The game of Life

Most recent game I recall is Sacred 2 (2008 or 9?), one of the many Diablo-esque ARPG games. Which, copying Diablo 2, had a "die and you're dead" hardcoe mode.


I'm sure there have been others since, but I'm not aware of them (hmm, I don't recall if Torchlight has that option.....)

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Blegh...

trouble with the censors?

Not as an option I mean having that as the default option and only option.

We're not allowed to discuss certain topics and I'm a very paranoid girl. >_>
Even though it was only a slight joke on no ones expense I felt it was for the better to just edit it out.

hardcoe is basically Real Life mode. Everything has weight and it's hard to heal in the middle of battle. :excl:

Agreed.

In a game like this where a single playthrough can last well over a hundred hours, I don't find anything interesting about getting limited lives.

hardcoe mode to me would be.


Punishment for being intentionally stupid, If I find myself in a situation I know I can't win, but I walked into it just for kicks. I'd be dusted

Ignoring the wellbeing of ones character, face it, we dont really care about our avatars, we juice them up with stims when they're "hurt" and deck them in clothing visually pleasing to us, seperate from what would be useful survival wise to our char not saying have a heart or that one cant be creative with their fool, this is a game after all, but having them need to Eat/drink and sleep on occasion is a useful reminder that our characters existence is limited

Weapons hurt. no im not looking for one shot deaths by pea shooters. but if I have my character running around naked and I recieve a rifle round through the face, unless I have some kind of perk to offset this, my character should be dead, with the likely hood of him/her dying decreasing as you go from torso to limbs

Being crippled really should mean crippled, one should lose 70-80 percent mobility when having 1 crippled leg, 2 crippled leg should negate movement to a complete crawl, a cripled arm should disable sights aiming, while both cripled should send my accuracy out the window, Making it imperative that one utilizes stims for a limited boost to survive the engagement.


Weapons hurt. cannot stress this enough, rather not have a repeat of point look out while blasting knife-weilding tribals with a shotgun and their eating the damage and laughing while choping up maniacally.

This ones 2 cents

I think if I play on hardcoe mode
and I decide to create my 80 year old character
If he falls down, he shouldn't be able to get up.
Thus finally adding LifeAlert to the Fallout franchise

GENUIS!!!

my 2 cents

I agree. The term hardcoe Mode is just there to stroke the egos of those using it, and doesn't convey the proper information or tone about what it actual does. If called Survivalist Mode it would be more apparent to people what exactly was entailed. That immediately communicates differences will be pertaining to survival, and not just a generic impression of things being really difficult like the hardcoe Mode name does now.

Though I am confused as to why the OP thought hardcoe meant "one life to live". The term has never conveyed that meaning to me in games.

And how exactly a developer died 60 seconds into a game using hardcoe Mode is beyond me. Sounds like PR hype to establish how "extreme" "bad ass" and "bragging-rights awesome" hardcoe Mode is to me. "This ain't your parent's Fallout 3 game, kiddies! This is hardcoe." <_<

man, just go with it. they couldve used a better term than hardcoe, but take it to me that its different from the vanilla game (wher eating, drinking and sleeping and weightless ammunition and were no problem and healing was instantaneous)

Well, to be honest I met a deathclaw during the first 10 minutes of playing fallout 3 and died because of it.
But 60 seconds?
Either the dev was not used to the gameplay mechanics or he/she just had real real bad luck like I did with the deathclaw.
Or it's just a hype.

When I've heard of a mode/playstyle that you play until you die, it was called Ironman.

Left 4 Dead 2 mutation?

I think I recall reading somewhere that when the dev tried the hardcoe mode
they had a slight problem with the dehydration meter where it decreased at an extremly rapid rate
until the dev died from dehydration within 60 seconds.

Man I wish I could remember where I read that....maybe I do have A.D.D :twirl:

Sometimes it feels like someone is going around moving NMA and wikia's news.
Been several times where I know I read something and when I try to find the source I end up emptyhanded.
Seems like we've got http://theshoegame.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/gizmo-gremlins-picture.jpg.

hardcoe mode just means it will be more challenging and thus more satisfying/relieved once you succeed.

I think people call dying without reloading and just restarting is just called 'dead is dead.'

I think they should have just called it Challenge or Survival(as said above) mode.

They did this and we'd have a Broken Zombie DLC on our hands.

Exactly. That's the word I was looking for. And you're right. Every time I have heard of a mode where dead meant perma-death it was called Ironman.


This makes more sense. If this is true, the story was told as a humorous anecdote of how they had some bugs to work out in the beginning.

I believe it was called "hardcoe" mode in Diablo 2 - die and you're dead.



....yep, just checked my D2 manual. There's a little hardcoe checkbox when you create a new character - pick that, and you just have the one life. /shrug


I've mostly only seen that kind of thing in hack-n-slash games. Not in real RPGs.

I think calling it hardcoe mode has added more confusion than it should to it... They should have called it "Super Fun Happy Good Time, Doesn't Change Difficulty Level, Eating, Sleeping, Things Have Weight Mode." Much easier to understand.

Has anyone played Diablo II? I know this term was used 10 years ago. I never herd any game and I do read lots of reviews, and not one has mentioned Hard Core mode. The last time I read it was in Diablo. If you read Oblivion or Morrowin and even Fallout 3 threads, some of them mentione Hard Core mode. Some do mention Iron Man but usually I always read Hard Core. I guess this is a new term. I never herd it mentioned until today reading a FNV thread.

Well thanks guys for explaining it to me. I have lernt something new.

I am not shure if anything new can be addd to this now, so if a mod feels this needs to be locked since my quesiton has been asked, please go ahead.

All my FO3 saves have Very Easy mode on them...

I noticed in one of the recent interviews that there is an achievement for completing the game in hardcoe Mode without changing the difficulty. I wonder if this means it can be done on Very Easy as long as you don't up that difficulty slider to Easy part way through. Haha.

If you CAN get the achievement for hardcoe Mode using Very Easy difficulty, that may mean that hardcoe Mode has some real teeth to it, as the achievement is no small one, netting the player a whopping 100 points out the 1000 available for achievements.