Seriously, what was the reason? Was it worth it pissing off all the PC gamers with a flawed, broken and useless game just so you can satisfy a release date promise? I can say with 500% certainty that we could all forget about a, i don't know, 1 month delay if the game arrived with DX11 graphics, proper settings, less bugs, anti-cheat system and polished online experience and more PC only features, all this delivered out of the box.
I know some would be complaining over delay but they would forget about it after few minutes of playing the game. But if we look at the current situation, you're trying to extinguish a forest fire with a cup of water.
You keep on throwing water with the cup on fire but the fire keeps on burning just the same.
Every idiot with 5 grams of brain can see that Crysis 2 was and still is a massive failure. You can't fix a **** initial experience by any update or fix. You just can't.

From my point, the game is useless. I have one bug (random continuous yelling of soldiers that aren't even around) that's so annoying that i stopped playing it, i won't even bother with multi since there are all cheaters and with hacked stats. What's the point then? I've just gone playing old Half-Life:Source instead... how desperate is that?

money.

Pretty sure the community wouldve been pissed if they didnt...

-fuzz

I wouldn't have been pissed fuzzDET. I'd rather a polished game than a buggy pile of ****.

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You mean that bug? Yeah, it almost ruined everything. I went into option though and turned off dialogue, left the music and sound effects on. Worked nicely and got me through the rest of the level. It is without a doubt the most annoying bug I've ever seen in a game.

As far as pissing on PC gamers, well it doesn't really matter does it? They haven't lost any money relative to the first game. In fact, I bet they made a LOT more money this time around because of the console releases. I'm sure the 360 and PS3 brought in buckets of cash and that was the whole reason for releasing console versions. They are smiling right now, and I would be too. I suppose the PC audience was expendable considering the consoles probably made them more money.

I don't mind not having DX11 because the game looks good, but it seems like a step backwards in many ways because the game is obviously consolized from the gameplay to the lack of detail in the visuals. The visuals are very nice in a few ways though. The graphics are very clean, at least on my pc, very smooth framerate, etc.. Though it lacks on detail in the models and environments compared to the first game, some of the environments are epic in scope. I have to say though that it isn't the best looking game on the PC. Just a really good looking one for being DX9.

So quality of visuals have been compromised overall to cater to the console market, but they made much more money this time no doubt. Money talks more than graphics do unfortunately for us PC gamers.

Because the Crysis community was pissing and moaning that the game was taking so long to develop.

I don't really think the PC community would be pissed, in fact the single thing that we've always said regarding Crysis 2, is please make sure it's not a console port. If Crytek simply told us, "PC version will come in 1-2 months, this way we can make sure it's a real PC version and not a port." a few people would've been irritated, but on the whole we'd accept it.

It's interesting to see that the Crytek defenders have toned down very quickly after this release. I don't see too much reason to hate crytek right now, apart from lack of anti-cheat; although I think that the lack of updates from Crytek, especially no word on whether or not we'll get DX11 and advanced graphics options (just tell us, even if it's a no), is quite quickly wearing down the initial support. The game isn't bad, in fact it's a good game, but one thing that is bad is how Crytek is managing the whole situation. You don't provide an information blackout when the community that has helped you build your studio feels as if it has been kicked in the face and left for dead. But... we'll see what happens.

Pretty sure the community wouldve been pissed if they didnt...

-fuzz

Same i wouldnt be pissed at all if they delayed the game 1 month to add those nice extra res touches and more settigs to eliminate the blur in this game.

Also whats up with the retarded ai killing themselves with their own greaneades and aliens staring at you without a clue of what to do. The most laughable part is that big fat ass alien that has a machine gun as well as blue ray gun. He is always getting stuck and glitched and doing nothing, u can go behind his back and smack the 5hit out his ass 20 times before he goes down. This game on veteran was a walk in the park the only good unit which hasnt shown any sign of stupidity the alien titan he seems the only smart ai out of the whole game.

Multiplayer is decent but i would have preferred if they would have taken the Battlefield route and make it like BFBC2 with destructible enviroments. Now that is game ive played 4 times more than all the CODS combined.

I don't really think the PC community would be pissed, in fact the single thing that we've always said regarding Crysis 2, is please make sure it's not a console port. If Crytek simply told us, "PC version will come in 1-2 months, this way we can make sure it's a real PC version and not a port." a few people would've been irritated, but on the whole we'd accept it.

It's interesting to see that the Crytek defenders have toned down very quickly after this release. I don't see too much reason to hate crytek right now, apart from lack of anti-cheat; although I think that the lack of updates from Crytek, especially no word on whether or not we'll get DX11 and advanced graphics options (just tell us, even if it's a no), is quite quickly wearing down the initial support. The game isn't bad, in fact it's a good game, but one thing that is bad is how Crytek is managing the whole situation. You don't provide an information blackout when the community that has helped you build your studio feels as if it has been kicked in the face and left for dead. But... we'll see what happens.

a lot of people say that, but EVERY cysis fansite was moaning that this game is taking to long.

and i dont hate crytek, just a little disappointed with them.

the pc comunity was impatient.. im sure everyone would've understand if they delayed to game to fix bugs and polish them game..

