What do the other Et'Ada think?

Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:06 pm

I've been thinking to myself for the past few weeks, ever since i learned alduin was the antagonist. What do the other Et'Ada think of his actions? Et'Ada referring to both the Aedra and Daedra. After all Talos, Arkay and Sheogorath were all once mortals themselves surely they would have some issue with him destroying Nirn. While i know the Dovahkiin is chosen by the gods to stop alduin, but why send one person, dragon born or not to stop a god? and his army of dragons?

This is simply for discussion i just want to see what others think.

Edit: Sheogorath as the Champion of Cyrodiil, who takes the seat as the Mad God at the beginning of the 4th era.(supposedly) http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sheogorath
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:24 am

Daedra likely have differing opinions about it, and Alduin IS an Aedra. Its really an expression of the natural death and rebirth cycle, writ large. I don't get the sense that aedra in general have strong feelings about stuff like this, its pretty much unavoidable and necessary, and they seem pretty constrained within their roles.

Other et'Ada (like Magnus) likely couldn't care less, they'd just as soon pretend Nirn didn't exist. The whole thing with Lorkhan was pretty embarrassing for them.

Also there's no guarantee that a mortal still rules the Shivering Isles.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:13 am

I don't really think they have an opinion one way or the other. This is Alduin's job. This is what Alduin is supposed to do. Unless I'm confused. It's just like Sheogorath. The other Et'Ada aren't going to question the Mad God when he kills people who grow beards. That is crazy, and crazy is his job. Mehrunes Dagon's job wasn't to invade Tamriel, so he was punished. I guess. I'm not entirely sure of the lore, but that's how I understand it.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:33 am

I don't really think they have an opinion one way or the other. This is Alduin's job. This is what Alduin is supposed to do. Unless I'm confused. It's just like Sheogorath. The other Et'Ada aren't going to question the Mad God when he kills people who grow beards. That is crazy, and crazy is his job. Mehrunes Dagon's job wasn't to invade Tamriel, so he was punished. I guess. I'm not entirely sure of the lore, but that's how I understand it.



lol, clearly.

I don't think the other Et'Ada will care much, its not as if they haven't seen it all before. They may be persuaded to intervene if someone kicks up enough of a stink, but I doubt they'll actively seek out a "savior".
I honestly think there is more to this then just "stop Alduin". We can't kill the time god, that makes no sense, so we'll have to give him a reason to stop what he is doing.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:20 pm

The other Aedra and Lorkhan probably don't like it.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:50 am

I've been thinking to myself for the past few weeks, ever since i learned alduin was the antagonist. What do the other Et'Ada think of his actions? Et'Ada referring to both the Aedra and Daedra. After all Talos, Arkay and Sheogorath were all once mortals themselves surely they would have some issue with him destroying Nirn. While i know the Dovahkiin is chosen by the gods to stop alduin, but why send one person, dragon born or not to stop a god? and his army of dragons?

This is simply for discussion i just want to see what others think.

Edit: Sheogorath as the Champion of Cyrodiil, who takes the seat as the Mad God at the beginning of the 4th era.(supposedly) http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sheogorath


Not Supposedly, Thats the whole quest line for Shivering Isle's. But all elder scrolls games have 1 person doing crazy things no-one thought possible.

Arena, Traveling all of Tamriel to find and rescue Uriel Septim (although Jagar tharn had taken his place)
BattleSpire where you fight eventually fight Mehrunes Dagon in single combat (Far more impressive than than the CoC)
Becoming the Nerevar and stopping not several Demi-Gods, but also completing the Bloodmoon prophecy and fighting Hircine in single Combat
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:48 pm

lol, clearly.

I don't think the other Et'Ada will care much, its not as if they haven't seen it all before. They may be persuaded to intervene if someone kicks up enough of a stink, but I doubt they'll actively seek out a "savior".
I honestly think there is more to this then just "stop Alduin". We can't kill the time god, that makes no sense, so we'll have to give him a reason to stop what he is doing.

Ha, with one word you made me realize why what I was saying was wrong. Dagon was supposed to do it. The Oblivion crisis was part of the prophecy in Skyrim. Haha, I hate it when I forget such obvious things.
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Post » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:20 pm

If you're asking about the Aedra, they mostly just think what their mortals think they think. The Daedra are probably complaining about the inconvenience or shrugging and saying "here we go again."
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:12 pm

If Alduin, the infamous world-eater, has destroyed the world many times before, I wouldn't understand the divine beef with it now... :shrug:...
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:00 am

Quote from MK:

Don't forget that gods can be shaped by the mythopoeic forces of the mantlers-- so Tosh Raka could be an Akaviri avatar of Akatosh with a grudge against his mirror-brother in Cyrodiil.

