i dont think it is too much to ask for a game to be finnished before it is relesed ..It is finished. The game and all it's content is there.

@Mad0ne - Really? What did they initially demonstrate that's such a step forward from what's been finally released? I think the whole 'It was supposed to be 10x better' comment comes from people's expectations, especially considering Crysis 1 is still such a beast as far as graphics are concerned. I think it's just a case of people expecting Crysis 2 to be this game that can't be run on full settings for another five years, and instead we got a game that's designed to be run on current hardware, not be a system killer like the first one.


do you really say its finished game if FOR **** SAKES CATALYSTS GET DELETED IN SINGLE PLAYER GAME?

this is your finished game? are you really fckn serious dude?

so y the **** is it only happening on PC???

crysis 1 sold 3 million in retailIt took Crysis 1 a year to reach 1 million sales.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/99063-25-crysis-sales-exceed-million

It went platinum on Q3 2008. The game launched in 2007 AFAIK?

@Emperorcleon - Why is what only happening on the PC version, the hacking? The multiplayer issues? I think the Xbox 360 version was also having multiplayer login issues, and it certainly still has the draw distance/pop-in issues. The hacking is down to accessibility - You have to have a JTagged console to hack on Xbox Live, and they get banned faster than you can count to five.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNw81NLEFCg

look this vid..

where IS IT? it even didnt made to consoles.. as its clearly promo for engine what can do "this" on consoles...

where the fck is it?

Advanced AI that basically is so stupid that they kill themselves?

do you really say its finished game if FOR **** SAKES CATALYSTS GET DELETED IN SINGLE PLAYER GAME?

this is your finished game? are you really fckn serious dude?There's a difference between a game being finished, and a game being launched with bugs.

A game launching unfinished would be missing core content such as level and not being able to complete the game. That's what I would call unfinished.

The nano-catalyst disappearing is a bug. Games have launched with bugs for years and years.

I know it's not an excuse, so to speak, but to go to such a drastic extent and say it's 'unfinished' is making a mountain out of a mole hill a little bit.

Also, in response to the youtube video you've posted - Those features are actually in the game. On the AI situation, enemies will dive into cover and find cover against you. But yes, I see your point in that the rest of the AI scripting is pretty poor.

The other things such as colour grading, deformation, lighting, visual effects, they're all in. Nothing's missing as far as I'm aware? (Of course, i'm free to be proven wrong here. I'm not claiming to be 100% correct in everything)

My biggest problem with the game, is that it was made for CONSOLES, after they said it would be made first and foremost for PC.

Remember the demo? "Press Start to Begin" and "Adjust your TV settings"? and no advanced graphics options... No slider bar to adjust that ghastly motion-blur.

All of that aside, it's a great game, great atmosphere, very fun gameplay, the graphics still look awesome too. It's still Crysis at heart, and a part of me is glad that console gamers can finally experience Crysis, even though it's is a far cry behind original Crysis.

VallyStyle: its jsut how you take it.

I personally can not accept game as finished when it has such flaws.

It's beta.

PC version of game is just BETA!

LMAO WHAT A THREAD!!!

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crytek clearly didnt spend enuf time on pc sku. They were hoping to ride on their past popularity. THis is dishonest. Taking ppl's money are providing them with subpar experience is not acceptable and I am glad that this is providing bad press to EA/Crytek causing them to sell less pc verions

Their lazyness or dishonestly should not be rewarded

Crysis was NEVER about gameplay, it has always been about amazing visuals.

We got a dumb [for not saying anything stronger, much more offensive] here. Have you ever heard of DX11 benchmark programs? Those are about amazing visuals. A game must be about GAMEplay, if you make a **** gameplay, specially multiplayer, you're a adding another boring title to FPS genre. Of course graphics come as a standard nowadays, which the minimum standard is already fullfilled. Crysis is not about a game a whole generation played, a long time existing franchise, if you consider stadisticly something is not having the desired response, you take decisions to experiment and try to attract more people. Must of the friends I know don't like to much Crysis [not warhead/wars] MP because of the extremely huge maps and the noobish cloak, wait and kill from behind with almost no way to counter it. Here you've got the module to do so.

crytek clearly didnt spend enuf time on pc sku. They were hoping to ride on their past popularity. THis is dishonest. Taking ppl's money are providing them with subpar experience is not acceptable and I am glad that this is providing bad press to EA/Crytek causing them to sell less pc verions

Their lazyness or dishonestly should not be rewardedWell, that's opinion. I'm personally absolutely loving the Crysis 2 experience.

