what will you call your characters "class" : V - Skyrim

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:02 am

Trying to find out a feminin version of "Crimelord" Crimelady? No, no.

But something to that nature.

Crime Mistress? Doesn't roll off the tongue though.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:09 pm

Battlemage, spell in one hand, mace in the other

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:20 am

Slayer

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:42 pm

"Exiled God"

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:29 pm

Crime Mistress? Doesn't roll off the tongue though.

You're on the right track, though.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:17 am

My character will either be more of the knight or paladin persuasion.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:24 pm

I always name my class God lol

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:51 pm

I will just be a plain old BADASS.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:35 am

Trying to find out a feminin version of "Crimelord" Crimelady? No, no.

But something to that nature.

How about "Miss Demeanor"?

*Usually the word used for a female crime-boss is 'Matriarch' (but it doesn't only mean that).

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:25 pm

I am everything maxed out, except speechcraft, that's 0. In other words, I am a God...

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:49 pm

Sword Thruster , sounds so strong !

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:36 am

Evermor Centurion
idk why just sounds cool

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:18 am

Since there are no classes, thanks alot Todd and Co. :facepalm: , there is no reason to give your character a class. It's nothing more than what skills will you use.

Which actually means more class choices! WHOO!!! :tes:

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:52 pm

Lore Keeper

or

Celestial Watcher

or

Full metal alchemist

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:36 pm

The word "assassin" already sounds cool enough.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:52 am

I suppose, if you like, you could call him just Dragonborn.

Name: Dovakhiin.
Class: Prophesied Hero.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:21 pm

That is just where the story begins...
...Obviously, Erik Lensherr would have had a life before the concentration camp, but the story we are being told begins in the concentration camp, and proceeds throughout his life after that.

True, but its a movie... Its not an experience centered around their perception of the world and it does not offer audience participation for their personal /moral choices based on their past development of a personality.

RPGs are about the identity and what they would do in a given circumstance. :shrug:

Long post: the rest is within:

Spoiler

I am a fan of the BioWare games, but I believe that Bethesda leaving our characters past ambiguous for us to decide and create is far superior to a BioWare game giving us a choice from 3 or so backstories that the game will acknowledge.

Bioware's Baldur's Gate allowed the player to concoct their PC's entire life at Candle Keep if they so chose... (The default bio was editable).

I enjoy creating characters, and between Morrowind and Oblivion, have created many different character concepts that have translated into gameplay. My Morrowind character was a Wood Elf named Aalaan who's backstory was that his parents were killed when he was a youth, and he had to fend for himself. He only had his older brother to look after him, and he quickly learned that he couldn't trust many people in the world. He let few people close to him, but due to the relationship with his brother, he did have an undying loyalty towards the people he did let in.

RPGs are games for folks that like to role play (or at least should be), but Character creation can (and IMO should) still loosely fit within an archetype class ~no matter what the player dreams up. Even completely unique and bizarre background events that lead to a truly strange Gambit/Beast style spellcaster/warrior... One should still be able to stand back and say this character is essentially a bard; and follows the Bardic Class; or some other equally strange PC being essentially one of the other archetypes.

Skyrim is no different. I know what skills I want to use. I want to dual wield 1 handed swords. I want to capitalize on the new magic system. I want to summon evil creatures, I want to steal the souls of my enemies, and I want them to fuel my magical abilities by using them to give my weapons arcane abilities. I have a character design to fit that, his motivations, why he makes the choices that he does. A class system does not make it easier for you to create a backstory for a character. A backstory happens regardless, and a character becomes more than just the skills he's good at.

Well the first problem is that the skills are catch-all categories... If you tried to design a D'Artagnan character he would also be an equal master at wielding Conan's Sword, or Thor's Hammer, or Gimli's Ax.

**I wish, they had [instead], made 'one & two handed' both be for simple (crude) basic weapons, with reduced potential; and had several weapon specific skills (even perks perhaps ~and perhaps they have :shrug:; but I doubt it. <_<). Skills for Farming Scythes; Katanas; exotic Orc weapons (Orcs get these skills for free :chaos:). Skills that allow you the option of competent use with the weapon. If your PC has had training then they can benefit from one ~else they cannot; and by having that skill, they are less one skill in some other area ~IE. Something that their PC never learned while they were hard at work training in the weapon skill.

But this game does make your choices carry weight. You might be able to go around and do any skill you want (but you could do that in Morrowind and Oblivion, as well), but you can only specialize in a few. There are almost 300 perks in the game, and you can only get 50. You're going to have to make choices, and you're going to have to specialize.

Unlike Fallout 3, Skyrim Perks look (in some instance) to be a bit more like Fallout 1 (Which is good; but they are not all like that

); Perks for the Bow include a Zoom option, or a "Simultaneity" option == Bullet time. Other options include one for Axes ~that causes wounds made with an axe to bleed. :bonk:

The question is... How does this apply to character development? How does this make a good replacement for attributes or some skills? Personally, I'm not looking forward to a perk based PC development.

I believe there are pro's and con's to a dice roll system over a "real time" system. I would have no problem with spell casting going back to a dice roll system like Morrowind, where you can try to cast any spell, but if you're not good enough, you're probably going to fail the cast. That doesn't seem to be the case though. They went with a more real time combat system, which I feel is much more adrenaline fueled and exciting than a dice roll system, so they make it that your skill determines the amount of things you can do in a skill, not whether or not you can do it.

... And has no bearing what-so-ever on the PC personal aptitudes and acquired skills. Basically it creates a digital costume for the player in a virtual sandbox... A great adventure game/ a sad RPG [IMO].

But in a game who's motto is "Live another life, in another world" and "Be any kind of character you can imagine", why should I be limited from being that person?

I personally find this motto to be wrong on many levels; but I can accept that its always been the goal of the TES series (or at least since Oblivion).

Some people aren't as creative. My brother loves RPG's, but he doesn't like creating in depth characters and backstories.

Wouldn't an in depth backstory solve this; as well as allow for non-timeless interaction with the gameworld's NPCs and far greater detailed conversations? Ever play Witcher 1 or 2? (Or Planescape?)

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:32 pm

Ranger.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:17 pm

Μπουχ?σα? - translates as too fat to do anything

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:56 pm

Im going for Pimp Ninja! :ph34r:

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:39 am

Thief/Mage. With two small words I just gave you a concise description of my character. It sets him apart from other characters, helps make him unique.

This is a pretty popular thread for a feature that has been cut from the game.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:10 pm

"Battlemage"

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:53 pm

Mercenary or Adventurer.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:57 pm

Survivor

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:44 pm

Aer Eques - Latin for Ethereal Knight. All of my mainly used charcters have it (it's like a faction I made up for them =P, and based of some stuff I am making)