pm

Spiders in Skyrim are not out of place.


That is very true for the reasons you stated.

The real question is why Spiders at all? Have the creative juices run so dry that the game has to add more of the most cliched monsters in RPG history to it's line up? It was rather refreshing to play Oblivion, and Morrowind without the massive spiders that seem to be in 99.9% of other RPGs. Do we have to have every cliched RPG monster in the game before we see something a little more original?
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:13 pm

This.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_wolf_spider

And the spider in the trailer does sorta look like a huge wolf spider to me.


Look at the pretty spider. :clap:
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:29 pm

I don't see the problem, spiders actually do live in alpine and artic regions>>> http://caucasus-spiders.info/spider-habitats/

"Spiders can be found in all high mountain zones. Directly above the tree-line in the alpine zone (1700 - 4000 m), spiders mostly live on the ground between rocks and plant roots or on the few woody plants left (e. g. on Rhododenron caucasicum, R. luteum). At above 4000 m last grassy patches begin to disappear with increasing altitude and become more and more patchy (sub-nival zone) Above the climatic frontier of permanent snow (true nival zone) the last few remaining spiders live in a few sheltered microhabitats such as rock crevices, temporary snow and ice caves or between the remaining mosses and lichens. A number of yet undiscovered spider species are expected in such remote habitats and collecting spiders there would most probably yield very interesting results."
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:26 pm

even fantasy worlds have internal logic - that is what allows for a suspension of disbelief. This is a valid thread, and would benefit by less people with token ' duhh itz a fantasy world, anything is possible!' comments - By that logic, you could encounter a humorous taking bunny rabbit with a tie-die t-shirt and a penchant for rude jokes, and it would be just fine, because, well, this is a fantasy world, yeah, and anything is possible! -_-



er.. yes, and no....

Speaking of spiders:
is there an explanation as to why spiders in TES are bigger than cows? No. The biggest known spider in the world is about a foot long and 4-5 inches in height. Yet, in TES, spiders look to be about 8-10 feet long and about 4-5 feet tall. What is the explanation for that?

Is there an explanation as to why spiders run to you and attack you? Spiders are stalkers. Smaller spiders use webs as nets, larger spiders stand still until the prey is close enough to jump it. Is there an explanation for that?

AND FOR THE WIN: (drum roll)
I GIVE YOU... THE REAL-LIFE, AMAZING SNOW SPIDER!!!!


http://bugguide.net/node/view/369760


/thread.

Thank you... don't forget to tip your waitress..
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:43 pm

Do you know what is even more ludicrous? I am assuming that the world of the elder scrolls has about the same gravity and oxygen density as Mother Earth, so therefore it would be impossible for spiders to grow so large. I mean really Bethesda, get your facts right, you cannot defy the laws of physics, laddie. :rofl:
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:39 am

Do you know what is even more ludicrous? I am assuming that the world of the elder scrolls has about the same gravity and oxygen density as Mother Earth, so therefore it would be impossible for spiders to grow so large. I mean really Bethesda, get your facts right, you cannot defy the laws of physics, laddie. :rofl:


You can with magic.
Magic is pretty much defying the laws of physics.
Lore supports magic being incorporated in living things and used as way to change and survive, for example, nirnroots.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:51 pm

You can with magic.
Magic is pretty much defying the laws of physics.
Lore supports magic being incorporated in living things and used as way to change and survive, for example, nirnroots.


Why do we even need explanations on this? It's a fantasy world, if there are giant spiders, they are there, the end.
Deal with it. :disguise:
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:41 am

You can with magic.
Magic is pretty much defying the laws of physics.
Lore supports magic being incorporated in living things and used as way to change and survive, for example, nirnroots.

Oh, that's al'right then. :whistling:
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:45 pm

I am assuming that the world of the elder scrolls has about the same gravity and oxygen density as Mother Earth,

Judging from how crazy high you can jump and floats with a naturally high acrobatic skill, I doubt it.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:23 am

Judging from how crazy high you can jump and floats with a naturally high acrobatic skill, I doubt it.


Eh, that's probably a case of bad animations and game design.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:53 am

It would be one thing to have giant Spiders in Black Marsh ( a place I never intend to visit anyway if I can avoid it. A festering, fetid, vermin infested swamp. . . keep it.) But in Skyrim? A frozen region in the far North? A place of LOOOONG, HAAARSH winters and short cool summers. . . who the hell was so desirous to see a spider that they stuck some in one of the last places in Tamriel you would ever expect to find them? They didn't inhabit Cyrodil, but they can be found in the farther North and Colder Skyrim??? Madness.

There are spiders in norway. Lol,
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:15 am

Its almost as if they are creating a whole new world completely different from reality. Whats next talking lizards and cats?

:rofl:
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:25 am

Eh, that's probably a case of bad animations and game design.

Durr obviously!
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:26 pm

They're ice spiders, duh.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:53 am

Spiders are one of the most common creatures on Earth, and the first land animals (together with scorpions.)
You can find an average of a million spiders in a hectare of grassland.
Spiders live in every habitat and climate you can think of, they are adaptable and resilient.

Besides that, he Skyrim spider must have some magical influence in its survival.
The cold doesnt matter, size does.
It either has an internal skeleton and lungs beside its external skeleton and thrachea, or it gets support via magical means, otherwise it would a.) be crushed under its own weight and b.) choke.

Spiders in Skyrim are not out of place.
Please do some research before you make threads with wild assumptions.


Wow. That's impressive. Have you studied Biology or something?


That is very true for the reasons you stated.

The real question is why Spiders at all? Have the creative juices run so dry that the game has to add more of the most cliched monsters in RPG history to it's line up? It was rather refreshing to play Oblivion, and Morrowind without the massive spiders that seem to be in 99.9% of other RPGs. Do we have to have every cliched RPG monster in the game before we see something a little more original?


To be honest, I don't see the problem with cliched monsters. People complain about dragons, spiders... and I think... well, if they appear in so much films and games, it's because they are, in fact, good, cool ideas with a lot of potential (especially in the case of dragons, this time around). A giant horned, flying bacillus, able to shoot laser would be a very original, fresh creature, far from being cliche. Would it be good?
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:07 am

Maybe they can cast Frost Shield
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:05 pm

... actually in world of warcraft there are spiders all over the frozen continent of northrend, but they all live underground waiting for unsuspecting adventurers or animals to wander in so they can ensnare them in there webs. kind of like shelob from lord of the rings...man that is a scary thought going into a dark cave passage only to end up stuck in a giant web while some fat ugly spider slowly descends from the ceiling.......i hope they hate fire..

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