yawn.....another wall of text OP.....and if DX11 didnt matter whyd they brag about and advertise it all the way up to release? Lies? I think yes

I would like to add one more thing. I just wish, sometimes, that developer would remember what Quake, or UT was back in the days. I'm talking about mods, customization, consoles commands, options and communities. **** god damn DLC, let the community create it's very own mod/addon. Help them do so, communicate and share. Start caring about the PC like it was before. Make consoles users pay for DLC, as they have no way to mod their game anyway...I honestly don't give a ****.

I know, I'm dreaming, it will never happen.
Winner...

You sir have cracked the cashcow secret. M$ stumbled onto this gem years ago, and PC dev's are beginning to falter to these ways. I mean has anyone played TF2 recently holy sh*tballs!!!! I still like valve, but wow.

And people wonder why PC gamers are usually pissed off.

words
Stopped reading when I realized you were an idiot.

whats wrong with PC gamers? Do you think PC gamers are any different now then they were 12 years ago?

Maybe something else is afoot, something to the effect of Crysis 2 being 2011's big disappointment?

Fanboy alert!

Your words are total crap. You don't need $4k to have good stuff.

$700 - $1500 will do.


Don't type these stuff up if you don't know what you're talking about.

Not only that, Crysis 2 can run on a cheap net book, which speaks volumes on it's processing requirements.

Um... Play the first game and you will stand in aw at how dumb you look to the rest of us... Seriously... Just go play Xbox...

Totally agree with the Original Poster, played single-player all the way through the first day I got this game( bit short if you ask me, but Multi was still awaiting me). I have only been able to play multi-player every other day (because of network connectivity bug going on and off for some reason, suspect it is to do with my mobile broadband), but the time i have spent playing it, on servers without blatant Warp 5 invisible aim-botting hackers(which were hard to find on the first day or five) has been awesome. Really like the gameplay, brings a decent twist to some of the other modern FPS's out there. Overall, quite happy with the product, slightly miffed that such a decent game has been dragged down by being released in such an "un-polished" state (no advanced graphics options, quite a few multi-player "game-stopper" bugs) but still enjoyed the game a good deal so far, with more to come when Multi-player is more reliable.

Man I am getting sick of having to say this. OP is once again either a great troll, which I doubt, or one of the many herping retards that got PC gaming in the state it is today. To even attempt to justify this game as something other than exactly what it is, a corporate EA cash in, goes beyond mere downs to a whole new level of dead nerve endings and brain tissue.

Its just pathetic, both the state of the gaming industry as a whole, and the state of the inbred tools that worship it. I am well aware that complete and overwhelming logic is no match for the sheer amounts of stupid oozing from your every pore OP, but heres a list of why your wrong anyways.

-Crytec + EA lied, and purposely misled buyers to boost sales. This is called fraud if your not a multi-billion dollar corporation. If you are, its called good marketings. All we consumers can do is whine about it here, in the hopes of accomplishing something.
-You dont need a $4000 computer to run DX11, you need a $1500 computer. Also when crysis 1 came out it was actually much harder to run it on max, but not only did we in the PC community love the challenge of building PC to run it, we also HAD THE OPTION TO RUN IT AT LOWER SETTINGS...
-Not all anti-cheat works 100% of the time, but VAC and PB work very well, and make it a lot more difficult or expensive to hack the game. It is a deterrent more than anything else. There is absolutely no excuse at all not to include one of these for you upcoming PC multiplayer game. No 99% of people are not hacking, just 1 out of every 3 servers has a hacker and that is totally unacceptable and make the game far less fun / immersive when you have to be continually swapping servers looking for games not only w/ low ping, but w/o hackers. CoD had about 1 in every 100 servers w/ a hacker as an example.
-Bugs happen, you cannot catch them all. Most games come out with a lot of bugs sure. BUT THESE BUGS ARE BEYOND RETARDED GAME BRAKING AND EASILY CAUGHT IN A BETA AND FIXED. Ex. Nano upgrades not saving in SP, or even not being able to log into the game. In MP nothing saves, connection bugs, crash to desktop, ect. This is worse than some game I've beta'd and I payed $60 for this POS.
-No one thought this was a console port because of just the DX11 issue, it was that (small part) + the following (large part): Retarded AI, Dumbed down gameplay, no prone, bad pc controls, no graphics options, poor story writing / script / plot and was obviously written for 15 year olds in the bottom 1/2 of their classes, EA was involved, terrible UI, terrible multiplayer UI, terrible multiplayer support, innumerable bugs and issues only on PC and not on consoles, very little to no help from EA / crytec for PC related problems, CRYSIS 1 HAD BETTER GRAPHICS, and last but not least "press enter to begin...."