Hi,

Couple of sayings for you:

Banging your head against a brick wall
Pissing against the wind "always come's back at you"
Flogging a dead horse

Give up and let the whinney little **** have their way......Because no matter what you say, some little idiot knows better...

Seriously, at what point did PC gamers become stuck up self opinionated idiots who expect the world from a day 1 product... This entire forum section is filled with complaining and biching about a over all well done game, posts and whines from ungrateful idiots who seem to have forgotten exactly what PC gaming is supposed to be all about: Actual game play.

Calling a game a console port due to having a older version of Direct X, even though it A: Looks better then its DX10 predecessor and console versions, and B: Runs better and faster on PC's, is rather a lame argument. So what if Crytek actually hired some programmers who knew what the hell they were doing for once and made a game that don't need a computer built by NASA to run yet still looked and ran better then most other 'console' engines. DX11 isn't a big priority for them, not because PC gaming isn't a big priority, but because 94.4% of computer users don't have $4000 PC's filled to the brim with 20GB and 4 graphic cards that can take full of use of the overall, small increase in visuals (There are more people on DX8 and below then DX 11). The fact that the aforementioned $4000 PC isn't needed to run Crysis 2 isn't a sign of a console port, it's a sign of competent programmers. Anyone who's played CoD knows what a ported engine runs like... (Heck there are several PC engines that run worse then this)

And anti cheat doesn't work, the day someone makes a hack free FPS, will be the day the same company also cures world hunger and several kinds of cancer. Punkbuster doesn't work, VAC doesn't work, practically every anti-cheat system created doesn't work. It isn't that Crytek hates all Pc gamers, just on such a moddable system making something hack free is impossible (If the pentagon can't stop people looking at their secrets, what chance does a game company have again?). Yes a few of the exploits are a little laughable, but at the same time not uncommon. Even a year odd after it's release there was a certain console command in Left 4 Dead that allowed you to stop a versus game in its tracks without owning the server, and Valve are hardly a 'consolized' company.

And a side note to this, looking at a lot of the 'claims', 99% of the people you claim to be hacking, are just better then you. In practically every FPS these kinds of claims are flung around by little minded people who can't accept that someone might just have more skill then them.

As for the constant bug claims: PC development isn't easy, and a lot of network issues are the fault of the user. PC games will have, and always have had hardware related bugs, due to the fact there are so many variable to program for. Some are worse then others, but as games go the first week of Crysis 2 hasn't been bad (Had slight connection issues myself, and a weird shader issue where my screen occasionally goes black.)

This unneeded negativity over anything that seems even similar to the consoles is rather annoying, consolization in MOST cases is a good thing; like most people who aren't living with their parents, I rather like the ability to play new games without upgrading my computer every 3 months (AKA Crysis 1), and streamlining complex controls is hardly a bad thing (Just because something is harder, doesn't make it more skilled). The only issue that may arise is game play, which if people would stop frothing with rage for 5 seconds, would realize hasn't been. I couldn't really imagine using the entire nano-suit + additional movement techniques to the best ability on a controller, and rather then most consolized games where shooting in the general direction is a good tactic, here actual aiming is rewarded, with head shots doing far more damage, something I can't see people making full use of with a controller.

In summary, regardless of what you thought, this isn't anything new, even before the console era. PC's are hard to develop for and will have bugs due to their modability, anti-cheat systems don't work, and bears are on occasion known to **** in woods. Either stop playing the game and go back to whatever game you think does all these wondrous things from a day 1 release (And tell me what it is so I can play it), or just stop the constant self entitled whining.

Ranting over, before I make myself feel old by mentioning 'gamers these days' and how they need to spend more time off my lawn....

@waldemar2

its true. the story in the first one was terrible, voice acting was awful, story was predictable etc. if the game did not have the visuals it would not have sold nearly as much. the visuals was one of the main attractions to the game. everything else was just bad.


get the **** off here dude, go to your call of duty. Crysis has some of the best gameplay mechanics this gen.

