what do you think about the morality of ether faction

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:35 pm

just because you think a side is bad dose not stop you from playing as them. the previous faction question was about side you will be playing as.
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Emma Parkinson
 
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:13 pm

Hasn't this topic already been done...? Look at "What faction will you play as."
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:47 am

Hasn't this topic already been done...? Look at "What faction will you play as."

Ofcourse, Every topic about resistance or security is about why people play which side, who they consider the good and the bad guys, who looks best..
I don't see the need for yet another topic.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:56 am

The game is designed so that neither side is good or bad, that's something SD wanted. Both sides are doing what they think is RIGHT, which is admirable, but still different than "good and bad".

If you did a little research into the game, it turns out that there are actually two separate story lines. For example, in container city, Security will be trying to secure a dirty bomb that the resistance is making, but when you play on the resistance side, the mission will be to defend a vaccine. If both sides weren't fighting for what they thought was right before, then the divergent story line will make sure of it.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:37 am

Wait, what? How would that even work?

Wouldn't that mean the Security would not attack the thing the Resistance is defending, but instead attacking something else? This seems to work in Part I and probably II of Container City, but definately seems odd in the later stages.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:29 am

No, they are attacking the same thing...it's just the Security THINKS they're capturing a dirty bomb, while the Resistance THINKS they're defending a vaccine. It's hinted that one (or both) sides' commanders are feeding their troops false information so they true to their respective causes.

Like if Security knew they were taking an important vaccine away from the Resistance, some might join up with the rebels, while Resistance members who know they are defending a dirty bomb might start another Resistance faction to prevent nuclear destruction.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:49 pm

Wait, what? How would that even work?

Wouldn't that mean the Security would not attack the thing the Resistance is defending, but instead attacking something else? This seems to work in Part I and probably II of Container City, but definately seems odd in the later stages.

No, you got it wrong.
When you play container city as security, your mission is to find a container, containing a bomb, that's what the mission says. When you play the same map as resistance, then your mission is defend that same container. However, your mission says: Defend the vaccine.
They are fighting for the same thing (What's in the container) but one sides thinks there's a bomb inside it, while the other thinks it's a cure.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:57 am

No, you got it wrong.
When you play container city as security, your mission is to find a container, containing a bomb, that's what the mission says. When you play the same map as resistance, then your mission is defend that same container. However, your mission says: Defend the vaccine.
They are fighting for the same thing (What's in the container) but one sides thinks there's a bomb inside it, while the other thinks it's a cure.


^ This.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:34 am

I agree with BOTH factions. The Resistance are fighting for their equal share of food and water, but they are still getting rations... But the Security is simply trying to keep law and order.
I will play both, but I'm more Security, because they just look badass.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:03 pm

Imagine that you and about 200 of your acquaintances are all living together in container city. You has decided that you are fed up with how they are being treated by the man that owns this floating city, and not knowing whether or not the owner of this magnificent vessel are living under much the same circumstances, albeit with a marked cosmetic difference, you decide that you want to live as equals. The building that you and your 200 friends have been living in, eating his food, drinking his water and generally freeloading off. You tire of doing the chores that the owner has set you about, and like petulant children you demand that he give you an allowance. He says no. The greatest crime of all. so you pitch a fit, scream and yell, and generally bemoan your station. So the man slaps you and tells you to shut up and get back to your duties.

In short the Resistance is acting like a spoiled teenager that wants his way and will do anything to get it.

That is how the Security sees them. And who can say that this is not a valid argument?

Of cause the Security have probably been surrounded by propaganda, or has been specifically sheltered from the life of average Joe Ark.

I dislike being seen as a child throwing a tantrum, so will educate the Security Oppressors with 7.62mm goodness.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:04 am

Personally, I think both are good and bad. I'll be playing as the Resistance more because I like their Gear and most of the Resistance stuff in the Pre-Order packs looks much cooler.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:16 pm

Personally, I think both are good and bad. I'll be playing as the Resistance more because I like their Gear and most of the Resistance stuff in the Pre-Order packs looks much cooler.

i'm the opposite i'll be preferring security because a garbage bag is not bullet proof....it's a cosmetic flaw, sure, but i'll know it's ludicrous

edit: especially now i know the amount of gear your weaing matters and each faction sounds different...if i had to contend with garbage bag rustling everywhere i went i'd save the enemy the trouble....
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:10 am

The devs made it so it's good vs. good. I don't like the options on the poll.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:27 pm

Then vote Good for both of them.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:21 am

The Resistance really isn't helping the cause by pulling out the guns.....idc what their motive is. Sun Tzu deff wouldn't approve of the Resistance's movement. Security all the way :nod:
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:34 pm

The Resistance really isn't helping the cause by pulling out the guns.....idc what their motive is. Sun Tzu deff wouldn't approve of the Resistance's movement. Security all the way :nod:

Just for the sake of the discussion: Staying on the ark means certain dead sooner or later, so basically they HAVE TO do something.
Sun Tzu has nothing to say anymore, he's dead :P
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:46 pm

Resistance wants out of the Ark and the Police are trying to hold what peace and justice they can. If the Founders give the resistance the supplies they need to leave, it could be the end of them due to the already low supplies available. Also if they leave then the Ark will go down and they will die anyway. It also may not be possible for both factions to leave at once and this is causing unrest. Again we just won't know until the game comes out so leave this topic be until then, story ideas and assumptions aren't worth the time.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:25 pm

Just for the sake of the discussion: Staying on the ark means certain dead sooner or later, so basically they HAVE TO do something.
Sun Tzu has nothing to say anymore, he's dead :P

:whisper: His spirit still roams around some of us
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:35 pm

Again we just won't know until the game comes out so leave this topic be until then, story ideas and assumptions aren't worth the time.

Some of us don't want to leave this topic be. Absolutely nothing wrong with story ideas and assumptions. That's what discussion forums are for.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:12 pm

securety


But... and... what? :blink:
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:39 am

I dislike being seen as a child throwing a tantrum, so will educate the Security Oppressors with 7.62mm goodness.


couldn't agree more :) i will play through both campaigns though, because i really like what SD is trying to do with the story.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:08 pm

Resistance is horrible. They are just a bunch of rebels who should be being thankful instead of rebelling. If they were grateful they would not at all act the way they do.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:17 pm

I think they're both in the wrong.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:46 am

Resistance is horrible. They are just a bunch of rebels who should be being thankful instead of rebelling. If they were grateful they would not at all act the way they do.

Yes, they would sit idly by, while the Founders/Security approach to the crisis remains, "we'll just wait it out," while resources continue to diminish and no progress is made.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:31 pm

Resistance is horrible. They are just a bunch of rebels who should be being thankful instead of rebelling. If they were grateful they would not at all act the way they do.

Normally I wouldn't do this but
What is this, I don't even...
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