What's with the skimpy armor?

Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:23 am

That's all light armor, obviously. They're not showing us much of the badass http://i55.tinypic.com/11llwfk.jpg yet. And does http://i55.tinypic.com/2a9xz01.jpg look "skimpy" to you?



Just because their wearing light armor doesn't mean they have to dress like their at a bdsn convention, it's just silly.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:14 pm

Eh.... maybe it's just Beth, as so many people have desired over the years, incorporating elements of some of the most popular mods.

And maybe in that light, we should be glad that it's not g-strings and high heels.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:20 am

Just so you people know, I'm only talking about the armor in the pictures I gave. You guys keep going "Look at this one". Doesn't change the fact those armor examples are skimpy.

It's called http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/conan-thebarbarian.thumbnail.jpg. ;)

Just because their wearing light armor doesn't mean they have to dress like their at a bdsn convention, it's just silly.

Lmao bdsn? You tell Conan that...
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:06 am

Conan says "Hi!" :)



Seriously, though - it's not a "realistic combat simulator". It's a game, a heroic game. With "Macho Nord Barbarian" as a major feature of it's advertising. So, yeah - there's exposed skin on armor. Even on a guy running around in a snowstorm. Because he's a Macho Fantasy Hero?! :mohawk:

I'm pretty sure that the heaviest armor (steel plate, ebony, etc) are all going to be like they were in Oblivion - very very bulky and covering.

They just went with a different theme for the screenshots - maybe they thought that the more rag-tag leather and hide armor looks "cooler". :shrug:

Pretty much this.

But I would like some full cover leather and fur patchwork armour.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:14 am

As we all know this isn't a fantasy game, this is a realistic combat simulator.


Obviously the opposite is true, but does it hurt to pay a bit of attention so the armor doesn't look completely useless up to the point that it threatens your life even outside of combat because you might die of hypothermia?

Light armor is light armor. In real life when peasants would go to war they never had full armor. Thats what I see in the pictures.


True, but they certainly never wore something like on the screenshot(s). No one ever wore something like that in real combat except for Conan the Barbarian and Chuck Norris. And I think Chuck Norris is just a legend and never really lived.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:08 am

Hmm, I find it hard to believe people are actually complaining about the new armor. It all looks 10x better than anything else I've seen in TES thus far...
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:33 pm

True, but they certainly never wore something like on the screenshot(s). No one ever wore something like that in real combat


True. However since "skimpy" armor does have some historical validity the presence of armor like those in the screenshots does not really bother me. To each their own.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:52 am

And what exactly does that have to do with skimpy armor?



We only have 2 trailers and a handful of screenshots, it stands to reason that they are keeping the good looking heavy armor till E3 trailers. Right now the draw of Elder Scrolls Advertising is the whole 'One man of legend/fate against a horde of dragons' thing. So there not gunna show him in the uber non skimpy badass daedric heavy armor. They need him to seem like an underdog battler at the moment.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:49 am

you know what? i agree.
it makes no sense to be going around with no sleeves in such a climate, and a sword would not be stopped by what is shown.

i hope they have better armors. like a thick fur armor, or a cool looking hooded leather armor.
and i think we should be able to wear clothes under armor also. that way its more plausible in such a place.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:07 am

If armor is skimpy what's the point of wearing it? It's supposed to help stop big swords, axes, and arrows form destroying your flesh bits. Women have never had skimpy armor in TES, theres no "dealing" to be gone.

You don't need armor if you can dodge.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:10 am

It's called http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/conan-thebarbarian.thumbnail.jpg. ;)


Lmao bdsn? You tell Conan that...



No this barbarian armor http://wessixsociety.org/images/p004_1_01.jpg

and no, I'm not going to tell Conan that. I value my life!
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:42 pm

We only have 2 trailers and a handful of screenshots, it stands to reason that they are keeping the good looking heavy armor till E3 trailers. Right now the draw of Elder Scrolls Advertising is the whole 'One man of legend/fate against a horde of dragons' thing. So there not gunna show him in the uber non skimpy badass daedric heavy armor. They need him to seem like an underdog battler at the moment.


