Yes, I can openly admit I may have gone-off-the-deep-end but you try being civil after spending 2 hours sitting in traffic. So, yes. I may have acted like an idiot too. But they had it coming.

Oh, I too remember as a kid doing stupid things I once beat up a series of mailboxes with my fists. Then was told that it was a federal offence and that I'd probably serve some time in juvy....but I think my parents said that to scare me. My father once took me to our local police station and had the cops put me in the holding cell for a few hours to scare me too.

But I never once thought about yelling back at another advlt for being caught doing something stupid. I was always taught that if you are caught to own up to. I once was pulled over for doing 80 in a 65 and the cop who pulled me over said that if I just tapped my brakes he was going to let me go. I asked him why? He had told me that if I had he'd known that I saw him and was at least attempting to slow down. I replied with telling him that I was speeding and he had caught me and to give me my ticket. I was in the wrong and "tapping" the brakes wasn't correcting a problem. The ticket did.

These kids today wouldn't even own up to their stupidity which angered me more. Which may have been why I exploded on this girl because I wasn't getting through.

I do agree, there is no discipline today. When I did something wrong I got smacked. When today's children do something wrong there is no recourse. If I had accidentally struck one of those kids today I'd be in the wrong for driving my car. I'd be the one castrated and persecuted. The girls would be told they did nothing wrong and that it was all my fault. They'd get special treatment. I'd probably end up in jail for vehicular manslaughter or something. There would be no punishment for the girls who would've ultimately caused the accident.

There is something very wrong with that, especially when they were confronted about it and they blew it off like they were doing nothing wrong.

I just hope that they do not reproduce...although given their behavior tonight they'll all probably become pregnant before the end of the summer.

I just hope that I can raise my daughter much better I hope I'm a good father and teacher. I really am afraid for her. I don't know what I'd do if someone took her away from me because of something she did that she shouldn't of been doing.

depends on who we are talking about here. Gen Y, or Gen Z. Were very different. Like baby boomers and Gen X we have major differences. You can't group them all under "youth" or "kids"

I do believe they were gen Z since my brother is Y and he is a few years younger than me.

raithen,

You're right. I had great parents. I got disciplined for being caught doing stupid things. I got smacked, spanked....made me the man I am today. My parents and the way they brought me up have absolutely nothing to do with my views on capital punishment, nuclear weapons, torture. That is all me. Although, my father did believe in capital punishment. The jails are full of people who should be shot.

If they were gen Z they'd be about 12 years old max. The only real difference is that Gen Y are able to remember a time before ubiquitous internet use. Otherwise they're pretty much contemparies. In decades to come there will barely be any visible difference, apart from the significantly lower numbers of gen Z.

You're making inaccurate assumptions. I had the misfortune of hitting a young bicyclist who had broken a traffic law. His parents were responsible not only for his medical bills, but also the repair of my car. If the girl's walking in traffic, she would be liable as well.

The only generational differences I've really noticed is that kids these days seem to feel like they're entitled to more. Whether that's because of the vast improvements in technology or people just generally having more, I don't know.

As in every one of these threads:

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer
rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,
pvssyr before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their
legs, and are tyrants over their teachers."

-Socrates

This is not a new thing, the young generation are always little bastards, we just don't realise it at the time because we're young too.

I'm honestly more appalled at your reaction and actions than theirs.
You're the one who looked like a moron in my eyes, no offense. Cursing and swearing at them because they were walking on the road? You sound like you're 12 yourself.

Just proves they've been getting steadily worse since Socrates's day. He does't say "they rob from shops, attack old ladies, and steal cars" because the degradation hadn't got that far yet.

I think that's probably more to do with the lack of cars back in Socrates' day...

Shh!

We are sick and tired of the way the older generation has done things..... :huh: what that isn't what the OP is talking about

You are missing the point entirely. Like, really really so much you could probably charge a couple hundred bucks running ferries the distance you are away from the point.

The point is people have being complaing about youth since the dawn of time and they always well. It's not getting worse, we're getting old. I know that I was a relatively well behaved kid, but there were just as many little toerags as there are now. There are well behaved kids just as many today, but now that we have channels of mass complaining all the bad gets highlighted.

Or elderly people and shops?

Gotta agree with this.

There we go! You just admitted that you svcked as a kid too. Your entire argument is now moot.


You're telling me that back then, NO kids EVER lied or yelled at their parents? Or was that just you? Either way, your entire argument is moot.


You said in the OP that you gave them a mouthful because they were acting stupid. I don't think ANYone is going to own up to their mistakes after having a stranger yell at them like that - teenagers especially.

Also, I noticed that within your first sentence there, even though you are trying to talk about three stupid teenagers, you still tried to generalize an entire generation. The result is a sentence that doesn't make sense, grammatically or otherwise. You're so blinded by your hatred for the youth of today that it's effecting how you express your ideas.



Another generalization. Who's children?

