What's is the power level of a Deadric Lord as well of an Ae

Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:24 am

So, one of the things that always intersted me was the powers of Alduin, as well the powers of Mehrunes Dagon. But since the game disagree, as well don't represents the LORE as it should be. I always wondered. What's the power level of those two guys? What i men by power levels is:

1. Someone like Champion of Cyrodill, who can beat everybody with a sword. Like in other games that are very badass and can kill armies with their fists. But are mortal, but they skill levels make them unstopble.
2. Someone like Voldemort or Sauron, that can kill 20 enimies with a single weapon slice and are immortal because of some kind of universe rule or object.
3. Someone like a Dragon. Who can make cities fly with a Fus RoH Dah
4. Citie Busters like in Dragonball. Those who can destroy cities (such as Mehrunes done in LORE) with an energy ball of the size of an insect.
5. Someone who can change the things with a think because of what their represent. For example, since Azura is the Deadric Prince of dusk and dawn, she can change the day time as she wants as well Hircine, that can summon like 10.000 animals to atack a city. Or like the Olimpian gods in God of war, that can use water and sky as they want because of what they represent.
6. Someone with the powers similar of Galactus, Alduin looks alot like Galactus because of his powers. When he tried to eat the planet, alot of major powers needed to act agaisn't him. Such agaisn't Galactus. This level they can control alot of the things that surround them on an insane scale.
7. Some one like Pre-Retcon the Beyonder of Doctor.Manhathan. But this is a very ridiculous and imporbable because they can control mater and the universe that surround them with what they can think. Sithis of the monomyth would be the closest to this.
8. Someone like Chuck Norris, well how can i describe Chuck norris powers?

"Sithis exist because i demanded."
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 10:37 pm

Over Ninethou-

I'm sorry.

In their own realms, each Daedric Prince would be on the level of Chuck Norris. Outside of their own realm, it is more difficult. Often we only see an avatar or an aspect of a God. The Aedra seem to exert little influence over Nirn other than through their blessings and their spheres. It is likely their power is closely tied to the faith bestowed in them.

In truth we've never really seen a Proper God go at it, apart from possibly at the very end of Oblivion, though still no-one really has any idea what precisely we witnessed in the Temple of the One.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:53 am

The Daedra seem to have more power on Nirn if they have grass roots support, but they really only apply themselves when they have a specific interest.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:42 pm

Imagine Jupiter picking a fight with Mars.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 10:00 am

Sauron is roughly comparable to an Aedra, FYI. He's a Maia, which is close enough to being the ME version of an Aedra.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:33 am

Sauron is roughly comparable to an Aedra, FYI. He's a Maia, which is close enough to being the ME version of an Aedra.
Not quite. The Aedra are closer to the Valar, which would make the Maia a general sort of demigod, like Morihaus.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:49 am

Well, you could see the gods and the Daedra as being equal, just with different roles. For example, Arkay is tasked with making sure people are born and that they die properly. Azura is in charge of dawn and dusk. I think that the Aedra took the role of more global/mystical beings, whereas the Daedra are much more active in the world and therefor manifest themselves differently. Also, there is no saying that Alduin is a god, as he is actually Akatosh's firstborn son, and he proclamed himself an aspect of Akatosh.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:43 am

Not quite. The Aedra are closer to the Valar, which would make the Maia a general sort of demigod, like Morihaus.

And Tom Bombadil would be a Dreugh-prince from a previous kalpa.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:11 am

Not quite. The Aedra are closer to the Valar, which would make the Maia a general sort of demigod, like Morihaus.
And Sithis to Eru.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:45 am

Imagine Jupiter picking a fight with Mars.
Mars got his ass kicked at Troy by a dude who was mostly-mortal. The Aedra and Daedra are way more powerful than the greek gods.

When it comes to the Et'Ada, asking whose more powerful is sort of like asking which is more powerful, entropy or logic?
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:40 pm

Mars got his ass kicked at Troy by a dude who was mostly-mortal. The Aedra and Daedra are way more powerful than the greek gods.

When it comes to the Et'Ada, asking whose more powerful is sort of like asking which is more powerful, entropy or logic?

I meant the planets.

Also, entropy, every time.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 3:47 am

And Sithis to Eru.
Yea, no. Tolkien's universe is structured monotheistic-ally, stemming from the omnipotent, all-powerful, god. While TES has a Godhead figure, he is nothing like Eru Ilúvatar. The levels of Anu/Padhome Anuiel/Sithis don't exist in E?.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:48 am

@OP

Somewhere between seven and the square root of an active volcano, depending on how far advanced the kalpa is.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:39 am

The Aedra are the Earthbones, the laws of nature.
Kyne's blessing makes you able to breathe.
Arkay's edicts ensure you live and die at your appointed time.
Mara's love makes your spirit bound to the flesh which loves life like a mother.
Zenithar's anointment ensures the right thing in the right place.
Dibellah, ah, Dibellah, we feel her most when we come of age.

You cannot crowbar the Aedra from creation, as they are it, and they are dead. They made the Mundus as a means to become greater than what was before.

