What do you like more?

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:22 am

Because you're roleplaying. That's your incentive. To experience life as a werewolf. It's a roleplaying game. Compared to realism, gameplay can kiss my ass. It's not an action game.


What stupid logic... "I don't want to enjoy playing a video game".
Whatever, go play your Sims and your Second Life and your reality simulators that aren't any fun and let you experience real life without experiencing real life.
Anyways, what I find the most ridiculous, though, is your arguing with me about the realism of werewolves...
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:41 am

What stupid logic... "I don't want to enjoy playing a video game".
Whatever, go play your Sims and your Second Life and your reality simulators that aren't any fun and let you experience real life without experiencing real life.
Anyways, what I find the most ridiculous, though, is your arguing with me about the realism of werewolves...

I do enjoy playing these games simply because of the experience they provide that no other game can. Because every other game is pretty much obsessed with balancing the gameplay to perfection. It's refreshing to see a developer doing something unique.

P.S. I have highlighted your unnecessary insults in mauve

P.P.S. I don't play Sims or Second Life. I prefer Morrowind, lol. :foodndrink:

P.P.P.S. See Daniel Kay's thread for a crash course on why realism still applies to fantasy themes, like werewolves.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:53 am

I didn't really like either since you never actually felt like your character was actually a werewolf/vampire/both(hey, it happens).

If they were to take the time to actually build in-depth stories and quests and alternate options for the "afflicted" players, then I am ok with either one.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:47 am

I do enjoy playing these games simply because of the experience they provide that no other game can. Because every other game is pretty much obsessed with balancing the gameplay to perfection. It's refreshing to see a developer doing something unique.

P.S. I have highlighted your unnecessary insults in mauve

P.P.S. I don't play Sims or Second Life. I prefer Morrowind, lol. :foodndrink:


I didn't insult you, only your logic... Whatever. I'd rather have fun than experience "actual life as a werewolf", which, by the way, according to the Morrowind devs, is just turning into a werewolf and killing something every night with no variation. I don't see anything unique about that. In fact, it seems incredibly cliché. You know, except for the every night part.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:11 am

If you want to know how to get it, summon or PM Hircine.

I liked that :P

But really, I would love to see a more Daggerfall styled Hircine's Ring. Perhaps it could also have the transformation ability ala Morrowind, but I would love for it to stop me changing, as well. But, I shouldn't get it so easily, like Morrowind. If I want a Daggerfall style Hircine's Ring, I need to do more than the main quest. It should be difficult to obtain. And even harder to cure. FAR too easy to cure lycanthropy in both Daggerfall and Morrowind, imo.

What stupid logic... "I don't want to enjoy playing a video game".
Whatever, go play your Sims and your Second Life and your reality simulators that aren't any fun and let you experience real life without experiencing real life.
Anyways, what I find the most ridiculous, though, is your arguing with me about the realism of werewolves...

Not a the smartest comment I've ever saw...
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:35 am

I didn't insult you, only your logic... Whatever. I'd rather have fun than experience "actual life as a werewolf", which, by the way, according to the Morrowind devs, is just turning into a werewolf and killing something every night with no variation. I don't see anything unique about that. In fact, it seems incredibly cliché. You know, except for the every night part.

Then we have a different idea of fun. So, why do you keep repeating yourself? Simply to get the last word in?

Ok. Fine. I'll go get some coffee.

Post your heart out.

...if it'll end the plague you have brought upon this thread
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:46 am

Not a the smartest comment I've ever saw...

Did you intend to make all those grammatical errors when attempting to insult my intellect?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:35 am

Congradulations, you've just lost all credibility to your argument. I did, in fact, agree with you (about the nightly changing)... I'm leaving this one... <_<
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:49 pm

Then we have a different idea of fun.

OK, of all the times I have mentioned how much of a setback lycanthropy is in this thread, I have noticed you never seemed to disagree with me... However, you DID explain you thought it was "fun" to "experience" being a werewolf "realistically". So how about this: Would you find it "fun" in TES V featured cancer and you got weaker and weaker till you died? I mean you'd actually be experiencing what it's like to have cancer. It would be so fun, right? I mean because if lycanthropy was real, it would be pretty awful. Simulating awfulness firsthand in video games is so fun, isn't it? No, really, I am curious why you think "realistically" experiencing horrible diseases would be fun.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:57 am

OK, of all the times I have mentioned how much of a setback lycanthropy is in this thread, I have noticed you never seemed to disagree with me... However, you DID explain you thought it was "fun" to "experience" being a werewolf "realistically". So how about this: Would you find it "fun" in TES V featured cancer and you got weaker and weaker till you died? I mean you'd actually be experiencing what it's like to have cancer. It would be so fun, right? I mean because if lycanthropy was real, it would be pretty awful. Simulating awfulness firsthand in video games is so fun, isn't it? No, really, I am curious why you think "realistically" experiencing horrible diseases would be fun.


... is it wrong that I would actually enjoy diseases working that way in TES?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:48 pm

... is it wrong that I would actually enjoy diseases working that way in TES?

