same news from (neighbouring) postnuclear austria...

i proclaim anyway some of us survived in local vaults (swiss bankers in swiss bank vaults probably or ghoulified.

because i. want. that. fallout. europe. game. )

All you needed to do was answer, Russia, Metro 2033.

That's all you needed.

At least 3 bombs that we know of dropping within a half mile of my house. Had a pharmaceuticals research plant as well as two different industrial complexes that did military projects that were known to be bomb targets for the Soviets - and I imagine in 2077 would remain targets for the Chinese. And, being smack dab between Newark and Manhattan, we're probably also in one of those unlucky stretches to be carpeted by nukes, directly or indirectly, in the event of a mass exchange.

In short, northern NJ is probably part of the southern stretches of the Glowing Sea.

I'd just be a ghoul and live forever until I lose my mind and go feral.

I live in CT where we have the coast guard academy, a nuclear submarine base, Electric Boat which builds nuclear subs, Pratt&Whitney jet engine factory, Sikorsky helicopter factory, Colt, Ruger, Mossberg, Stag which all build weapons for the military, etc.... I would expect that 90% of the state would look like the glowing sea.

I have a 1956 civil defense map that shows where the government predicted soviet nukes would hit and their expected blast radius. The middle of the state would simply be a glowing lake fed by the Connecticut river.

Map:http://i63.tinypic.com/zmceac.jpg

Wasn't Chicago part of one of the old PC Fallout games? I don't know anything about that one, but I guess this area would be partly like the Commonwealth and partly like the Capital Wasteland. Lake Michigan would be irradiated, but thankfully no mirelurks. Maybe the University of Chicago would become a place for science, it was a site where the atomic bomb was developed during WWII. There is also Argonne National Laboratory, which I could as having to do with the main quest, whatever that may be. I don't think there would be any areas of major atomic detonation though. Chicagoans like to think their city is really important, but it really isn't. Chinatown could be an interesting place, as I think would any if a Fallout game were set in a city that has a significant Chinatown. The surrounding area of Cook County could have radstags, mutant hawks, mutant coyotes and mutant raccoons. I could see an Al Capone inspired gang running part of the city. There's actually a lot that could be done with a big, but not too big like NYC, place like the Chicago area.

the one wouldn't necessarily exclude the other

In the event of an all out nuclear war, Chicago would be nuked simply because it is a major population center where one bomb could kill millions of people.

I cannot imagine the crocodiles here on Miami getting more scary.

We stopped targeting population for its own sake sometime around the 1970s. However, a lot of military targets happen to be in or near major cities so it's a moot point.

There has to be at least one oil refinery in the Chicago area and those would be high on the target list.

Singapore.


Any direct hit is an instant KO. If there's any bomb hitting any neighbouring countries, it would probably cause a wave big enough to drown my country.


GG

...pretty much the same at it is now. Who says it's unrealistic that you'd just randomly find scissors laying around out in the Wasteland, today on the way home I saw a perfectly good pair nailed to telephone pole.

Well I live in Texas so I imagine there'd be plenty of Brahmin and Big horners as well as radstags. I'm not sure how radiation would effect the reptile population. I imagine if there are vaults which there probably would be. I think there would eventually be an attempt too reform the Republic of Texas. The real question is what sort of kooky cults would develop?

I live in Alabama so I would be fine.

There is nothing here worth bombing.

That is very very interesting, Thanks for the link.

Maybe we did, but did the other guy? If it ever came down to all out nuclear war I seriously doubt anyone is going to care what they hit. Like the guy over there that reminds us of the pillsbury doughboy, cares what they target.

I live in Detroit and I always thought a game like Fallout: Motor City would be cool. They have a lot of room to work with like the Fox Theatre, Comerica Park, Ford Field, etc

Chicago here, with a nickname like the second city, I am sure it would be obliterated more than likely. Who knows though? The fallout series only bounces between the extreme west coast, or the east coast, not much about the midwest except blurbs from sources that aren't considered canon now.

I've been to Detroit man..heck it's like fallout right NOW in some places there.

in all reality, the nuke itself and corresponding fallout would more than likely kill all of the wildlife along with most of the people.


those that were lucky enough to have had warning and an ample place to retreat to would be about the only things walkin around.



i doubt we'd have to worry about gangs or raiders right off because those that survived would more than likely be responsible citizens and be out to help anyone they came across.


if they had their potassium iodide and hazmat suits with gas masks and i believe oxygen might be a good thing as well. thick fallout will clog a gas mask essentially suffocating you or forcing you to remove it. that wouldn't be good either way.


it took nagasaki and hiroshima over 50 years to get back on their feet and i still don't believe that they can grow food, or any other plant-life. there were no gross, fantastical mutations either, everyone that was unlucky enough to survive had radiation burns/poisoning and although their skin was peeling off in sheets, they were not ghoulified.


so in conclusion, when north korea gets enough warheads to flatten the u.s., we're all gonna die. except the president and people of great "importance" to the world. :rolleyes:


let the workin man burn under the nukes! wait, who's gonna do our dirty work for us? i don't want dirt under my fingernails! ehh, looks like it's time to take some slaves again!


and that's gonna be the biggest threat, our own government.


I'm movin to the south pole!

I live in the DC Metro Area, I would be dead

Philadelphia. You'd find my corpse on my roof facing center city, scattered beer bottles and stale cigarettes by my side, a pair of sunglasses, and my legendary melee weapon "the whomp stick"

I guess my area (southeast Louisiana) could probably be compared to "Point Lookout" except we would have mutated alligators and lots and lots of bloodbugs. lol

Soviet targeting fairly closely mirrored ours from what I understand. Both sides used a "counter force" rather than a "counter value" strategy. That meant we both tried to target each others military assets and command-control.

Main targets were: military installations, centers of government and oil refineries. That's because hitting all the oil refineries is the most effective way to shut down somebody's economy.

As I said before, however, most of those kinds of targets can be found in or near major population centers so it wouldn't have really mattered.

For example:

Whiteman AFB is in a rural part of Missouri, but the prevailing winds would blow the fallout across everywhere between there and St. Louis (and maybe further east).

Scott AFB is just across the river from St. Louis in Illinois.

McConnell AFB happens to be next to Wichita. Topeka has an Air National Guard KC-135 unit and the fallout would travel east across Kansas City.

So with four bombs we've already depopulated much of the Midwest and we've only hit military targets so far.

If you want to play around with it there's an app that lets you "nuke" any area on Google maps

http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

My hometown has already been in a game - the random encounter areas near San Francisco in Fallout 2. It's probably NCR territory by 2287.