No one here is questioning that there is heavy armor in the game (whether it's uber armor or simply low level iron armor doesn't matter). This is all about the skimpy armor shown on the screenshots, which is basically a few leather straps with a piece of leather squeezed between the straps so it looks like a pauldron.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:27 am

No this barbarian armor http://wessixsociety.org/images/p004_1_01.jpg

and no, I'm not going to tell Conan that. I value my life!



no thats viking armor.

what conan was wearing was armor of ancient kings and powerful gods from cimarian legends of old.

Thundarr the barbarian wears barbarian armor him an uklock the mok...... and lets not forget Aireal the sorceress.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:29 am

I really don't think that khajits armor is skimpy. He's got metal covering pretty much all his vital organs on the torso. His pauldrons look like they have 4 metal lames with some fur type decal stuff between the bottom two. That armor looks like it'd weight a ton to me.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:51 am

wow where did those screenshots come from, feels like i missed alot...any way i think that the leather armor is designed to have a conan feel to it.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:16 am

I really don't think that khajits armor is skimpy. He's got metal covering pretty much all his vital organs on the torso. His pauldrons look like they have 4 metal lames with some fur type decal stuff between the bottom two. That armor looks like it'd weight a ton to me.



What are you talking about? It doesn't cover his belly or his armpits which, besides the heart itself, are the two most vulnerable parts of the torso.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:50 pm

I honestly like that there's variety. I mean, if people don't want skimpy armor, and don't want spiky armor either, at some point we're gonna get the same damn model with a different texture...

And you know, any armor is better than no armor at all (protection wise).

And to be honest, that armor really looks like the kind in which you dodge, but that can stop a few blows if you messed up.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:15 am

no thats viking armor.

what conan was wearing was armor of ancient kings and powerful gods from cimarian legends of old.

Thundarr the barbarian wears barbarian armor him an uklock the mok...... and lets not forget Aireal the sorceress.



Actually it's Saxon armor. Barbarians were real, Conan is not. What most people think of when they think barbarian is made up stereotypes.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:35 pm

EDIT: nevermind
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:54 am

True, but they certainly never wore something like on the screenshot(s). No one ever wore something like that in real combat except for Conan the Barbarian and Chuck Norris. And I think Chuck Norris is just a legend and never really lived.


Legions of naked, woad-covered, screaming Celts, would like to have a word with you. :whistling:

(I'm also thinking that some of the Ancient Greeks probably weren't covered head to toe in armor. And then I'm reminded of some of the historical armies that a friend of mine has painted up for the miniatures game De Bellis Antiquitatis - a game where people care about their accuracy.... armies that have plenty of the lesser crappy troops with exposed skin. All the way down to the armed Hindu peasantry, going to war in just loincloths.)

:shrug:



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Edit: in the end, they'll give us the same basic kinds of armor that they always have. And none of it'll be particularly "skimpy" compared to your average mod armor or Boris Vallejo painting. :)
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:56 am

I honestly like that there's variety. I mean, if people don't want skimpy armor, and don't want spiky armor either, at some point we're gonna get the same damn model with a different texture...

And you know, any armor is better than no armor at all (protection wise).

And to be honest, that armor really looks like the kind in which you dodge, but that can stop a few blows if you messed up.


The problem is that this skimpy armor all looks low end. So basically for the first 5 hours of the game I'm going to be forced to run around almost nvde.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:24 am

Conan the Barbarian, yo.

And well... pretty much every Viking ever.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:43 am

The armor we've seen a lot of so far has to do with adding the Conan vibe into the game. In one of the screenshots with Draugr the Nord is standing there holding his sword exactly like Arnold does in the movies and Conan does in the comics. It was the first thing I thought of when seeing that screenshot.

There will be plenty of armor pieces that'll "look like they should" the other armors are there for those who might not have a lot of encumberance to carry stuff but still want to be protected by something. Heavy armor is heavy and some of us don't want to lug it around but aren't satisfied with just wearing plain old clothes. I think it's an attempt to add a lot more variety in character appearance than previous TES games which is a good thing.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:56 am

It's an RPG. Deal with it.

/thread.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:06 pm

I was looking at some of the later screen shots of Skyrim, and it appears that Bethesda themselves agrees that it's to skimpy, at least a little bit. Look at this http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/93394/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/images/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-20110415033045237.html?page=mediaFull It appears to be the same armor that was in the original trailer but now it has a back. They must have decided to change it. I still think their going to have some skimpy armor in the game, because that khajiit one is new.
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