What the hell is wrong with Vault Tec?!?

Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:53 pm

I always thought that Vault Tec is a bit cruel for tricking people like that and putting them in vaults where most of them died. Ex. are Vaults: 92, 101, 112, 13, and so much more. So I need all of you to help me find out: Why would Vault Tec do this?
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:15 pm

The government felt that Earth was unlikely to be very habitable after a nuclear war, so even if the vaults help people survive there might not be much waiting for them outside. So rather than stay here humanity might be forced to colonize another planet. Outlandish? Yes, but it certainly fits the Science! theme.

Most of the vault experiments are seeing how people handle an extended stay in a confined situation with various problems - travel to another planet would take a considerable amount of time. A number of the experiments make a lot of sense, such Vault 53 where things break down constantly but can be repaired. Many of course are rather silly. :) A few of the vault experiments seem to have purposes outside of simulating extended space flight and may be more general social experiments or may have some purpose that isn't easily deduced.
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Valerie Marie
 
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:40 am

Not all vaults killed their inhabitants. The vault experiments from the originals were pretty innocent. Excluding 12.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:52 pm

Not all vaults killed their inhabitants. The vault experiments from the originals were pretty innocent. Excluding 12.


Seems to me that the only vaults that were/are inhabited recently were the ones that had these crazy experiements. I have yet to see in a fallout game a vault that did not have some weird experiement going on. Hm, did the vault the lone wanderor come from have a crazy experiment? I can't remember. (also my "knowledge" is limited to FO3 and FONV, I'm relatively new to the fallout series so if FO and FO2 had "normal" vaults I'm unaware and please correct me.)
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:34 pm

Seems to me that the only vaults that were/are inhabited recently were the ones that had these crazy experiements. I have yet to see in a fallout game a vault that did not have some weird experiement going on. Hm, did the vault the lone wanderor come from have a crazy experiment? I can't remember. (also my "knowledge" is limited to FO3 and FONV, I'm relatively new to the fallout series so if FO and FO2 had "normal" vaults I'm unaware and please correct me.)

Vault 13 was intended to be sealed off for 200 years
Vault 15 had people from variety of different ethnicities and ideologies, NCR is the result. (along with Khans, Jackals and Vipers)
That one vault where everything was supposed to break down all the time.
Then there was a vault which didn't have any entertainmet in it, and its sister vault where they had only tapes of a crappy comedian.
And others.

In designing the vaults which were in NV and 3, Vault-Tec just went full [censored]. For example, plant zombies, white noise, super mutants, psychoactive drugs and Gary clones. Altough, NV had some pretty good vaults, too.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:30 pm

Did anyone from Vault-Tec survive to actually see the results of their experiments?
(Maybe a Vault-Tec 'head office' vault?)
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:43 pm

Did anyone from Vault-Tec survive to actually see the results of their experiments?
(Maybe a Vault-Tec 'head office' vault?)


That would be the Enclave
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:38 pm

Thanks (excuse my ignorance!).
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:59 pm

The government felt that Earth was unlikely to be very habitable after a nuclear war, so even if the vaults help people survive there might not be much waiting for them outside. So rather than stay here humanity might be forced to colonize another planet. Outlandish? Yes, but it certainly fits the Science! theme.

Most of the vault experiments are seeing how people handle an extended stay in a confined situation with various problems - travel to another planet would take a considerable amount of time. A number of the experiments make a lot of sense, such Vault 53 where things break down constantly but can be repaired. Many of course are rather silly. :) A few of the vault experiments seem to have purposes outside of simulating extended space flight and may be more general social experiments or may have some purpose that isn't easily deduced.


All the stuff about going to other planets was from Van Buren and is not canon. The American Government were building Vaults to save people. They got Vault Tech to build them. Enclave being the Enclave changed things behind the scenes.

Out of the122 Vaults 17 were built as advertised the rest were for the experiments.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:09 pm

Its a commonly known fact that the Enclave were the ones to set up these experiments.

One of the reasons I don't like them but lets not turn this into some digressed Enclave Bash thread.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:52 am

Its a commonly known fact that the Enclave were the ones to set up these experiments.

One of the reasons I don't like them but lets not turn this into some digressed Enclave Bash thread.


Its commonly known that the American Government and thus the Enclave set up these experiments. Vault-Tec might as well have been a department of the government it. It wielded that much political power.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:30 am

Its commonly known that the American Government and thus the Enclave set up these experiments. Vault-Tec might as well have been a department of the government it. It wielded that much political power.