Man I am getting sick of having to say this. OP is once again either a great troll, which I doubt, or one of the many herping retards that got PC gaming in the state it is today. To even attempt to justify this game as something other than exactly what it is, a corporate EA cash in, goes beyond mere downs to a whole new level of dead nerve endings and brain tissue.

Its just pathetic, both the state of the gaming industry as a whole, and the state of the inbred tools that worship it. I am well aware that complete and overwhelming logic is no match for the sheer amounts of stupid oozing from your every pore OP, but heres a list of why your wrong anyways.

-Crytec + EA lied, and purposely misled buyers to boost sales. This is called fraud if your not a multi-billion dollar corporation. If you are, its called good marketings. All we consumers can do is whine about it here, in the hopes of accomplishing something.
-You dont need a $4000 computer to run DX11, you need a $1500 computer. Also when crysis 1 came out it was actually much harder to run it on max, but not only did we in the PC community love the challenge of building PC to run it, we also HAD THE OPTION TO RUN IT AT LOWER SETTINGS...
-Not all anti-cheat works 100% of the time, but VAC and PB work very well, and make it a lot more difficult or expensive to hack the game. It is a deterrent more than anything else. There is absolutely no excuse at all not to include one of these for you upcoming PC multiplayer game. No 99% of people are not hacking, just 1 out of every 3 servers has a hacker and that is totally unacceptable and make the game far less fun / immersive when you have to be continually swapping servers looking for games not only w/ low ping, but w/o hackers. CoD had about 1 in every 100 servers w/ a hacker as an example.
-Bugs happen, you cannot catch them all. Most games come out with a lot of bugs sure. BUT THESE BUGS ARE BEYOND RETARDED GAME BRAKING AND EASILY CAUGHT IN A BETA AND FIXED. Ex. Nano upgrades not saving in SP, or even not being able to log into the game. In MP nothing saves, connection bugs, crash to desktop, ect. This is worse than some game I've beta'd and I payed $60 for this POS.
-No one thought this was a console port because of just the DX11 issue, it was that (small part) + the following (large part): Retarded AI, Dumbed down gameplay, no prone, bad pc controls, no graphics options, poor story writing / script / plot and was obviously written for 15 year olds in the bottom 1/2 of their classes, EA was involved, terrible UI, terrible multiplayer UI, terrible multiplayer support, innumerable bugs and issues only on PC and not on consoles, very little to no help from EA / crytec for PC related problems, CRYSIS 1 HAD BETTER GRAPHICS, and last but not least "press enter to begin...."

Want to see what a good PC game looks like when it comes out? Go re-install crysis 1 and dont patch it. Then compare the 2x. CASE....IN....POINT.
I believe I speak for everyone with at least 1/2 of their brain still functioning when I say I hope the OP and all his ilk remove themselves from the gene pool as swiftly (and hopefully brutally) as possible.
Thank you.

P.S. once again this isn't to say the game is not fun, but rather its so very very very very much worse than it could have been.

Crysis 2 in itself isn't bad, it's that I haven't been able to use the whole of it so far. Multiplayer still is unplayable since I can't log in. Singleplayer has a few quirks and bugs that cause issues with progression (beatable, yes.. but at the cost of the neat toys the NS2 allows), and from what I recall the promised anti-cheat wasn't there day zero, and is pretty feeble even now.

I can't play multiplayer, yet people are in and able to cheat as much as they want with different illegitimate keys.

Just because someone is acknowledging the fact that Crysis had an unoriginal and predictable story doesn't mean he likes Call of Duty, it just means he has a brain. Crysis 1's gameplay however was great.

@waldemar2

its true. the story in the first one was terrible, voice acting was awful, story was predictable etc. if the game did not have the visuals it would not have sold nearly as much. the visuals was one of the main attractions to the game. everything else was just bad.


get the **** off here dude, go to your call of duty. Crysis has some of the best gameplay mechanics this gen.

so am i not entitled to my opinion? call of duty also svcks, and worse that Crysis.

I guess fanboys like yourself do not like when people who have there opinions that are not the same as yours.

