If anyone knows any things things about whats coming on in the game perhaps posting it here will help!

• Stealth game play but not as deep like other stealth games.
• Hugh amount of reply value! Dev has done 400hs and still finding things in the game!

Nothing, Jon Snow.

I know that I'm going to enjoy it. I have no idea if I will like it more or less than Fallout 3, but I know I will enjoy it.

What I know about the game:

1) The game is set in Boston.

2) We start the game prior to the Great War married with a child.

3) We make it to the vault and exit approx 200 years later. (BTW, people are, IMO, are taking the whole 200 years thing far too literally)

4) Crafting is in the game.

That's pretty much it...besides that we know there are guns, companions, and really nasty things and people to kill in this game. Just about everything else is speculation, and I'm perfectly fine with it. The less I know, the better.

That it will be dumbed down.

Care to elaborate, or just stick with a blanket statement that'll cover all your bases when (not if) you find something in the game to justify your opinion that it has been "dumbed down".

If by 'dumbed down' you mean it will prove to be a huge leap forward in terms of gameplay, and will probably break the billion-dollar mark then yes, it will definitely be dumbed down.

WE know it has slightly better graphics compared to Fallout 3 , but becaouse 7 years are past, its not what it should be. Then we have voiceed main character witch will ruin immerrsion to many players.Then SimCity simulation , yes you will be able to build settlemants ,because many these days "fans" just love that! probubly they will want to have feature where they can adopt children and babysit them , yes all in postapocalytipc world.Oh,almost forgott ,there has to be gay character! Its after all politicly correct. You will not be able to do what ever you want! Even they will advertise that you can but will not , becaouse political correctnness (its about children in game). Your companion will be invinciblle too... yeah ... great..... so thats it so far ... still over hyped ?

I do declare I think I just learned me the meaning of Sarcasm. I was always a tad fuzzy on its finer points, and now I see the light.

(and I totally agree, man gk never double barrel me...... heh heh that rhymed)

Okay foxmolder, instead of complaining about every little thing you could come up with, why don't you tell us about your fantasy version of a better Fallout 4. I'm sure you have all kinds of ideas

Er, they already cut skills. This is Bethesda, all they do is dumb [censored] down. Nor is it an opinion. It's watching them do it for 15 years. We already saw how dumbed down Skyrim was. Xarnac called it.

Sorry, your argument lost all credibility the second you mentioned the term "dumbed down".

Er, you never had an argument. Hence why you've yet to post one. History and what's already been announced>Wishful hoping on your part.

So were you going to form an argument, or what?

LOL at Bethesda neophytes and the Skyrim/Fallout 3 come lately that didn't know Bethesda's been dumbing down their games for years.

I was always under the impression that wisdom grew with age. Apparently, there are exceptions to the rule.

So were you going to form an argument, or just ad hominems that show you're new to Bethesda gaming?

Edit for accuracy.

So you're just trolling. Got it.

Is the pot calling the kettle black?

The Skill system in the previous games was already so straightforward and shallow 'Dumbing down' isn't an accurate descriptor IMO. But This is the internet, and people love pushing their subjective Bias as Fact. Also He's clearly one of the Salty Old fans that can't comprehend change being anything other than literally satan.

Fallacy. Implying all change is positive.

So was anybody going to form an argument not based around a non sequitur?

^Warning, Massive amounts of Butthurt and obvious prejudicial Bias present.

One of those people that thinks anything that isn't his opinion is wrong... Have fun on your sad, bitter journey, Friend.

I will be waiting until the game launches to form an opinion. Rather than ranting and raving at something you literally know nothing about yet.

So instead of forming an argument you just continue to insult. How charming.

Butthurt? Salty? Are you a twelve year old or do you just play one on these forums?

I will form an argument when the game is out and I can form my own opinion. Unlike you.

Also funny how the Prejudicial Bias part went right over your head, huh?

Sort of hilarious you don't know what either word means.

What do I know?

Everything! Between me and my brother, we know all their is to know about Fallout 4