Actually due to mods, Skyrim will probably look good atleast until TES VI comes out. A fully overhauled and modded MW looks better than vanilla OB, and a fulyl modded OB still looks amazing nowadays :shrug:

I'm not sure though...so far I haven't heard anything that made me think it will harm the game, atleast signifcantly.

Guns and VATS :huh: none of which exist in TES universe. The OP was probably talking about things like the levelling system or the difficulty gap, which were better in FO3 than in OB.

Radiant Story does NOT generate quests. The quests are still written, as Todd has said many times. Radiant Story CUSTOMIZES quests to the player, that is all.



Yep, this^^^

Especially those who think their opinion is always right for everyone and no one can disagree with them without being scolded. *cough* Arwen *cough*

I was responding to Bukee, who disputed what I said about the relationship between skill and HP damage. I'm pretty sure that HP damage and weapon skills are going to be part of Skyrim. And Bethesda has stated that much of what they learned while doing Fallout 3 has influenced Skyrim. So back off.

What is it with some people on this forum?
Why do so many here feel that is ok to attack other members, who happen to have an opinion that they don't personally agree with?

My opinion is nothing more than my opinion . . . I don't really care if others agree with me.
But others here do not have the right to tell me that I don't have a right to my opinion.
No one has the right to try to discredit my opinion, because we have no way of knowing for sure who's opinion is right as far as this topic goes.
But when someone attack me or my opinion, I do have the right to defend myself.

I have a language disability, so I tend to respond very directly and concretely. That is just the only way that I know how to write my thoughts.

This thread is on what we feel will be Skyrim's weakness. Every game has its strengths and weaknesses. All we are doing are speculating, based on what we know about the game so far.

Bugs , animations , graphics , but mainly bugs, i hope i am wrong :unsure: , and i am sure i will still have lots of fun with the game

Could be cut items.

Console features will leave their ugly mark, I've resigned myself to that. As one poster already said, I'd rather get a consolized TES than none at all.

what do you mean Slimgrin someone showed me what computers can look like and it's nicer but not that much better besides he said that Skyrim can have better settings on comp anyway.

I was told they are still making improvements to the hair.

But i think it's going to be AI again, i'm not sure why but i just have a feeling that AI is going to be messy again.

Interface, control options, optimization, and graphical settings are big things for me.

Anyway I think most TES players since Daggerfall or Morrowind will agree with you opinion.
I know I do.

Slimgrin someone said you can use an Xbox controller though so that could help but I think maybe just a wired one.

I agree on this. Hopefully though they would have played through a few, so infact some of the radient story quests might have more substance to them that what might initally be thought of. Either way, who knows until the games release how good they will be. Fingers crossed!

Honestly, I think the story of Oblivion was great, the delivery though, was not. The Gates were very tedious and unsatisfying, but the story was amazing to me.

But anyway, this is what I believe Skyrim's weakness will be:
Conversations will be even more linear and limited than Oblivion. (Hopefully not of course)

For the record, I've played all the main TES games from Arena to Oblivion, along with several other older and newer RPGs.

And no, I'm not agreeing with her, or with the whole "Skyrim won't be an RPG" thing...

I doubt Skyrim will have any major weaknesses.

What I fear it will be is dialogue and action and consequence. (Oblivion's topic dialogue svcked and since we're given a free pass on people we kill as a relative comes back so we can still accept the quest I fear that it will dumb down the consequences of the game and a major roleplaying aspect for me: Dialogue.)

Hopefully it won't be these two things.

This...

I'm sure the game will have it's weaknesses, but I won't know what they are until I start playing. What they talk about sounds promising, and I especially like the talk about the leveling system, but whether or not they can pull it off without any snags has yet to be seen.

Though one thing I'll say about Bethesda is that there a company that is ready to accept and learn from their mistakes in the past when it comes to the games of the future.

From the looks of things, I don't think faces and bodies will be a problem, course we're looking at earlier builds.

I agree with Gabriel, the dialogue may possibly be a weakness in Skyrim, but we will never know for sure until it gets released, so who knows.

Lolz. Thanks for proving my point with a hyper defensive response. Obviously you care a lot about others listening to you and not arguing, otherwise you wouldn't have responded to me. I mentioned your name only as an example, and you jumped on it.

When were you attacked? And when did I say I disagree with you? I stated facts about how you answered anyone and everyone that disagreed with your opinion....... If you can't see your own bias and accept it, then you're truly lost.

Oh, and btw, you nor anyone else has the "right" to an opinion. We all have the freedom to express what we think, but it is definitely not a right. People seriously misunderstand what rights are these days....



:thumbsup: Real tough guy, huh?

And no, most people don't agree with your opinion because YOU believe that they will. That's the kind of thinking that ruins discussions here. One person thinks their own opinion represents a significant portion of the community, thus allowing them to act as the mouthpiece of that group when discussing the issue with anyone who disagrees.

Being biased is not wrong. In fact it's just fine, and helpful for the purposes of discussion. But on this forum, being hyper defensive, critical of others' opinions, and pretty much just stuck-up will get you nowhere. I know when I'm biased about a subject, but when others don't listen or disagree with my logic and reasoning, I agree to disagree.

You call THAT a "hyper defensive response??!!

You attacked me personally, by singling me out as an example, after a very derogatory statement, made by another member.

And based on what? Because I expressed an opinion that you don't agree with. Have I ever once attacked you?

I do NOT care if you agree with my opinion. But you crossed the line when you made it into a personal attack.

Well, this is going downhill pretty quickly.

In the hope of steering this thread back to a better place, I'll add my thoughts on what would be a disappointment:

1. Something a lot of people have already pointed out: bad writing. From short NPC dialogue, to the larger narrative arcs of factions and the main quest. This has never been Bethesda's greatest strength. However, despite Morrowind not having great writing, it was still an engrossing experience. I think that mostly came from reading between the lines of the quests and the dialogue. It was more about the way the culture, politics, and history of the world was presented to you. It sounds like Skyrim will feature more of a focus on these elements, so I'm confident that it will be an immersive game, even if the dialogue and quest writing isn't superb.

2. Another thing a few people have mentioned: the reliance on perks. There's scope here for a really interesting character customisation system. But I worry that a lot of the perks may just be dull +10% to this or that stat.

I singled out your posts, NOT you. Take a [censored] chill pill, damn.

And I didn't disagree with you once, so why are you bringing it up?

My opinion about this topic relates directly to the post I originally quoted, which does not relate to you in any way. I used your name as an example because you decided to commandeer this thread for your own argument's sake.

That's enough of that.

Actually each new TES have less and less RPG component and increasing action component, so it is more or less true
TES series should slightly shift back to RPG side and stop moving towards 1st person hack'n'slash.
It may be fun for a day or two, but taking into inconsideration that TES titles are being played for years, roleplaying part should increase.
Also I dislike removing stats, instead they should fill them with purposes (luck for ex. could directly influence Radiant story)
Anyway we all will love TES5, but some of us will at the same time hate Bethesda for wasting opportunities.