Which diet-y isn't he?

To ask what Sithis "looks like" is to miss the point.

To understand the nature of Sithis, I begin with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubin_vase. Decide which is the subject, and which is the void that is not the subject. Now imagine that this part has a soul. That is Sithis. I'm fairly certain the very idea of "looks like" exists in a subgradiant below Sithis, so to ask what Sithis "looks like" is like a painting wondering what kind paint the person gazing at it was made from.

If you take the words like darkness, chaos, black, and void you get Namira and Nocturnal. To think of of Sithis as nothing is to deny the view of the Argonians. Sithis begat Lorkhan, as such the Hist worship Seth. It's in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_mononucleosis myth.

Ignore the statue. It's a personification. It looks like Sithis the same way that the stained glass windows of the Aedra look like them... which is to say, not at all. The Aedra have no bodies but they are at least understandable and they can manifest in dreams and the like. Sithis is pure nothingness, the embodiment of chaos, with no physical form and no mind comprehendable by mortals.

The whole Dark Brotherhood deal in Oblivion is essentially a practical joke that Mephala pulled off. He is rolling on the floor laughing her ass off over it because it went off so beautifully.

Lorkhan is a begotten son by the standard of the Argonians. Lorkhan clearly had a body, and Lorkhan clearly being the derivation of his father strongly implies that Seth had a body. Lorkhan's very blood is Ebony armor for crying out loud! His father was surely once of similar status. There is a physical component of this being, but no more physical than Vivic ever was of course.

Had a body is the key word. Remember, the Aedra lost their bodies as a result of the creation of Mundus, which is why Lorkhan had to trick/convince them into doing it. As for Sithis... think about it. It's the very embodiment of chaos. Does it make sense for Chaos itself to have a singular concrete shape? Of course not.

Sithis has been worked on by several designers at different times. In Daggerfall Sithis was just another god, coincidently the patron of the Dark Brotherhood. Emil thought of Sithis as Dark version of God with matching virgin and child. MK though depicted Sithis as a fundamental force.

The connection between the two is a philosophy class gone wrong. http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/chaos.shtml explains the relation. Now the Statue of Sithis gives good evidence to show that Sithis is embodied by Lorkhan. Which metaphysically speaking, has always been a given fact. In this case the connection with death works through the creation of Mundus, with Mundus Lorkhan brought mortality back to the Aurbis. Immortal gods could die again as they did before the dawn of time.

This also rationalizes the idea of Mephala as the Nightmother as only together with Lorkhan she can be the mother of Murder.

So in short:

Darkbrotherhood: Sithis is a fridge with the door closed.
Crimson Fangs: Sithis is look like Grim-Reaper Lorkhan.
Everybody else:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drE5cHe6c3s

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Please dont use the word Goth use Gothic instead, there is nothing so far that have looked like a Goth in any mod made.

Anyway Sithis is the IS-NOT.

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Since the Et'ada are the Original Spirits, Lorkhan was begat by Padomay (plus Anu). So Sithis is a description of half the universe, which is why the Dark Brotherhood mainly talk about being in the dark. Lorkhan, on the other hand, can be seen as Padomay's agent on Aedric Mundus.

*High Five* Go someone who actually understands Sithis!

No. SITH-IS.

I wouldn't quite say that, they're a large group. Just beacuse Oblivion portrayed them as small doesn't mean they are, beacuse afterall oblivion if EVERYTHING wrong.

Maybe Sithis is what you want him to be and look like how you want him to look like. As he have no form and content, your mind creates Sithis.

No, that's not really how he works. You can't create him, he is nothing. He is not anything. He is the IS-NOT, as it has been said. You can't think him up as something, because that is a lie. If you worship him, you are either worshipping something else, or are the Hist

You can't create a god with belief, either. I can get thousands of Tamriellians to worship the flying spaghetti monster, but that doesn't make him an Aedra. Some other daedra could easily answer our prayers with deception, but that does not make them a flying spaghetti monster. The daedric princes were already in existance before the mortals that utilized their ideals. It has been commonly stated that there could be a hundred other princes, the mortals just don't have any of their qualities because we simply cannot imagine what they would be.