The Princes of Misrule circle the Aurbis, they have their time and place in the tapestry. But since they did not create they can only watch and meddle and are limited to be summoned of a powerful mage or witch or ritual performed on auspicious days.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:48 pm

Over 9000.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:33 am

I would assume Dagon would incinerate Alduin, but that dumb little storybook tried to make Alduin scary. I mean look at Dagon's form in OB and look at Alduin. Alduin is a dragon and therefore a physical being. You chop off his head and he dies... at least for a while. Dagon could just take his axe and rend Alduin asunder.

Things used to make so much more sense...
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:31 am

I would assume Dagon would incinerate Alduin, but that dumb little storybook tried to make Alduin scary. I mean look at Dagon's form in OB and look at Alduin. Alduin is a dragon and therefore a physical being. You chop off his head and he dies... at least for a while. Dagon could just take his axe and rend Alduin asunder.

Things used to make so much more sense...

I wager that Alduin's physical body is merely an avatar he coalesces like the daedra coalesce from the waters.
It is Alduin himself that lords his body, unlike us weak mortals whos bodies are always ruling us with being too cold or too empty or too sneezy.
Say that Alduin and his kin are original Ehlnofey. Maybe their way to keep from fragmenting was to eat the others.
Maybe Alduin has dominion over the mortal after-life because he has eaten them for so long there is a connection and he can find souls no matter where they go, because they are him.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:55 am

In the Skyrim loading screen it says "The Oblivion Crisis was caused at the end of the 3rd era by Mehrunes Dagon, who tried to enter Mundus in his tru, and terrible form". That's off the top of my head, but it implies that Dagon either tried to merge his realm into mundus or that he actually has a true, satanic form (for his avatars?). But the Daedra didn't always have realms, so maybe that's how he looked before he made a realm.

Skyrim definitely complicated things... more.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:49 am

In the Skyrim loading screen it says "The Oblivion Crisis was caused at the end of the 3rd era by Mehrunes Dagon, who tried to enter Mundus in his tru, and terrible form". That's off the top of my head, but it implies that Dagon either tried to merge his realm into mundus or that he actually has a true, satanic form (for his avatars?). But the Daedra didn't always have realms, so maybe that's how he looked before he made a realm.

The thing about Skyrim loading screens..
They are lore but its presented as truth, which I think is a mistake.
I feel that lore like always is subject to interpretation, but the set-in-stone way the laoding screen appear make this difficult.
To be really honest (some) of the new lore really isnt that good. There is a new book that fact-for-fact recants what the CoC did in Oblivion. I do not call that good lore, there is no room for misinterpretment.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:10 am

In the Skyrim loading screen it says "The Oblivion Crisis was caused at the end of the 3rd era by Mehrunes Dagon, who tried to enter Mundus in his tru, and terrible form". That's off the top of my head, but it implies that Dagon either tried to merge his realm into mundus or that he actually has a true, satanic form (for his avatars?). But the Daedra didn't always have realms, so maybe that's how he looked before he made a realm.

Skyrim definitely complicated things... more.

I got the impression that he hadn't "merged" completely with mundus, just that now there was absoloutly nothing stopping it from happening which would mean the form you see at the end of oblivion was still just an avatar. If he had fully merged then killing that physical form would of done nothing and the daedra would still of won, which they didnt.

Consider that at the end, that form that was seen in oblivion wasn't actually his "true" form just the most popular imagery for the people of tamriel. (so in effect, his true and terrible form)
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 11:30 pm

It matters enormously where you're standing at the time. CHIM enables you to stand where none of this matters. Stand in the wrong place, however, and any of the above-mentioned will squash you like a beetle.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:48 am

Lol power levels. Anybody have a power reader headset?

I joke. Tes is uniquely complicated in these matters. As far as the aedra go. Idk. From everything I've seen and read their influence and power lies behind their creation.

While Tolkien's valar aren't gods persay I see the aedra in a similar perspective. Aule was A master crafter creator of ores gems mountains while yavanna had a power over living and growing things. However they still manifest themselves from time to time.

Remember zenithar appeared to the neravarine as Jon Hawkins, Talos gave her/him a lucky old coin in the guise of a Wulf, and Mara gave him/her a skirt in the guise of..that one chick.

And of course Akatosh appeared as a fiery dragon.
The daedra are bound by their own rules and pacts and that's what limits them in tamriel. There seem to b limitless loopholes.
The daedra are almost like super viruses of Tes...in a way.
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Post » Mon May 07, 2012 10:25 pm

Type I is always the most powerful. Anthropoid biped is the most potent expression of divine power, and grappling/punching is the ultimate weapon. Speaking of the Valar, Morgoth Bauglir fought their combined power to a stand-still, and Arda couldn't even form until the Valar Tulkas stepped in. Tulkas' only power is punching.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:18 pm

Type I is always the most powerful. Anthropoid biped is the most potent expression of divine power, and grappling/punching is the ultimate weapon. Speaking of the Valar, Morgoth Bauglir fought their combined power to a stand-still, and Arda couldn't even form until the Valar Tulkas stepped in. Tulkas' only power is punching.

Vala Tulkas. Valar is plural.

And Tulkas knew judo, too.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:08 am

There's a story about Joe Michael Straczynski, the producer and lead writer of Babylon 5, being asked by a fan how fast Starfuries flew. He answered, "They travel at the speed of plot."

Daedric Lords are powerful enough to be a real challenge for a mortal Hero. Mortal Heroes are powerful enough to be a real challenge for a Daedric Lord.
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