Want to see what a good PC game looks like when it comes out? Go re-install crysis 1 and dont patch it. Then compare the 2x. CASE....IN....POINT.
I believe I speak for everyone with at least 1/2 of their brain still functioning when I say I hope the OP and all his ilk remove themselves from the gene pool as swiftly (and hopefully brutally) as possible.
Thank you.

P.S. once again this isn't to say the game is not fun, but rather its so very very very very much worse than it could have been.


Sadly, this post and many others present incredible evidence that the PC community, specifically this game's PC community, is indeed absolutely atrocious, as someone else on this thread said. You're not helping get your point across by firing ad-hominems at people all day.

Thank you, Vally, OP, and others, for showing some courtesy and professionalism on these forums. It is inviting to see.

I have my complaints about the game, too, but I think constructive criticism backed by arguments that present logic instead of fallacious ad-hominems is what this community needs. It'd be nice if we could team up as a community instead of attacking each other.

Ehhhhhhhhhh...

The amount of work that goes into developing an engine can take 3 years or more. Sure, they had high budget, sure, they had an amazing composer etc. etc., but what it boils down to is the amount of work that is required to make it work on all 3 systems. All of the systems experience the same bugs regardless. Yeah, it'd be nice to not have to develop on DX9, but I'd rather have DX10 over DX11, since a majority of the hardware doesn't support DX11. Yeah, it looks prettier, but tbfh, it's not much of a difference over DX10. My only gripes with the visuals are this: the game's SUPERBLOOM. I have to turn down the in-game brightness and change the bloom settings in the config just to not be blinded by its ridiculously high bloom in some areas. Yeah, it's bright as hell IRL, but it doesn't have bloom like that. The white textures show up ridiculously white. I personally think that the post-processing on some of the levels needs to be adjusted to reduce the bloom. I find that the actual gameplay itself is great, but please....

tl;dr
Crytek needs to GET RID OF THE SUPERBLOOM. I'll stick with the 1.7 graphics config until then.

And: cheating is an age-old problem with games, been around ever since the inception of online multiplayer, yeah... we're looking at you, quake. GOD MODE indeed.

If I went back to quake or something, I'd probably pick up tons of problems with it too. It's just that our expectations have been raised for games.

Man I am getting sick of having to say this. OP is once again either a great troll, which I doubt, or one of the many herping retards that got PC gaming in the state it is today. To even attempt to justify this game as something other than exactly what it is, a corporate EA cash in, goes beyond mere downs to a whole new level of dead nerve endings and brain tissue.

Its just pathetic, both the state of the gaming industry as a whole, and the state of the inbred tools that worship it. I am well aware that complete and overwhelming logic is no match for the sheer amounts of stupid oozing from your every pore OP, but heres a list of why your wrong anyways.

