What would happen if the great war never happened?

Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:01 am

What would happen, just curious?
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Samantha Pattison
 
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:41 am

there wouldn't be any games based upon its aftermath but seriously who knows what they would have come up with sinnce their tech is so much further advanced in most areas
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Sarah Bishop
 
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Post » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:40 pm

I'd probably just happen later.
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Bethany Watkin
 
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:14 am

No Fallout.
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Shelby Huffman
 
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:33 am

The fact that I consider the Wasteland to be an improvment says a lot about how I feel about the pre-war world.
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Mel E
 
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 am

I don't think in Fallout's world thats possible. When the rest of the world hates you for having the last few drops of a resource that every economy relies on I think war is almost inevitable... Especially if the country that has it is refusing to "share its milk and cookies".
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:10 am

Hypothetically, they would have invented our current silicone-based chips within 100 years (they had some chip-based gadgets made before the war.) Plus, as they would have transferred over to Nuclear power, there would be no real need for any resource wars until the uranium mines are depleted (which wasn't likely to happen anytime soon, as reactor uranium needs to be only 2% pure.) Guns would be replaced with lasers, then with plasma and pulse weapons, and power-armored infantry would be the norm, rather than the exception. Robots would appear less "clunky" as less space is required for circuitry due to the invention of the silicone chip.

Umm... well, that's all I got.
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Lisa
 
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:53 am

Life would happen. But with more Science!
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Jessica Lloyd
 
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:40 pm

then everything would be fine.
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Princess Johnson
 
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:41 am

Hypothetically, they would have invented our current silicone-based chips within 100 years (they had some chip-based gadgets made before the war.) Plus, as they would have transferred over to Nuclear power, there would be no real need for any resource wars until the uranium mines are depleted (which wasn't likely to happen anytime soon, as reactor uranium needs to be only 2% pure.) Guns would be replaced with lasers, then with plasma and pulse weapons, and power-armored infantry would be the norm, rather than the exception. Robots would appear less "clunky" as less space is required for circuitry due to the invention of the silicone chip.

Umm... well, that's all I got.
all this would be made much harder to achieve without fossil oil reserves, which just bring us back to issue of fighting for last known sources of it; eventually it (the war) would have to happen
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Post » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:33 pm

How would it be harder w/out fossil oil? If you're thinking of plastic, think again. From what I've seen, everything they've been using is 100% steel. And as evidenced by the exploding cars and fission batteries, it wouldn't take them too long for nuclear powered stuff to become commonplace; most likely within 5 to 10 years.
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:47 am

Prolonged resource wars, probably. That would make a good spin-off I think, some sort of prequel to Fallout set before the great war. Mind you there'd be no ghouls, mutants, BoS or anything. So it'd probably be like a CoD game set in the Fallout universe.
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 am

In the Fallout universe, they seemed to get along pretty good without plastic. The US had already developed synthetic rubber tires during WW2, and bakelite (a synthetic resin) was used much more commonly than plastic at that time. Rifle stocks made out of wood, cloth insulation on electrical wires etc etc..
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:41 am

How would it be harder w/out fossil oil?
Wait for 30 years and see for yourself. If alternative fuel research doesn't get up and at it double time, we're heading for a very unpleasant place.

But of course, this is me thinking about real world. In Fallout universe we have fission batteries, which is very convenient. In an already radiated world no one would care about dumping exhausted cells anywhere.
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:09 am

because the resource war happened, the UN broke up, Europe became city states, the middle east became super impoverished, the states had rioting over the new plague and the US and china were still at war.. anarchy would still be prevailent, i think
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:34 am

The fact that I consider the Wasteland to be an improvment says a lot about how I feel about the pre-war world.


Considering you've never experienced the pre-war world of Fallout, you're not in any position to say the wasteland is better.
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:53 am

Considering you've never experienced the pre-war world of Fallout, you're not in any position to say the wasteland is better.

From the lore I've picked up, the Wasteland is far better than the dystopia that was the pre-war world.
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:56 am

From the lore I've picked up, the Wasteland is far better than the dystopia that was the pre-war world.


I find any sort of world worse than the wasteland pretty hard to imagine, short of one where people can't survive at all. Sure, the government in Fallout may build underground facilities advertised as fallout shelters where horrible experiments often resulting in a greatly shortened lifespan for the inhabitants of these facilities are conducted, but at least there was a government. In Fallout, the post-war world, the closest thing has killing anyone who doesn't fit their definition of "purity" (which means most people in the wasteland.) among their plans to restore America. For the rest of the population of post apocalyptic America, if your lucky, you might be able to live in Megaton or Rivet City or some other community protected from the outside world. If not, then any day you could wake up to find raiders coming to kill you, super mutants coming to kill you or drag you off, or slavers coming to drag you off.

At least, the pre-war government would probably have a reason to come and drag you off beyond the fact that you were conveniently located, even if that reason is just that you were suspected of being a communist. Before or after the war, though, I think one can agree that the Fallout world would not be a fun place to live.

It would be interesting to get more information on what things were like before the war, though, but what the Fallout world would look like in the hypothetical situation that it had not happen is something we can only guess at.
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:40 am

Well if the Great War never happened and there weren't the problems with the natural resources then:
Basically the game would be like the Jetsons, give or take a flying car.


If the Great War never happened and resources remained as scarce as they were just before the bombs fell:
The game would be like the Frontlines: Fuel of War game within the world of the Jetsons
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:36 am

then you will see James not named as James but Liam Neeson.

What do you expect if there is no such war? Martians invade Earth?
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Post » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:59 am

The war was entirely inevitable. Europe and the Middle East were already ravaged, Canada had already been annexed, the New Plague was still wrecking havoc in North America, and there was still very little oil. Even if tensions died down somehow, the Enclave would have likely provoked the war: it would get rid of the infected masses, pacify rebellious Canadians, and get rid of the Commies "once and for all". It's probably a way of dealing with runaway inflation, the Chryslus Corvega was selling for six figures and it seemed to be directed towards middle-America. The danger of not having the war would be the rest of the world turning on America in pursuit of it's shiny new fusion power to energize an electricity-starved world.
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