What the hell is it with all this DX11? Does it really matter that much? Bad Company 2 has it and there is no difference in visuals. The First Crysis had DX10 and hardly anyone had the hardware to run it smooth. Graphics IMO look awesome and if they give DX11 support that's cool, if not, fine too. As for the advanced settings - there is a app that can give you access to them - not a reall issue.

The most important thing is to give people the ability to host their own servers and proper admin tools with anticheat. Without thatm the game will be dead in 2 month after Duke, FEAR 3 or some other FPS comes out if not sooner (but judging from the persistance that people still play with cheaters instead of leaing the server it's 2 moths).

One thing I don't get is how games today are released only with quick profit in mind. It's as if all they care about is pre-orders and selling in the first two weeks. In a year from now, noone will remeber this game if it stays the way it is, while Starcraft will make money for the next ten years. Just sad.

Not everyone is as mature as you guys. The same people making all these stupid threads are the same people that wouldve been raging their asses of if the game was delayed even 1 day

-fuzz

Seriously, what was the reason? Was it worth it pissing off all the PC gamers with a flawed, broken and useless game just so you can satisfy a release date promise? I can say with 500% certainty that we could all forget about a, i don't know, 1 month delay if the game arrived with DX11 graphics, proper settings, less bugs, anti-cheat system and polished online experience and more PC only features, all this delivered out of the box.
I know some would be complaining over delay but they would forget about it after few minutes of playing the game. But if we look at the current situation, you're trying to extinguish a forest fire with a cup of water.
You keep on throwing water with the cup on fire but the fire keeps on burning just the same.
Every idiot with 5 grams of brain can see that Crysis 2 was and still is a massive failure. You can't fix a **** initial experience by any update or fix. You just can't.

From my point, the game is useless. I have one bug (random continuous yelling of soldiers that aren't even around) that's so annoying that i stopped playing it, i won't even bother with multi since there are all cheaters and with hacked stats. What's the point then? I've just gone playing old Half-Life:Source instead... how desperate is that?

Hoes,Flows,Moneydoez.

Not everyone is as mature as you guys. The same people making all these stupid threads are the same people that wouldve been raging their asses of if the game was delayed even 1 day

-fuzz

Let 'em rage. If Crytek truly listened to them and caved in to cater to their demands, then they are very foolish in my eyes. I'm sure that if there was communication about the game needing more time, most people would've understood.

Seriously, what was the reason?
Leaked beta was that reason.

I can say with 500% certainty that we could all forget about a, i don't know, 1 month delay if the game arrived with DX11 graphics, proper settings, less bugs, anti-cheat system and polished online experience and more PC only features, all this delivered out of the box.
I guess, all Crysis fans and especially Crysis 2 haters already forgot how many bugs were patched out from the first Crysis. You can find changelog for patch 1.1 here and for patch 1.2 here. Very impressive logs.

I think game wouldn't be able to compete with Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 project in Q4 2011 even with a unique MP. I don't agree that the game was released early, even, maybe the best time it could be. But i don't understand why they released the open MP beta so late and left no time for adjustments, patches. Even MP has no anti-cheat system right now.

Seriously, what was the reason?
Leaked beta was that reason.

I can say with 500% certainty that we could all forget about a, i don't know, 1 month delay if the game arrived with DX11 graphics, proper settings, less bugs, anti-cheat system and polished online experience and more PC only features, all this delivered out of the box.
I guess, all Crysis fans and especially Crysis 2 haters already forgot how many bugs were patched out from the first Crysis. You can find changelog for patch 1.1 here and for patch 1.2 here. Very impressive logs.


leaked beta was leaked on purpose it seems, so every website, forum, was full of that it supported dx 11, and map editor so people would pre order it.

and then remove it so they can sell new maps and such trough my crysis store, why else you think they have a store on the game, just to sell maps and more.

Seriously, what was the reason?
Leaked beta was that reason.

I can say with 500% certainty that we could all forget about a, i don't know, 1 month delay if the game arrived with DX11 graphics, proper settings, less bugs, anti-cheat system and polished online experience and more PC only features, all this delivered out of the box.
I guess, all Crysis fans and especially Crysis 2 haters already forgot how many bugs were patched out from the first Crysis. You can find changelog for patch 1.1 here and for patch 1.2 here. Very impressive logs.

They may 'seem' impressive on first look, but the reality is that the patches (ironically) helped kill the Crysis multiplayer off! I recall patches (1.1 I believe) causing servers to break nearly every single time a round ended. That's only one example out of many. Even the single player was affected to a degree because they made many changes (like nerfed the nano suit).