But going back to Sithis, for the last time, you cannot give him aspects. He is not a thing. I belive Hellmouth pretty much said it. I too offer a high five.

The argument about whether Sithis is a dark god that looks like Lorkhan, or is nothingness, or a void, or an agent of chaos, it a bit like the argument about whether God is a dude in the sky with a white beard, or an impersonal force, or the laws of nature personified, or what not. Probably all the depictions of Sithis are both right and wrong to differing degrees, none of them totally right, none of them totally wrong.

For example, a "picture" of Sithis (for example, the statue), could, and SHOULD, be considered totally wrong as a straight visual depiction. However, it could also be a truer-than-language description of Sithis. Describing him as "the void" could be considered "more" accurate, except in that it depersonifies him, and as he exists at a gradient higher than our own consciousness (or so it is generally assumed), depersonification could be more wrong than making a statue. Dark Brotherhood descriptions could be a bit like "blind-man describing an elephant", the result of a very limited personal experience of something much bigger than themselves.

In the end, every last one of us is a bacterium trying to describe the man we inhabit.

Even that small group in-game has some pretty diverse beliefs about him, though. As a whole, the believers in the organization probably imprint on everything from the (very real) Night Mother to another facet of Lorkhan to the Argonian reverence for Padomay.

Its important to remember that just because the Hist acknowledge Sithis, this does not mean they worship him. As said by another, each myth acknowledges a sithis.

Why yes, who'd go about not acknowledging half the Aurbis. Even if it's the uncool half that wears dark clothing and black make-up because people don't get it. It's the duality of IS-COOL and IS-NOT-COOL.

I guess that means "Sithis" = The Night Mother though doesn't it? Hence Sithis is real, at least in that sense. Beyond the Night Mother there isn't a Sithis. The concept doesn't exist. Just by giving nothing a name you have a new concept that is something and thus not nothing.

Sithis isn't "nothing" beacuse nothing can't be identified. Sithis really is "the cold of winter" or "the blood of my victims" or whatever weird stuff the db said he was.

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Isn't Sithis sentient nothingness? Or, as little sense as that makes, the personification of nothing? There are qualities that can be attributed to nothingness. Nothingness is the absence of something. Dryness is the absence of moisture, so Sithis must be dry. Cold is the absence of heat, so Sithis must be cold. Darkness is the absence of light, so Sithis must be dark. Death could be considered the absence of life, so there's no reason why death could not be associated with him/her/it.

On the other hand, I never understood how a void was supposed to be chaotic, and be the opposite of stasis. One would thing that part of being a void would be to be in perpetual stasis. It's really hard to make sense of Sithis.

It's not that bad. When the guy they're calling Sithis looks like Lorkhan, with Lorkhan having done or made possible made everything they idealize in their worship, they're probably worshipping Lorkhan not Sithis.

When they were still with the Morag Tong, Sithis was more properly treated as a philosophical concept. That the concept became an object of worship isn't that odd for a degenerative cult. In this case it's not even that far off, considering Lorkhan is considered the soul of Sithis.

From the Arena game manual:

The Dark Brotherhood are loyal followers of Sithis, the God of Death. They are sworn to uphold the tenements of Chaos. They are vicious foes to those who would follow the roads of Law, often patrolling outer paths and byways for unwary travelers. It is said that the Brotherhood does not associate with any other group, contesting even the Necromancers are not true to word of the Dark God. They instead work towards what they call a pure form of Chaos. Few have faced them and escaped with their souls intact.

It almost seems as if Oblivion tries to portray the Dark Brotherhood as it was in Arena. If people want Sithis to be "the God of Death" again, at least have 'him' be like Death in the Final Destination movies.

He, or rather It, is black and green strings on 1s and 0s.