Nope. So would I. :D

Then again, that aint much worry off your mind. :P
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:51 am

Congradulations, you've just lost all credibility to your argument. I did, in fact, agree with you... I'm leaving this one... <_<

Look man, I could honestly care less about grammatical errors on the internet... However, the fact of the matter is, you DID essentially call my post stupid, and I don't think that's something people receive well. I'm sorry for retaliating, but you shouldn't be surprised...
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:15 am

This has nothing to do with realism... It has everything to do with gameplay. Ffs, realism is not more important than gameplay. Honestly, I couldn't give a crap whether or not a game is the absolute most realistic game in existence. If it's not any fun, then the game svcks. And really, is it too unrealistic for you to give a daytime buff to werewolves? I never asked for the werewolf form to be more powerful, I never asked for the werewolf form to have more abilities... I asked for a significant reason to deal with the enormous drawbacks of being a werewolf... If I am not different save for me not getting to play the normal game every single in-game night, why the hell should I have any incentive to become a werewolf? I really don't understand how my point could be any simpler... I mean how are you not understanding what I'm trying to say? Lycanthropy in Morrowind was a giant hindrance that literally had no benefit and only harmed and interrupted normal gameplay.


Wrong, I love werewolves. That's why I voted "Werewolf", said I voted "Werewolf" earlier, and am trying to make suggestions to improve lycanthropy in future games because I feel Morrowind did an awful job with it. You received no benefits (sure your werewolf form had boosted stats, but it's not like you could do anything), you had to stop everything you were doing every in-game night and then kill a person just to stay alive, you received no reward for killing things except for experience, and you really couldn't risk using any travel services. It wasn't any fun, there was absolutely no upside to it (except for saying "I'm a werewolf"), and it really just gets annoying and is just a giant interruption.


how was it a huge draw back? its not like you are forced to kill important NPCS and I didn't find it a breaking game element or harmed the gameplay at all, if you compare werewolves n vampires in morrowind they were the same,they both had small draw backs but i think vampires had it worse
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:48 pm

... is it wrong that I would actually enjoy diseases working that way in TES?

Well the thing is, I'd enjoy it too. However, I wouldn't ENJOY having the disease. It would be a cool side to the game, but I wouldn't seek out diseases, nor would I refuse to cure them. They hinder me. Similarly, I can't understand how people ENJOYED being a werewolf in Morrowind. If lycanthropy was real and was like how it is in Morrowind, don't you think people would try to cure it? Do you see what I'm saying?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:19 am

What stupid logic... "I don't want to enjoy playing a video game".
Whatever, go play your Sims and your Second Life and your reality simulators that aren't any fun and let you experience real life without experiencing real life.
Anyways, what I find the most ridiculous, though, is your arguing with me about the realism of werewolves...


Ok I feel like this is getting out of hand here, you are allowed to disagree but calling users/posts/(insulding in general) names is not Ok. Settle Down!

Besides, I happen to enjoy the sims, and I think what he was trying to say (what he did say) was that Role Playing is how to get the most out of the game,atleast imo it is, I love role playing as a werewolf and it adds more elements to the game, sure i don't like transforming every night in Vanilla Morrowind but oh wells, i can still RP with it and enjoy the game:)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:37 am

how was it a huge draw back? its not like you are forced to kill important NPCS and I didn't find it a breaking game element or harmed the gameplay at all, if you compare werewolves n vampires in morrowind they were the same,they both had small draw backs but i think vampires had it worse


Name 5 reasons being a werewolf in Morrowind was a good thing. Here's what I got for werewolves and vampires:

Vampires
Stat bonuses
More spells and skills
Ability to join a clan, complete with more stat bonuses and a chain of quests
Increased resistances (except to fire)
Doesn't really affect normal gameplay. You can still do almost everything you could as a normal person as you can as a vampire at any time (sun makes things harder, but not impossible)

Werewolves
Get to say "Hey man, I'm a werewolf. Isn't that awesome?"

Drawbacks for each:

Vampires
Sun damage
Weaker to fire

Werewolves
Can't do anything at night
Have to kill one NPC every single day just to live
No stat bonuses as a normal character
Use of travel services can be difficult

I mean there are more drawbacks for each, those just came from the top of my head. Look, I like werewolves better. However, Morrowind's idea of a werewolf was no fun.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:50 am

Well the thing is, I'd enjoy it too. However, I wouldn't ENJOY having the disease. It would be a cool side to the game, but I wouldn't seek out diseases, nor would I refuse to cure them. They hinder me. Similarly, I can't understand how people ENJOYED being a werewolf in Morrowind. If lycanthropy was real and was like how it is in Morrowind, don't you think people would try to cure it? Do you see what I'm saying?