-Crytec + EA lied, and purposely misled buyers to boost sales. This is called fraud if your not a multi-billion dollar corporation. If you are, its called good marketings. All we consumers can do is whine about it here, in the hopes of accomplishing something.
-You dont need a $4000 computer to run DX11, you need a $1500 computer. Also when crysis 1 came out it was actually much harder to run it on max, but not only did we in the PC community love the challenge of building PC to run it, we also HAD THE OPTION TO RUN IT AT LOWER SETTINGS...
-Not all anti-cheat works 100% of the time, but VAC and PB work very well, and make it a lot more difficult or expensive to hack the game. It is a deterrent more than anything else. There is absolutely no excuse at all not to include one of these for you upcoming PC multiplayer game. No 99% of people are not hacking, just 1 out of every 3 servers has a hacker and that is totally unacceptable and make the game far less fun / immersive when you have to be continually swapping servers looking for games not only w/ low ping, but w/o hackers. CoD had about 1 in every 100 servers w/ a hacker as an example.
-Bugs happen, you cannot catch them all. Most games come out with a lot of bugs sure. BUT THESE BUGS ARE BEYOND RETARDED GAME BRAKING AND EASILY CAUGHT IN A BETA AND FIXED. Ex. Nano upgrades not saving in SP, or even not being able to log into the game. In MP nothing saves, connection bugs, crash to desktop, ect. This is worse than some game I've beta'd and I payed $60 for this POS.
-No one thought this was a console port because of just the DX11 issue, it was that (small part) + the following (large part): Retarded AI, Dumbed down gameplay, no prone, bad pc controls, no graphics options, poor story writing / script / plot and was obviously written for 15 year olds in the bottom 1/2 of their classes, EA was involved, terrible UI, terrible multiplayer UI, terrible multiplayer support, innumerable bugs and issues only on PC and not on consoles, very little to no help from EA / crytec for PC related problems, CRYSIS 1 HAD BETTER GRAPHICS, and last but not least "press enter to begin...."

Want to see what a good PC game looks like when it comes out? Go re-install crysis 1 and dont patch it. Then compare the 2x. CASE....IN....POINT.
I believe I speak for everyone with at least 1/2 of their brain still functioning when I say I hope the OP and all his ilk remove themselves from the gene pool as swiftly (and hopefully brutally) as possible.
Thank you.

P.S. once again this isn't to say the game is not fun, but rather its so very very very very much worse than it could have been.


Sadly, this post and many others present incredible evidence that the PC community, specifically this game's PC community, is indeed absolutely atrocious, as someone else on this thread said. You're not helping get your point across by firing ad-hominems at people all day.

Thank you, Vally, OP, and others, for showing some courtesy and professionalism on these forums. It is inviting to see.

I have my complaints about the game, too, but I think constructive criticism backed by arguments that present logic instead of fallacious ad-hominems is what this community needs. It'd be nice if we could team up as a community instead of attacking each other.


The OP points/arguments are so freaking dumb and filled with blatant ignorance, as an experienced PC gamer, I would say it's near impossible not simply rage at him. After reading his post again (and again) I'm still not sure if someone can truly be that herpaderp retarded. It's nice to have constructive criticism, true, but the OP made this nearly impossible by spewing such big amount of **** and ignorance.

Seriously, at what point did PC gamers become stuck up self opinionated idiots who expect the world from a day 1 product... This entire forum section is filled with complaining and biching about a over all well done game, posts and whines from ungrateful idiots who seem to have forgotten exactly what PC gaming is supposed to be all about: Actual game play.

Calling a game a console port due to having a older version of Direct X, even though it A: Looks better then its DX10 predecessor and console versions, and B: Runs better and faster on PC's, is rather a lame argument. So what if Crytek actually hired some programmers who knew what the hell they were doing for once and made a game that don't need a computer built by NASA to run yet still looked and ran better then most other 'console' engines. DX11 isn't a big priority for them, not because PC gaming isn't a big priority, but because 94.4% of computer users don't have $4000 PC's filled to the brim with 20GB and 4 graphic cards that can take full of use of the overall, small increase in visuals (There are more people on DX8 and below then DX 11). The fact that the aforementioned $4000 PC isn't needed to run Crysis 2 isn't a sign of a console port, it's a sign of competent programmers. Anyone who's played CoD knows what a ported engine runs like... (Heck there are several PC engines that run worse then this)

And anti cheat doesn't work, the day someone makes a hack free FPS, will be the day the same company also cures world hunger and several kinds of cancer. Punkbuster doesn't work, VAC doesn't work, practically every anti-cheat system created doesn't work. It isn't that Crytek hates all Pc gamers, just on such a moddable system making something hack free is impossible (If the pentagon can't stop people looking at their secrets, what chance does a game company have again?). Yes a few of the exploits are a little laughable, but at the same time not uncommon. Even a year odd after it's release there was a certain console command in Left 4 Dead that allowed you to stop a versus game in its tracks without owning the server, and Valve are hardly a 'consolized' company.

