:shrug: Probably.

Actually I read something in school about atmospheric pressure effecting clumsiness, laziness, reaction-time, and the general way people act. So that could have to do with it.


I could have sworn you said something about Oxen the first time I read that.

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I love both games, but I spend more time playing Oblivion because I mod in Oblivion.

And I can roleplay more easily in Oblivion, no idea why but I find RPing awkward in Morrowind.

I know, I did. :facepalm: I forgot what thread this was. I though it was the Suggestions thread since I was having an off topic discussion with Seti there too.

It would be fun to have Oxen and Yaks in Skyrim.

Morrowind always wins, why do we have these?

The results are predictable, so I'm not sure why we have them.

The usual(from most votes at the top to least votes at the bottom):

Morrowind
Oblivion
Daggerfall
Arena

They would be... Hmm... I wonder if I could model one.

What would you use for the animations?

Sheep/Ram?

I can't even imagine a game coming out in this day and age without voice acting

Once again I direct your attention to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moores_law and the possibilities that lie beyond. We are now in a completely different age of gaming to that in which Oblivion was released

Voice acting is ambience, AI is important to me, I hate feeling like I'm the center of the world. Unfortunately, it's extremely rare to find an RPG these days that doesn't do this, but Oblivion was one of the few. Yes, it could've been done better, there could've been more actors for each race or they could've atleast tried to make the voices a bit varied - I'm using ametuer voice actors for my mod and some of them can pull off about ten different voices without it sounding unnatural. Sure, the standards are different for a user made mod than they are for a commercial release, but still

Radiant AI never saw the light of day because of hilarious flaws (Actor A wants rake, Actor B has rake, Actor A kills Actor B in order to attain rake)

But you CAN imagine a game lacking in content, with half the game cut out, that looses so much potential? Voice acting is too much for and open sandbox RPG with hundreds of quests with various outcomes. I'd have no problem if it's on multiple discs, but it doesn't seem like we will.

But radiant AI is in the game, just a little toned back from what they originally had. If you set an NPC schedule for them to eat at a certain time, they do the rest. They'll find the food themselves, the same happens with sleeping. Just recently I was playing Oblivion and I saw Ongar stealing food from Olav's Tap and Tack, and they caught him. He just kind of walk away and nobody did anything for about 20 seconds until a guard came running in and it seemed live Ongar just payed him off or something because he just walked away.

Yes I can see how voice acting does cut other potential content from the game, but like I said it's still important to me and I'd hate to see it go. It's just an opinion, and I can see how other people would prefer no voice acting and more content



Yeah I know and I've defended this point before, I was just referring to the actual Radiant AI project and the results of that

I understand your point, but surely you can't prioritise voices over actual game content? Personally, I would be completely neutral on the whole thing if it didn't cut into everything else. Voices are just one of those things I don't like, but I don't hate. Pretty "meh" to me. Apart from the cutting into everything.


When people refer to "radiant AI", they're usually referring to what Oblivion was supposed to have. The likes of the E3 demo.

I prioritise them over some game content, yes, but it's just a matter of opinion

It depends what we would get for getting rid of voice-overs. If they would add even more dungeons and forts, then Cyrodiil would look even more cramped. However, if they would create new quests, items, landmass, objects etc., then I would have nothing against it - actually, it's the opposite, as I would be a proponent of adding more content instead of voice-overs.

I liked voice-overed dialogues, but they are not the most important thing in cRPG games. In a highly-moddable setting Oblivion is, I think they are more of a constraint than an addon, because it can be immersion-breaking to talk to silent, mod-added NPCs (who are often much more fleshed out than Vanilla ones) who have many things to say and then walk to a commoner and hear unique, voice-overed greeting (and not much else). Moreover, there were moments were even the devs didn't bother with detailed voice-overs, because beggars used completely different voices when asking for coin and informing you about latest rumours.

Oh please. That E3 Radiant AI must've been totally staged - and if it wasn't, it was probably cut so that by the time you got to Chorrol the city wouldn't have been in ashes from everybody casting Flare on one another when they interrupt their reading time.


Not to mention most people haven't played all of them to begin with, so on a larger scale the poll is more, "which TES games are you aware of the existence of?"

It'd be great if everybody who cast votes in these polls had tried all four of the main installments, and they'd start with Arena to negate the usual preference towards the first TES game you play.

It could be because of the casting, I'm not sure, they always have the same people voice in all the games, I'm skeptic about it, because there's really no way to tell, we don't know how much had to be redone. I think the overall lack of variety (even though there actually is some), had to do with them having difficulty translating their ideas into actual practicality, specifically refering to the "radiant" A.I. On top of that, they had short deadline, I hate deadlines, when ever I see something which doesn't make sense to not have, I usually blame the deadline. For example, in the emperial city, there's a feud between two families, but it's not fleshed out at all, you don't actually see it or experience it, it just kind of hanging there, like a sentence left unfini

I think Beth should do like Blizzard, and simply say, "it's done when it's done".

shivering isles.

awesome landscape, awesome tombs, awesome quests.. I just love it.

OB, MW, DF.. I enjoy them all equally depending on what mood Im in.


Daggerfall for just a quick dungeon crawl while im waiting for my dinner to cook.

Morrowind for playing from saturday morning to sunday night with the curtains closed and my phone off.

Oblivion for starting new characters.

What? You enjoy playing in the starting dungeon?

Exactly! :goodjob:

Oblivion's character generation phase was really fun and great.
So much options to change your appearance, and tweak facial features, for each race.
Like trying to make Wood Elves that looked like those sharp faced Bosmers from Morrowind.
That was my favorite part as well.

Well, I had to vote for Bloodmoon. Mainly because it had horkers.

I must have made 100 characters in Oblivion but I only played fully as like 16-25.

I found both Oblivion's and Morrowind's character generation process rather boring, to be honest. Although I like creating various new characters, I hate playing "tutorials". Morrowind's one was at least a bit shorter, although tutorial messages got old pretty fast in MW, too.

That's why they should add "Skip Tutorial" option in the next game. In Oblivion's terms, it would place us just outside of the sewers. In MW's terms, it would place us just outside Census and Excise office.

Back to the topic - I loved Morrowind, its expansions AND Shivering Isles expansion for Oblivion. All those titles had some flaws, but they were really great in terms of atmosphere, lore and role-playing potential (although it always was better with mods, of course). I didn't play Daggerfall and I don't plan to until DaggerXL project is finished - it looks like a good game and those locations seem to be HUGE. I want to check whether such "generic" game can still be playable and fun in XXIst century. Arena was more like "meh". I usually forget about that game when talking about TES, anyway.

Actually, just a short and simple chargen ala Morrowind would solve all problems. And if you'd play Arena/Daggerfall, especially Arena, you'd soon realise just how small Oblivion's chargen is . (not that I don't agree with you)

I played Arena, but it was extremely boring. MW's chargen was better than Oblivion's for veteran players, but it still took too much time. It should be done in few clicks if one desires.

As long as there's face-gen I don't care if I wake up in the middle of a field with a book describing how to play the game...

Okay maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but if the chargen has nothing to do with the main quest, or is indirectly involved, then I'll be happy.