You mentioned you have a daughter. Do you plan on raising her how you were raised; smacking her to teach her what's right and wrong? If you do, then your entire point here is moot. If you don't then your entire point here is moot anyway because you're part of the problem.


In many places, the girls would have been held at fault anyway. I don't know what the road laws are like where you are, but here, if you are walking down the middle of a road and get hit it is YOUR fault because you decided to walk in a place that would endanger your own well-being.

So, again, moot point.


They're teenagers. Teenagers svck. Your daughter will probably act the same way when you aren't around when she's that age.





Well, this is rather off-topic, but whatever floats your boat, I guess...

In the OP you said you wanted to torture and then kill the three stupid teenagers and their parents. Because you like to generalize that all of the youth of today svck, and that youth didn't svck when you were a kid, I'm going to generalize as well: Parenting svcked back in the day. All those kids weren't disciplined properly and now they've grown up and want to torture and kill innocent people. These young advlts are all dangerous. These young advlts also can't form a proper rational argument. Nothing at all like the young advlts we had when I was a kid.

My grandparents have noted it as well, in the mere ten year gap between my brother and sister and our cousins, so its pretty much the same point in time to the elderly. They're living in a different world from the one we grew up in. Societal values and codes have d]changed over time, sometimes form the better, but often it causes problems. The doted on and mollycoddled gen Y=Z grow up with much more different mindsets from the neglected and self raised War Generation. This has an effect on how they go through life. It would be madness to claim that how you are raised has no effect on how you act.

AntiMan,

I've never had the horrible experience of hitting someone in the road, and I hope I never will either.

Betrayer of Humanity,

You're right. Maybe I should've just kept going instead....I mean honestly..I couldn't give two [censored] if they did get hit by a car either way, as long as it wasn't me. I only swore and yelled after the initial, "you know its not a good idea to be in the middle of the road like that. This is a pretty bad road with a lot of accidents and fatalities. In fact, just last summer a group of kids went too fast 'round that corner and hit that wall, two of the 3 kids went through the windshield. One kid never got back up because his head disintegrated after it became part of the stonewall." to which she replied, "(The entire sentence is censored)."

Guesss what guys, yes. I probably shouldn't of swore and yelled at them. However, I feel all of you who are bashing me and my reactions are completely missing the point that these three "children" could have been killed and failed to recognize that what they were doing was dangerous. I mean as soon as I left them there was a car coming up the road on their side going just as fast as I was. I'm assuming they were no longer in the road but that isn't the point. I saw them and tried to warn them....but they didn't care. They were approaching a very dangerous curve and hill with a car coming up from behind who was not going to see them. I was trying to do the right thing. But I guess that point has been missed because I yelled, and swore at them. Ok.

I agree entirely that how you're raised has an effect, but regardless of the point in time bad parenting raises bad kids and those bad kids will be the ones who get all the spot light. The only reason that people notice so many of them now is because people are a lot nosier now and also there is stuff like the internet, tv and radio constantly telling us these kids did this and these kids did that.

It's the exact same of doomsayers saying that the world has devolved into a horrible seething pit of chaos just because there's some bad news on the radio. Even though chances are before it would have still happened, just you didn't hear about it because without the internet you don't hear every dirty little bit of news.

There's bad kids and good kids in every generation, and it doesn't really matter when and where, people will complain no matter what.

I'd understand your frustration, The Tallest, if the reason you got so upset was because you were afraid they could have gotten hurt and or killed. But it seems to me like you lashed out because they are just "stupid kids", two completely different feelings and reasonings.

If we take d[society] / d[t] we can figure out the magnitude of moral change and d²[society] / d[t]² to figure out where it is headed.


For instance, here, the morals cater to proper etiquette instead of potential death and the d / d[t] of that is probably "who gives a [censored] if he yelled at some people to save their life"


Yes, I am going through some homework overload myself.

My daughter is doing fine, brought her up to know what's right and wrong. She's reached advlthood without many teen tantrums from me or her.

I personally feel you didn't improve the situation by hurling abuse at them. Firstly it is setting a bad example, they probably swore at you because their parents swear frequently. Secondly it is fairly hypocritical to swear at somebody because they swore at you. I agree with you that some kids could do with a bit of politeness and respect but swearing at them is not the way to encourage this. Anyway if you do give them advice and they disregard it and get themselves killed then at least you tried to do the right thing.

No, trust me, my grandfather had the same access to television in 1992 that he had in 1952, and no pair of ten year olds had ever been reported as brutally murdering a toddler until Jamie Bulger in 1992.

Not even Socrates realized it, a guy who basically made a living realizing things.


Nobody is missing the fact that they were stupid. They're just dwelling on the idea that it's in the least way unique to kids "these days."

Sure, he didn't make them feel better. But he probably got them off the road.

If thats all it took to save people I wouldn't be a doctor, I'd cuss some fools out.