And a side note to this, looking at a lot of the 'claims', 99% of the people you claim to be hacking, are just better then you. In practically every FPS these kinds of claims are flung around by little minded people who can't accept that someone might just have more skill then them.

As for the constant bug claims: PC development isn't easy, and a lot of network issues are the fault of the user. PC games will have, and always have had hardware related bugs, due to the fact there are so many variable to program for. Some are worse then others, but as games go the first week of Crysis 2 hasn't been bad (Had slight connection issues myself, and a weird shader issue where my screen occasionally goes black.)

This unneeded negativity over anything that seems even similar to the consoles is rather annoying, consolization in MOST cases is a good thing; like most people who aren't living with their parents, I rather like the ability to play new games without upgrading my computer every 3 months (AKA Crysis 1), and streamlining complex controls is hardly a bad thing (Just because something is harder, doesn't make it more skilled). The only issue that may arise is game play, which if people would stop frothing with rage for 5 seconds, would realize hasn't been. I couldn't really imagine using the entire nano-suit + additional movement techniques to the best ability on a controller, and rather then most consolized games where shooting in the general direction is a good tactic, here actual aiming is rewarded, with head shots doing far more damage, something I can't see people making full use of with a controller.

In summary, regardless of what you thought, this isn't anything new, even before the console era. PC's are hard to develop for and will have bugs due to their modability, anti-cheat systems don't work, and bears are on occasion known to **** in woods. Either stop playing the game and go back to whatever game you think does all these wondrous things from a day 1 release (And tell me what it is so I can play it), or just stop the constant self entitled whining.

Ranting over, before I make myself feel old by mentioning 'gamers these days' and how they need to spend more time off my lawn....

I'm glad there's one individual left out there that can see through the ****. Half the people here don't even know WHY they're arguing. They've just related to a few posts so they jump the bandwagon. It's **** embarrassing, not only for them but for me. To think I'm apart of a community that has NO CLUE how anything works at all. I guess when I make the assumption console has more kid gamers, I'm mistaken. There are so many immature, ill-minded kids on here.

Props for taking the time to write all that out. You touched on a lot of good points. It's too bad you'll get mouth breathing idiots that won't even read it all but will still insult you. Yet another contradiction. It's a joke.

THIS IS STILL GOING ON!!!!

OMFG is this a joke? Really people that don't play PC games have NO right what so ever to post in here riping on PC gamers. You sir are BS.

You want to buy a car thats not finished? You want to buy a TV that only works sometimes? you want a half cooked meal from a restaurant?

use your brain... please... just a little.

It's no joke.

I've been playing PC games continually for the past 10 years - including SC: Brood War, MOHAA, BF1942, etc... I think that's enough experience to merit my posting on these forums.

I don't like buying anything that's unfinished - and I definitely think there are unfinished elements to this game. The lack of graphics options, lack of good anti-cheat measures, single player bugs, multiplayer bugs.... There are plenty of things I think could have been improved on pre-release.

However, those things do not negate the game's extremely well optimized engine (especially compared to Crysis 1, which I also was a big fan of) and its good gameplay. The original Crysis was obviously an awesome benchmarking tool and a rare treat visually speaking, but its multiplayer was, in my opinion, mediocre. The single player was uber - considering its sandbox style play and the freedom it gave you, but the multiplayer was lacking in terms of performance and overall enjoyability, I think.

I'm sure there are those who think differently, and that's fine, but I think Crysis 2's multiplayer is definitely more fun than the first game's (it would be nice to have Power Struggle and vehicle maps, though), and the original game's single player is more fun overall than Crysis 2's.