I totally aggree to the starting post, everyone that blame this game so much should get together and make an own(maybe with the upcoming sanbox 3?) and then the whole community should rate it and say what they thing right into their face, cmon do it! you get as much time as crytek needed to make crysis 2, would be interesting, if you know everything so much better and if you think you know where the problems are and if you think it so damn horrible, then PLEASE HELP US AND MAKE A BETTER ONE. when i see how you talk about this game i have to think that you may think that you know how to make it better...THEN SHOW IT!!!

ill do, give me 3 years and 7 millions dollars. thats roughly what crytek had.

+1

The atrocious community here makes me shameful to call myself a PC gamer, the majority of you all have this elitist mentality that you are entitled to have certain things in a game and go off spouting false claims of it being like Call of Duty or claiming it is a console port. Reading some of the posts around here I feel as though none of you people played the game it was meant to be played, and just skimmed through the game without paying attention to anything so you can label it as what its not.

The atrocious community here makes me shameful to call myself a PC gamer, the majority of you all have this elitist mentality that you are entitled to have certain things in a game and go off spouting false claims of it being like Call of Duty or claiming it is a console port. Reading some of the posts around here I feel as though none of you people played the game it was meant to be played, and just skimmed through the game without paying attention to anything so you can label it as what its not.

we are the consumer so yes we are entitled to certain things in the game. i am entitled to a game that works.

No argument there, king of sand, but what I'm getting at is those who feel that they're entitled to have a game that has gameplay elements they desire rather than those found in the product. Among other things.

@OP

I love how they had to change the "press Start" in the PC demo". I searched for the damn "start" button on my keyboard but could never find it. Maybe, just maybe, it's because it was originally made for console with a controller? Must be our imagination, right?

Also, look under the brightness setting, it mention a TV instead of a monitor. I don't know about you, but most PC gamer (if not all) play on a freaking monitor.

Wait, you're right, this isn't a console port. Just look at the graphic option, you can adjust brightness (yay) and switch from Gamer, Casual and hardcoe? That's all. Is this some sort of permanent April fool? That alone, is totally unacceptable for a freaking FPS coming out in 2011. This is quite frankly the most laughable graphic customization I have ever encounter on the PC. There is NO excuse for this.

No anti-cheating measure on release date? C'mon now, another bad joke? An FPS as popular as Crysis, coming out in 2011 with no anti-cheat? For **** sake what kind of retards work for Crytek? I'm sorry, but I'll gladly take Punkbuster, it's still better then freaking NOTHING. Sure people still manage to somehow cheat with PB enabled game, but it does stop/kick/ban/discourage a lots of hacker. No vote kick? No admin kick? Really now? I don't know where you been all those years, but an FPS on the PC where you can't even vote kick a hacker (even as admin of your own god damn server) is just pure FAIL.

Also, "99% of the people you claim to be hacking, are just better then you", you have to be trolling? Have you even played the game online, at all? Are you just retarded? Casual baddie? I guess running around at 300% speed, permanently cloaked (doesn't wear off after shooting) make them better the us? I've been around the FPS scene since the original Counter-Strike and I know when someone is hacking, and I know when someone is simply more skilled then me. You, apparently, don't know the difference.

The last part of your useless **** post is filled with so much crap, fail and ignorance that I now feel dumber after reading it.


tl;dr

OP = IDIOT

nano wonder at point do u think its elitist to want quicksave and customizable graphics ?

All your points would have been well taken if the game actually worked from day one and promises were fullfilled from Crytek. Crysis 2 could have used another six months of development to iron out the bugs. Where is the quality assurance? Was Crysis 2 even tested in crossfire or sli?!?

Im not asking for much by asking for the gameplay elements to work from day one, that is what beta testing is for. Having the multiplayer stop me from leveling up and projecting myself at multiple levels, giving me the options of higher levels and then having them taken away is as far as I see bad developing. Minor glitches like an invisible wall or the occasional server crash or extra content having a few delays is expected but its full of major issues which is why I think people have gone a bit mad, and I agree. The DX11 stuff I couldnt care less about but I would like a solid enough game that doesnt have these ajor issues, it isnt much to ask.