Just like Akatosh-as-we-usually-know-him could time-scheme against his mirror-brother of the Nords, Alduin, to keep the present kalpa-- perhaps his favorite-- from being eaten.

Notice all the coulds.


Also, I fully expect Shor to show up and do some awesome Shor stuff at some point.(In some form)
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:46 pm

Nah Xzibit will rock up and pimp slap Alduin while we watch.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:34 am

The events of Skyrim are foretold by the Elder Scrolls. If they wanted to stop Alduin, they had plenty of time to do it.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:06 am

we can't kill the time god, that makes no sense, so we'll have to give him a reason to stop what he is doing.

It's a dumb question, but do you think Bethesda knows that?
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:21 am

I love people's knowledge of lore, and just love TES even more for having it :P
It just seems silly for A/A to always destroy the world as planned, and then have a blessed warrior try and stop him. The two contradict so I'm guessing at least one of the god's aren't too happy about it? I'm guessing Akatosh is getting a bit annoyed at his bad habit and created our dragonborn as a sort of intervention :P
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:01 pm

I love people's knowledge of lore, and just love TES even more for having it :P
It just seems silly for A/A to always destroy the world as planned, and then have a blessed warrior try and stop him. The two contradict so I'm guessing at least one of the god's aren't too happy about it? I'm guessing Akatosh is getting a bit annoyed at his bad habit and created our dragonborn as a sort of intervention :P


I'm quite sure Lorkhan would be more annoyed about the fact, as he created Nirn. If people theories about "Dovakiin" being a Shezzarine are true, this would be even more possible.

(Shezzarine is a re-incarnated form of Shor, Nords Name for Lorkhan)
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:25 am

Another quote from Kirkbride:

''The Eight Limbs (and their Missing Ninth) have always, always made sure there was a loophole. Sometimes to their detriment, sure, but more often a hedged bet to ensure the survival of the current kalpa.''
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:15 am

I don't think the gods are that simple. I'll bet there are some key mythological as well as actual differences between Alduin and Akatosh even though they're the same being.

It's not logic, it's beyond logic. We can't hope to comprehend fictional gods just as we can't hope to comprehend er... fictional gods in real life (sorry, atheist here. But you get my point, right?).
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:09 am

I'm quite sure Lorkhan would be more annoyed about the fact, as he created Nirn. If people theories about "Dovakiin" being a Shezzarine are true, this would be even more possible.

(Shezzarine is a re-incarnated form of Shor, Nords Name for Lorkhan)


I like this idea, i don't know if it's true or not but it's good idea.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:33 am

Who the hell knows? We can't know what the other Et'Ada think. Alduin has destroyed the world many times before and none of the others tried to stop him (or they tried and failed; we really don't know). However, Lorkhan, being the one who pretty much created Nirn and the mortals, would likely not want to see this happen. However, he's a bit... incapacitated. Not dead, technically, but not really capable of intervening. There are a few good theories on Skyrim's MQ and how it will effect/be effected by the lore, but really we'll just have to wait and see to find out.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:12 am

and none of the others tried to stop him (or they tried and failed; we really don't know).


Actually, we do know. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/fight-one-eating-birth-dagon

That's assuming you consider that story true, which you should, cause it's awesome.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:33 am

Actually, we do know. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/fight-one-eating-birth-dagon

That's assuming you consider that story true, which you should, cause it's awesome.

Mehrunes Dagon was against destruction? Nuh-uh.

Personally, I have more faith in lore from the Mer's perspective than that of the humans. I think they get everything wrong.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:38 pm

Mehrunes Dagon was against destruction? Nuh-uh.


Yes huh. But that was before he was Dagon. And it makes sense really. He want's to destroy the pieces of Nirn he hid, so that he can become the kind Leaper Demon King again.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:49 am

The Daedra probably don't care. They have their own realms which are perfectly fine. Dagon probably does though, given his condition.

The Aedra are probably thrilled. Alduin is eating the world so that he and the other Aedra can be free, so that's exactly what they want.
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:26 am

I've been thinking to myself for the past few weeks, ever since i learned alduin was the antagonist. What do the other Et'Ada think of his actions? Et'Ada referring to both the Aedra and Daedra. After all Talos, Arkay and Sheogorath were all once mortals themselves surely they would have some issue with him destroying Nirn. While i know the Dovahkiin is chosen by the gods to stop alduin, but why send one person, dragon born or not to stop a god? and his army of dragons?

This is simply for discussion i just want to see what others think.

Edit: Sheogorath as the Champion of Cyrodiil, who takes the seat as the Mad God at the beginning of the 4th era.(supposedly) http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sheogorath


who did you say that? dont expect things confirmed which are not confirmed ! :facepalm:
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Post » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:08 pm

Nah Xzibit will rock up and pimp slap Alduin while we watch.


:rofl:
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