I don't know all the details of the alleged promises Crytek made and such so I won't comment on that but I am hopeful that they will patch the game soon and patch it thoroughly. It is distressing that I paid $60 for a game with this many bugs upon release, but I think, all things considered, we should be both constructively critical and supportive of Crytek and this game.

critique the people that critique a bad game
that's dumb

Okay first of all, the word is thAn, not thEn. When you use sentences like "I like this rather than that", or "That guy is better than you," you use the word than, not then. My God that was annoying to read. Second of all: And a side note to this, looking at a lot of the 'claims', 99% of the people you claim to be hacking, are just better then you.
Really? 99%? You counted all of them and got this accurate statistic? Oh, and I just want to be clear...what you're telling me is that aaaallllllllllll of these people my friends and I see, who never have to reload, or stay permanently cloaked regardless of them attacking, they're all just better thAn us? Gotcha. Just making sure we're on the same page. I can't wait until I get good enough to be able to attack while staying permanently cloaked...

Good reading, I can understand your point but, there are some points need to be corrected.

For graphic part, I don't have much to say as I am almost contented with great looking, smooth running visual, except for possible DX11 features, Nvidia paid crytek for DX11 support, ain it?

and for hacking part, it's pretty serious unlike your 99% of claims being self imagination.

I've seen more hackers using aimbots, ESP, shooting while cloaking, speed hack users than any AAA titles upon release.

Call of duty modern warfare 2 didn't have this many hackers when it was first released.

I don't know what happened with battlefield bad company 2 first few months of release, but now there are server admin kick authority, and punkbuster 2 kicking almost every MULTIHACK, weird hack programs, it's almost hacker free now.
(seriously, I never seen hacker online BFBC2 till now.)


It's really great that crytek is taking cheaters seriously and banning them forever, I can much more appreciate well made multiplayer now.

And a bit excessive complaints over features that might be caused by user's faults, these kinds of things are also somewhat needed to push developer to make patches, or the problems might be just ignored or take much more time that actual users lose their interest in game.

Seriously, at what point did PC gamers become stuck up self opinionated idiots who expect the world from a day 1 product... This entire forum section is filled with complaining and biching about a over all well done game, posts and whines from ungrateful idiots who seem to have forgotten exactly what PC gaming is supposed to be all about: Actual game play.


LOL are you an employee of Crytek?Overall well done game.You gotta be kidding.

Go home troll.

We bich about a complete broken game not about a really good game with some tiny tiny bugs noone cares about.

overall well done!!!??? the problems are such to were the campaign is barley even playable.

I think people pick apart these new releases too much.

It's my second day, and I've had no problems. At all.

Well they had 3 betas 2/3 had problems that were NOT resolved, they spent the last few years working on in, i expect it to work properly when it comes out. even now there are still kinks and such, some people could call it "Bad good old fashioned BAD!"

Seriously, at what point did PC gamers become stuck up self opinionated idiots who expect the world from a day 1 product... This entire forum section is filled with complaining and biching about a over all well done game, posts and whines from ungrateful idiots who seem to have forgotten exactly what PC gaming is supposed to be all about: Actual game play.

And of course in East Cupcake IL. gamers can't have pretty visuals AND game-play value, right? Look, nobody cares what your tired ass thinks, so go back to not having a life and playing with yourself.

Jesus, I don't think I've ever seen this many lickspittles in one forum. The corporate boys rip us ALL off and these jackasses think we should be "grateful" for the privilege.

Well they had 3 betas 2/3 had problems that were NOT resolved, they spent the last few years working on in, i expect it to work properly when it comes out. even now there are still kinks and such, some people could call it "Bad good old fashioned BAD!"

This is one thing that people don't understand.

No game is perfect when it releases. Every game has bugs, no matter how extensive the testing and no matter how extensive the development. Sometimes it takes upwards to about a week, or to an entire month, just to fix these issues and make the game playable for everyone.

I'd expect to be able to play multiplayer after 11 days of launch..