Pretty sure the community wouldve been pissed if they didnt...

-fuzz

AND if they fixed all the fkin bugs instead of this half-assed crap then half these fkin threads would not fkin exist.

I'm curious as to why this is a big deal?

IF the game is getting patched to include everything you wanted after the release date, what is the difference between you deciding not to play it until then, and them not releasing the pc version until then (i.e. forcing you instead of giving you the choice)? It's the same result, the only difference being you would likely have found something else you didn't like about the patched version you played instead of what you don't like now. Also saying it would only take one month's delay to solve all the issues is a little optimistic isn't it? As someone who followed the "imminent" release of starcraft 2 only to be messed around for several years, I would rather have a game released and patched than a game that disappears over the horizon.

Personally, I seem to be in the magical and unique position of having a game which didn't bug at all throughout my first play through, so for me waiting on a patch won't change much. If DX11 makes a big difference then it just means I will play through again to get a better experience. I'm not trying to stand up for the developers here by the way- after the release of Crysis 2 I've gone from being a fan to just another frustrated PC gamer, and I don't think any number of patches are going to resolve that.

Anyone know how the games sold since release? Would be hard to say it made a large profit compared to Crysis 1, even with console release. Consider production costs, staff costs, advertising even building costs. Then there is shipment etc. In the current economic climate I believe its only a small amount of released games that make an actual profit. And dont forget that EA are behind this also, so Crytek dont see all of the cash made. But at least EA to take some of the sting out of production costs.

Oh and why its released early? EA. Their business model is the more games released, the more money made. Think of them like a film studio, lower production cost, speed up deadlines, more money. As I've said before, same thing happened to Dice with bad company 2, its not a bad business model, as it keeps developers in the black but you should come to expect some bugs, especially now that patches are so easy to roll out on all formats.

Release it, patch it till it works, move onto next money maker.

true EA reck everything fine exsample as a 360 player aswell is Mass Effect 2, 1st one was done soley by bioware and it was amazing the second was garbage EA BACK OFF GREEDY ****

Ken2U wrote:
"I guess, all Crysis fans and especially Crysis 2 haters already forgot how many bugs were patched out from the first Crysis. You can find changelog for patch 1.1 here and for patch 1.2 here. Very impressive logs."

Sorry but that's just not true. Yes, there may have been big patches, but C1 1.0 was an awesome and complete game. To make it clear: I actually made a point of NOT updating because after the first patch the game seemed way easier than before.

With C2 it's more like I have the feeling Crytek should take it back and do it over again to actually make a game that is a worthy successor to C1.

Seriously, what was the reason? Was it worth it pissing off all the PC gamers with a flawed, broken and useless game just so you can satisfy a release date promise? I can say with 500% certainty that we could all forget about a, i don't know, 1 month delay if the game arrived with DX11 graphics, proper settings, less bugs, anti-cheat system and polished online experience and more PC only features, all this delivered out of the box.
I know some would be complaining over delay but they would forget about it after few minutes of playing the game. But if we look at the current situation, you're trying to extinguish a forest fire with a cup of water.
You keep on throwing water with the cup on fire but the fire keeps on burning just the same.
Every idiot with 5 grams of brain can see that Crysis 2 was and still is a massive failure. You can't fix a **** initial experience by any update or fix. You just can't.

From my point, the game is useless. I have one bug (random continuous yelling of soldiers that aren't even around) that's so annoying that i stopped playing it, i won't even bother with multi since there are all cheaters and with hacked stats. What's the point then? I've just gone playing old Half-Life:Source instead... how desperate is that?


Yeah pc gamers have shown their maturity and patience in these forums....I'm sure they would be fine with waiting another month after the console versions were released. I can see it now....


ZOMG!!!!!CRYTEK SOLD OUT AND GAVE THE CONSOLES AN EXCLUSIVE LAUNCH!!!!!FAIL!!!!EPIC FAIL!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!

I think my version is a bit more accurate, I'm almost ashamed to call myself a die hard PC gamer these days. If your 19 and pc game.....don't act like a spoiled friggin brat

Sorry but that's just not true. Yes, there may have been big patches, but C1 1.0 was an awesome and complete game.
I see lists of changes, I can read, I see a lot of work there! The game wasn't complete. Actually Crysis still has few flaws. I hope Crytek made such patches for Crysis 2, that's what I mean.

To make it clear: I actually made a point of NOT updating because after the first patch the game seemed way easier than before.
I strongly disagree! After few patches Crysis became more realistic on max difficulty! Cause it was very weird when korean soldier could take several bullets right in his face and stands still.


Even the single player was affected to a degree because they made many changes (like nerfed the nano suit).
Sorry, I don't understand that part between round brackets. But I absolutely like new nano suit feature for the first Crysis: AI can now be knocked over while running into them in speed mode.