If it was real than my dreams would come true, if I turned every night like in Morrowind than I would learn to live with it, maybe get more sleep in, who knows what I could do:)
But really some people (like me) still enjoying being a werewolf, I love it for one cuz I am so obsessed with them even in my advlt life, I love wolves as animals so why wouldn't I love werewolves?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:47 am

If it was real than my dreams would come true, if I turned every night like in Morrowind than I would learn to live with it, maybe get more sleep in, who knows what I could do:)
But really some people (like me) still enjoying being a werewolf, I love it for one cuz I am so obsessed with them even in my advlt life, I love wolves as animals so why wouldn't I love werewolves?

So you would be a-ok with killing one human person every night and feel absolutely no guilt? You would just "learn to live with it"? You wouldn't have a single care about the your safety or the safety of others?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:18 pm

Name 5 reasons being a werewolf in Morrowind was a good thing. Here's what I got for werewolves and vampires:

Vampires
Stat bonuses
More spells and skills
Ability to join a clan, complete with more stat bonuses and a chain of quests
Increased resistances (except to fire)
Doesn't really affect normal gameplay. You can still do almost everything you could as a normal person as you can as a vampire at any time (sun makes things harder, but not impossible)

Werewolves
Get to say "Hey man, I'm a werewolf. Isn't that awesome?"

Drawbacks for each:

Vampires
Sun damage
Weaker to fire

Werewolves
Can't do anything at night
Have to kill one NPC every single day just to live
No stat bonuses as a normal character
Use of travel services can be difficult

I mean there are more drawbacks for each, those just came from the top of my head. Look, I like werewolves better. However, Morrowind's idea of a werewolf was no fun.


I guess no stackable bonuses is a draw back but I don't [censored] and complain about a video game, I learn to live with what I have and accept and love it for what it is...I still enjoy playing as a werewolf, even when I get the Oblivion game for PC and become one in there I won't be using anything to change it
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:51 am

I guess no stackable bonuses is a draw back but I don't [censored] and complain about a video game, I learn to live with what I have and accept and love it for what it is...I still enjoy playing as a werewolf, even when I get the Oblivion game for PC and become one in there I won't be using anything to change it

I fail to see how I am [censored]ing and complaining about a video game... What, do you think it's wrong to criticize work where it's faulty and offer suggestions and input on how it can be improved?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:14 am

So you would be a-ok with killing one human person every night and feel absolutely no guilt? You would just "learn to live with it"? You wouldn't have a single care about the your safety or the safety of others?



I didn't say that, I said I would learn to live with transforming everynight, I could chain myself up to keep from killing someone and lets say if I have no control even though in Morrowind you do since its a game, like if I killed someone of course I would have guilt about it and yes I would worry about my safety and the safety of the ones I care but I see people dieing on the news all the time and 90% of the time I feel bad for them and stuff but the rest of the time I just plain don't care..
Call me insensitive for this but its just how I grew up, its just how my brain works, if I don't personally know them than I just generally don't care....And besides if I HAD to feed on humans everynight or I would die than how would you go about me getting a live human? I am not just willing to go out and die without a fight.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:36 am

I fail to see how I am [censored]ing and complaining about a video game... What, do you think it's wrong to criticize work where it's faulty and offer suggestions and input on how it can be improved?


It seems all you have been doing is [censored]ing and complain about this since you got into my thread.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:06 pm

I didn't say that, I said I would learn to live with transforming everynight, I could chain myself up to keep from killing someone and lets say if I have no control even though in Morrowind you do since its a game, like if I killed someone of course I would have guilt about it and yes I would worry about my safety and the safety of the ones I care but I see people dieing on the news all the time and 90% of the time I feel bad for them and stuff but the rest of the time I just plain don't care..
Call me insensitive for this but its just how I grew up, its just how my brain works, if I don't personally know them than I just generally don't care....And besides if I HAD to feed on humans everynight or I would die than how would you go about me getting a live human? I am not just willing to go out and die without a fight.

If it truly is your dream to become a werewolf than why would you suggest chaining yourself up during your wolf form? Wouldn't that kind of destroy the whole point of being a werewolf? Also, know why you don't feel bad when you see people die on the news? Because you are not responsible for their death... Don't you think you might feel a little differently seeing someone get shot and killed on the news than you would if you were the one who shot and killed someone? Especially if you didn't even have anything against them and didn't want to kill them... As for your last question, I am a little concerned... I would hope you would actually attempt to find a cure before just saying "I put myself first" and then going on a nocturnal carnivorous rampage.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:33 am

lol
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:46 am

If it truly is your dream to become a werewolf than why would you suggest chaining yourself up during your wolf form? Wouldn't that kind of destroy the whole point of being a werewolf? Also, know why you don't feel bad when you see people die on the news? Because you are not responsible for their death... Don't you think you might feel a little differently seeing someone get shot and killed on the news than you would if you were the one who shot and killed someone? Especially if you didn't even have anything against them and didn't want to kill them... As for your last question, I am a little concerned... I would hope you would actually attempt to find a cure before just saying "I put myself first" and then going on a nocturnal carnivorous rampage.


Id only chain myself up if I felt I needed to like I would hurt my family or friends,ect...

Nah, no cure for me, whats the point?

Also this was just about ur complying alot and me just wanting you to stop not you going on about my dream
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