Wouldn't vault experiments violate the Bill of Rights?
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:30 pm

All the stuff about going to other planets was from Van Buren and is not canon. The American Government were building Vaults to save people. They got Vault Tech to build them. Enclave being the Enclave changed things behind the scenes.

Out of the122 Vaults 17 were built as advertised the rest were for the experiments.

I agree with you. But i wonder why the Enclave would do that? They're the ones trying to "restore the nation to it's former glory". So why trap- and sometimes kill- some of the only "pure humans", as put into words by President Eden, left on the face of America? Someone please answer me?!?
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:14 pm

I agree with you. But i wonder why the Enclave would do that? They're the ones trying to "restore the nation to it's former glory". So why trap- and sometimes kill- some of the only "pure humans", as put into words by President Eden, left on the face of America? Someone please answer me?!?


They knew things were coming to an end or they wanted things to come to an end to rebuild America/ World to their ideal. They came up with the Vaults to gather information on human behaviour (moslty). The data would some how help them rebuild. The world was running out of reasources before the Great War. Major over population and every nation on Earth hated one another. So Enclave new the end was coming. The Vaults were built by Vault Tech to save peope. Enclave usurped them. Maybe they knew the end was coming from Mr.House. If I remember right he found out/calculated 12 years or so before hand(?) Vaults were being built long before that.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:04 pm

Enclave is an evil, evil orginization and use the 'lets rebuild america' phrase to make themselves look better, I honestly think they are in denial. Using that phrase to convince themselves what they are doing is for the good of the people, the people they keep killing.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:06 pm

The government felt that Earth was unlikely to be very habitable after a nuclear war, so even if the vaults help people survive there might not be much waiting for them outside. So rather than stay here humanity might be forced to colonize another planet. Outlandish? Yes, but it certainly fits the Science! theme.

Most of the vault experiments are seeing how people handle an extended stay in a confined situation with various problems - travel to another planet would take a considerable amount of time. A number of the experiments make a lot of sense, such Vault 53 where things break down constantly but can be repaired. Many of course are rather silly. :) A few of the vault experiments seem to have purposes outside of simulating extended space flight and may be more general social experiments or may have some purpose that isn't easily deduced.


One of the themes that Fallout shares with "A Boy and His Dog" is at the break off point of IRL chronology, America put its space race money into science of a terrestrial nature, such as nuclear tech. Thus, little to no space tech. Which makes Repconn kinda weird.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:45 pm

One of the themes that Fallout shares with "A Boy and His Dog" is at the break off point of IRL chronology, America put its space race money into science of a terrestrial nature, such as nuclear tech. Thus, little to no space tech. Which makes Repconn kinda weird.

What? What about them going to the moon on mulitple occanisons all the way until 2020? They have plenty of space tech, and arguably more than us.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:22 pm

What? What about them going to the moon on mulitple occanisons all the way until 2020? They have plenty of space tech, and arguably more than us.


They also progressed 66 years past where we are now. But I get your point, they do some space exploration, but never on an interstellar level really. So the idea of
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the ghouls flying off on rockets for an intergalactic journey
seemed a bit far for canonicity. But don't get me wrong - I love the idea.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:03 pm

They also progressed 66 years past where we are now. But I get your point, they do some space exploration, but never on an interstellar level really. So the idea of
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the ghouls flying off on rockets for an intergalactic journey
seemed a bit far for canonicity. But don't get me wrong - I love the idea.


From my understanding when the world started going to hell America put an end to their space program. Just because America stopped having missions to the moon does not mean they don't need rockets. They stil needed to put satellites, space stations and weapons in to orbit.

Enclave going into space was from Van Buren and therefore not canon.
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Isabel Ruiz
 
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:49 pm

The US government may as well have been a military dictatorship near the end.
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:46 pm

Vault 8 was a completly normal vault along with 13 and 15
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:15 pm

Vault 8 was a completly normal vault along with 13 and 15

Vaults 13 and 15 weren't normal.
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Paula Rose
 
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Post » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:45 pm

Vaults 13 and 15 weren't normal.

I thought 13 was suppost to stay closed for 200 years
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Mark Hepworth
 
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:54 am

... that there were 17 vaults which actually worked as advertised?
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Jack Bryan
 
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:30 am

Vaults 13 and 15 weren't normal.

Vault 15:Intended to stay closed for 50 years and include people of radically diverse ideologies.
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