What would a spell scroll say?

Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:46 pm

Then there are scrolls that sorta make sense, but stretch it, like this scroll that lowers strength to enemies "DOWN WITH DUNMER OPPRESSION."

Yeah, I think the devs just gave up after a certain point. :P The text for the scroll of Vitality is a little creepy: "SHE WAS A LOVELY CHILD, FULL OF LIFE AND BEAUTY. MY ACTIONS PAINED ME, BUT I DID WHAT HAD TO BE DONE... TO SAVE HER." And some of the beneficial spells just have "Woe on you" which doesn't make sense. Hmm... Do you have any ideas for the scrolls? In the OP, I linked to a post I made with the collection of curses and blessings I'd accumulated after using google. Some of the curses are great, but very few of the blessings fit with the TES Universe. I'm open to all suggestions from people (and you'll get credit in the readme, of course). :)
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:30 am

As I understand it, you have to hold the scroll and speak the words at the same time.
And when you do that, the scroll sort of vaporizes itself, or burns to ashes or something, in order to release the magic inside.

This is pure interpretation, of course, but it answers your questions satisfyingly. The scroll needs to be destroyed for the magic to be released, and the words on it are the "activation code" for that, so that anyone can use it, even a stupid warrior (as long as he has read his "Daedric ABC for Barbarians").

[Wild speculation:]
In this case it also makes sense that "Woe upon you" is used so often. It would be only natural that Destruction scrolls would be the type that has been used for the longest time throughout history, since they've probably been created with the battlefield in mind in the first place. And maybe "Woe upon you" simply was the easiest one to remember, or to speak during battle, or something like that, so that other phrases like "I'ma hurt ya" simply didn't prevail (hey, many internet users use the same password for every website, why would warriors in a fantasy setting be less lazy?).
As time passed, other types of scrolls had been made as well, but there was no good reason to make up new activation codes - everyone was accustomed to "Woe upon you". Some priests, or mages with a sense for poetry, still try to use other phrases from time to time, but to the common scroll-user, that's more of an annoyance rather than a welcome change.
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:34 pm

Or could purely be Dev laziness, Fearrabbit.
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Kit Marsden
 
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:36 pm

Though it is strange that silence does not affect spells cast by scrolls.
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:41 pm

Though it is strange that silence does not affect spells cast by scrolls.


It's braille. Probably. M'Aiq told me so, and he never lies, except when he speaks.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:52 am

Pehaps the soul energy/magic of the soul used to enchant the scroll is trapped inside, and the inscription is physically -- rather than magically -- telling it what the hell it should do. The scrolls disappear because the power of any magic is too much for simple paper.
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:23 pm

Came across something interesting while doing some Telvanni quests.
Scrolls of summoning are, without exception, based on the Law of Similarity as you must know. While others use parts of the creature, such as Daedra skin for summoning Daedra, I have developed a new methods, based on a recovered Dwemer machine. My scrolls only have an image of the Daedra, which works almost as well as a Daedra skin or heart... And at a fraction of the cost.

Hope this helps.
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:54 pm

What does Magika look like writtend down?

Mabye Ayleid writings like in that Pillar Quest in Oblivion.

Crap, but how did people start using magika for the first time, did someone just start, snapping their fingers and flames came out?
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:26 pm

? What do you mean? Spell scrolls have text written in Daedric, a collection and translation of which I linked to in the opening post of this topic. My question is: what purpose do the words serve? Knowing that, I might have a better understanding of what the content should be, so that I might then expand upon the variations of text in the scrolls in a manner consistent with the vanilla text and the lore of the game.


I believe there is a comprehensive translation to the daedric alphabet somewhere around the internet.
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:37 pm

I believe there is a comprehensive translation to the daedric alphabet somewhere around the internet.

Read her questions again, it's not about translating daedric.
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:10 pm

Came across something interesting while doing some Telvanni quests.

Hope this helps.

Oooo, that is very interesting! :ooo: Time to use photoshop filters on Nifskope screenshots of daedra! :hehe: Poster Edges (if I recall correctly) seemed to do an okay job... I'll have to experiment a bit more at some point. Definitely something I'll consider doing, though at the moment I think I'll stick with text before moving on to something more complicated like an image.

@Grunge: I know what they say in Daedric. By "content" I didn't mean a literal translation, but the theme and style - e.g. a blessing, a curse, whether or not it uses "you" and whom that "you" is referring to (the caster or the target/victim).

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Should I stick with "you" and "your" or do you think I should go for "thou, thy/thine, thee" for some archaic flavor?
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Post » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:34 pm

I have an important question too. Why are scrolls a ONE TIME use while spell books are reusable? They're both sheets of paper with words on them, nothing more. How does a scroll work to where any shmuck can say the words aloud and cast the spell? Whereas if you look in Vedaa's grimiore and say the words she wrote down, most would go, duh gee george which way did he go?
Does anybody know the difference or how a scroll works? UESP didn't help much. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Scrolls

I think scrolls are only used once because upon use the invokation written on the scroll is used and thus disappears once the magic inside the parchment is dispersed .why we dont keep the paper or parchment isnt kept maybe its burned away by its own magic power,to prevent it from being rewritten.

as for the topic at hand. Maybe some invokation. written in different texts.unique to different scrolls. like for example a scroll could have the power to summon a dwemer centurian sphere would be written in dwemers own language daedric summonings in daedric. while other spells could be written in other languages and so on each with a unique invokation depending on the schools involved.
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Post » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:34 am

Came across something interesting while doing some Telvanni quests.

Hope this helps.

Mythic power and symbols ftw!

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