My first character will be a ranger type, my second a spellsword and I'm trying to think up a character atm that would fall under the thief class.

Which is what classes were in Morrowind and Oblivion.......

My little Breton Battlemage/Healer will be a Defender!

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Since they removed classes I wont bother. Just define my persona's by race and ability.

NO, they weren't. You had to choose before hand what you wanted to be, that is choosing a class. In Skyrim you choose what you want while you play, so there is no class just skills.

Making the decision before hand was more than just a label.

I have to agree with you a little; Skyrim should have included classes but I'm not too bummed out about. However, I really disliked the major and minor skill requirement.

I'm a DarkKnight (not Batman)

Let me just say, I am very glad classes are gone. The new system will entice me to create more characters this time around because:
A. They may start the same, but they will end up very different at max level.
B. No more +5's to go grind for.
C. All classes really were in previous games was a label. One that worked against you at that. If you stuck to your class skills you would end up a lot weaker than someone who went jack of all trades.

I'd say my "main" characters class is Ranger. Think the Dúnedain.

Oh god its you again...

OT: Mage

I will be the Dark Knight as well, a Redguard Warrior.

Enchanter :violin:

Rogue or Scout maybe.

Although I'll miss the extensive character creation as you play/choose in the first part of the game, this does let you have more flexibility giving you a run for your imagination; the heart of RPGing.

It depends my race. It I play a Dunmer, I'll be an exiled Ordinator from the ruined clan of Indoril. If a Breton, a Chevalier with magic from the noble classes. Chances are though, I'll be an average nord running half-naked in the snow with a massive claymore Conan style. B)

I wont give him a class, since Skyrim does not support proper classes and there is no point to an empty label that goes unacknowledged by the engine.

So it is a bad thing that your character becomes defined by the actions you undertake during gameplay, and become good at what you do constantly, instead of predetermining a group of skills that you want to level you up?

Look, I like classes as much as the next guy, and even found disappointment in Oblivion because it didn't have a class description box like Morrowind did to write a description of my class. But I can't tell you how many times I've had to restart a character because I got -ONE- freaking skill wrong in my Major / Minor class sets because during the course of the game, I found another skill that I liked better, defined my character better, and wanted that skill to be what defined me. I played my entire Morrowind run through before realizing just how much I loved Enchant, and to this day feel like I need to play the game through again with an Enchanter character simply to exercise that mistake.

In Skyrim, if I decide "wow, this skill is pretty awesome, I overlooked it before" I just start doing it.

And if you want to predetermine those skills ahead of time, there is nothing, and I mean NOTHING, stopping you from looking over the list of skills in the game and determining what bunch of skill you want to focus on and perk in. I know I already am.

Alchemist. Not of the Fullmetal variety.



So, wait... you're saying my stats in this will be determined in a manner similar to GCD (Morrowind mod) and, as it's based on that, nGCD (Oblivion)? Fantastic news, the default "grinding for +5" system used in the vanilla versions of those was just wrong. It took all of the fun out of the entire system.

Spellsword.

Imperial Agent

Dead Horses smell really bad and this one is stinking to high himmelen.

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The great thing about Skyrim is classes are not included so theirs no limitations to your abilities.

Theirs too many games nowadays that use the whole class idea system instead of allowing you to do pretty much whatever the hell you want and specialize in any area you wish to.

-KC

I think Beth's idea is that you kind of, you know, "role-play" a class. I like this, as that is essentially what previous Elder Scrolls games were like. Your class meant little to NPCs, only your skills truly meant something.

Oh, and for my "role-played" class... I'm not sure right now. I'm thinking maybe "Minister".

hmm, my character will be crossbreed of a ranger and a mercenary and he's a cold hearted person, not evil but careless

Yes. Classes define the PC's personal history and life experience leading up to the point of the start of the game. It also defines their personal aptitudes and general area of expertise and past familiarity & training.

This is a personal choice (or a personal mistaken choice); It has nothing to do with RPG game mechanics. :shrug:


But there should be... Player characters of a given caste should have heavy incentives to remain in class, and /or heavy penalties to break class with an out-of-class skill choice ~and unlike in D&D, I would wish that such a skill selection did require a willing teacher; either paid or indebted to the PC.

Just 'doing a new skill', on a whim is quite seriously like deciding one day to take up herbalism and going out into the park and picking mushrooms for a snack.

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As an aside: I'm finding it devilishly ironic that the players most often against classes in RPGs do seem to usually treat their characters as a class instead of a role. :chaos:

The easiest way to describe my character would be a combination wizard/sorcerer/conjurer/battlemage/spellsword/nightblade. Purely going off of what would be an apt description of how I'll be playing him

like a sneaky mage? or a shadow ball throwing undead raising mage?


i like that idea

Judicator

It has to do with his background.