Nothing.. I haven't followed it in like 2 months and I swear nothing new has happened during that span.. But, i am intrigued.. Tell me about this stealth gameplay you heard of.

A judgment formed by an individual who is based on thoughts that are premature and are not based on thorough study or research about a group of people or individuals is referred to as ‘Prejudice’.

Bias is a word used to refer to prejudice of a person in favor or against something. Bias can also referred to as a natural inclination to an opinion or thought that someone holds about something.

You are in fact doing both.

Again, LOL at people new to Bethesda games and their 15 years of dumbing down. They already cut skills. Therefore it's already been dumbed down. So yeah, you were proven wrong.

Ignored.

Bahaha Wow. Talk about Logical Fallacies.

Changed=/= Cut.

He strikes me as a very strange individual. He's been humping logical fallacies a lot lately, even though he commits them a sentence later. He then asks for arguments to refute his own, while presenting his favorite statement: "15 years of dumbing down," with nothing to really support it.

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Fallout 4 will be game of the decade and will thoroughly trounce any would be competitors...this is basically fact.....nomsayin

Easy there killa! Lol

you heard it here first

Consider your words marked sir!

Or until sometimes in 2018

What is actually known about the story, apart from the whole pre-war house thingie and running to the vault? And I don't mean bits and pieces. I don't mean speculation. I mean what do we actually 'know' about the story of Fallout 4? Post-vault; What the hell is the story all about exactly?

As far as I know...imagine a person shrugging their shoulders as hard as they can...

We've seen...Attacking the BOS...Being flown around in a Vertibird by the BOS...what looks to be a late night Movie Version Dr. Manhattan nuclear explosion...Man, the story can go just about anywhere really.

This thread has the potential to be the funiest thread to read through ever! Wyrm prince keep it up! Im expecting big things.

Not as much as I'd like to know, just enough for me to get hyped and a couple of things to be disappointed about to balance out said hype.

that's right how silly of me at least until fallout 5 comes out

Some people build up their straw-men and stick to them, I suppose

we know nothing about this game except that it looks like skyrim with guns and some copy paste elements from mine craft

all the rest is mostly outrageous and wild speculation or made up by the fans and in particular some youtube channels who take even the most absurd thing in the traillers as proof that this and that will be in the game

bethesda silence is not only fuelling these sometimes outrageous speculations and rumours it is also hyping this game to such a level , the expectations of alot of people gone thru the roof and will only lead to dissapointment when the game is released

What I know about Fallout 4, is that it is indeed...the fourth Fallout game. Well, besides New Vegas. And Tactics. And uh...uh...I don't know, I think that's it.

Here's everything I know about Fallout 4

The packaging is made of magic plastic that will grant you three wishes.. but only as long as they aren't duplicate wishes of already wished wishes.

The main plot focuses on gathering up socks in the vast wasteland and then constructing a washing machine in which you will lose half of the socks.

The game A.i. will be able to sense what you are doing in the real world and will utter derogatory comments about you within the game.

You will be able to capture and tame any giraffe you come across in the wastes and then tutor it in the ways of the Jedi.

Every backer will get their own unique in game space ship.

This will be the first fallout of the series to not include skee ball tickets to be turned in for prizes at the prize booth... instead they've created a whole new baseball card system in which you can trade baseball cards to others for baseball cards you don't have.

All stolen money pouches will now have a dye pack which you'll have to learn how to disarm.

All the music was composed by the ghosts of Buddy Holly and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.

If you climb to the tippy top of the tallest mountain you'll have a grand view of Tibet.

Not so sure. Is streamlining a redundant system "dumbing" it down?

It appears to me that they took a look at the two systems they had in place and decided that skills could be incorporated into perks. Skills arn't gone so much as they've merged into a single system. I too was initially put off by the change. When I started to think about it, it seems like this is a case of: "We've always done it this way, so we should keep doing it this way" instead of re-evaluating the reasoning for (or efficiency of) the system.

There is a vocal minority on these boards to whom complexity equals intelligence and simplicity equals dumb.

They can express themselves quite eloquently at times. Their general argument that moving from a form of game play where character abilities determined success to one where player abilities do so changes the game from a pure RPG to a shooter hybrid has actual merit; that's exactly what has happened.

Their inability to accept design changes and simplicity as products of intelligent thinking is a shame, though. If simplifying game play to allow greater enjoyment is 'dumb', then surely Fallout has been dumbed up.

I think there's a bit more to it than "streamlining".

FO3 isn't actually a huge game. There's the main quest, a handful of side quests and some other random things to find. So the skill system worked (just about) for the scope of the game.

TES games have always been more fully developed world's with much more outside the main quest. And it looks like they'll be doing something similar in FO4. That thought may horrify some, but I think it's what they're going for.

So the skill system needed a major overhaul to cater for players who would do a quickish playthrough, and for those who would try to do everything.

The old system was not up to the job, IMO. It had to change. But we'll see how well it works in practice.

There was nothing redundant about skills...

Dumbing down is dumbing down. Again, LOL at people that haven't been here the last 15 years watching it happen.

It's simple math. 3 levels of customization is more than 2. But I don't expect the Skyrim and Fallout 3 come lately to know anything about it.

LOL, Man this is sad to watch. You have fun thinking what you like, and repeating the same statement which is strife with assumptions and ignorance. I'm done speaking to a Proverbial Brick wall.

Well said

I'll give you 3 nickels for 2 quarters any day