I'm talking about more than Oblivion, which can include, but is not limited to, Morrowind's level of customization.

Why exactly don't you want it? And yeah, we're talking about armor slots and such.

And before you say "There's a million threads on this" I know, but I haven't seen any for why you don't want it.

You mean... why would I want it?

Nah, I mean there's options for it, but there are people that say it's bad, and I want a thread to know why.

I want more than Morrowind.
But Morrowind was nice...

I want higher than morrowind costimization, I think the content of a game should be improved every addition. (btw, imo graphics dont = content, graphics are graphics and if you don't have enough custimization and content you are buying a very pretty game but a crap rpg)

Who are these people that don't like customization in an Elder Scrolls game?

Why do you think i use a PC but not a Apple ? why do you think i play elder scrolls? :flamethrower:

besides, who hates custimization. I don't know of many people who want some one else tell them what to wear or do, (in fact I know none) almost any one would say they prefer to do what they want to do and in what ever way they feel like.

I couldn't tell you then. I'm a huge fan of customization and wide varieties of items. The only reason I could think of why people wouldn't want a higher level of customization is because they're afraid that there might be too many things and not enough detail.

I can't think of a single reason for less customization :shrug:

(must resist flamebait) Linux!!! Microcrap is just as dumbed down as Mac, except you don't get the superior file storage

Oh well, I plan on running around with a naked default character anyway...

I think OS is dependant upon the person. I had Linux and it svcked for me because it requires knowledge of how to use linux, I am not a big tech guy so I'd rather leave that stuff to the OS. lots of free ware tho which is nice. this is kinda on topic because its slightly about custimization

Personally? I don't care either way. If it stays like Oblivion, then fine. I won't need to work so hard to find a full set of armour. If it becomes more like Morrowind, then why [censored]? Everyone else is in the same boat and for some of them it's sinking. Nobody likes having to find a full set of armour.

As for enchantment stacking, easy: just make it impossible to enchant anything other than cuirasses, greaves and boots and then up the percentage of enchantment by a little to compensate for only being able to enchant three. Same enchantment balance as Oblivion; same customisation as Morrowind. Where's the problem now?

The only reason I will not abide is simplicity. As intelligent human beings, we should be able to handle complexity. Choosing not to is not a reason to remove options from those who like a broad range to choose from. There are other ways to cater to simplicity than enforcing it on everyone.

That's not true. I for one found it entertaining and rewarding to set out to try and find a full set of rarer armor.

Finding all the daedric helms and armor (in morrowind) was so much fun. I loved it.

not to mention that it made them more valuable compared to other armors. besides, low level armor was not hard to get whole sets for any ways (at first had trouble getting both pauldrons) but they can be bought as well as found on enemies. getting a whole set in MW had more to do with the fact that every thing was set and there was very few randomized loot, getting whole sets for amor in OB was easier because armor was constantly generated on enemies, not because there was less to a set.

I would like to Multi vote but since I cant I just went with more then Oblivion

I find your choice of all of the things I said in there to comment on most interesting...

How about after you've lost count of how many times you've had to do that? Or if it means dedicating the better part of a day to finding them? I was referring specifically to when you do so from necessity rather than when you do so because you want to.

Could you maybe comment on the more important stuff I said? I was mostly emphasising why anyone complaining about having to find their armour and citing it as a reason why there should be less customisation would be selfish and unfair seeing as everyone else has to do the same.

It doesn't matter. I'm sure you know I wasn't trying to say there's anything wrong with enjoying it.

Yes, who are these people, besides the Devs?...j/k

Since this is obviously about enchanting rather than looks or other functions I have to vote:
Enchantment stacking makes the PC too powerful

Although, it's not really the "becoming too powerful" part that worries me, but how the then required balancing makes everything appear weak and uninspired, simply because it has to. Put limits on enchanting - like, if I'm a master enchanter I'm still not capable of making anything of legendary or artifact quality. It may help me in various ways, but never become uber because of it (or any other skill for that matter).

The rules of stacking should change too. Rather than being additive, the effect of the next item you add will be halfed. So you have three items at 20% resistance. Instead of it becoming 60%, it becomes 20% + 10% + 5%. Now, is it really worth spending that extra item to obtain that extra 5%, taking you from 30% to 35%? If you already have a racial bonus of 40% resistance, the first item is halved from its original value (to prevent overstacking). Each spell might also have a builtin max effect? Who knows...

I want as much customization as possible

Id like too see Morrowind style customization.

Enchanting and enchantment stacking was never too powerful and doesnt need any change.
Pauldrons were never able to hold a CE enchantment, I see no reason why that should change.

Took me awhile of reading the thread to translate "customization" into "piecemeal armor". When I first saw the thread I figured it was about character customization - i.e, facegen/tattoos/scars/etc.
(well, that, or being able to alter in-game armor with things like spikes or dyes.....)



Yeah, I like piecemeal armor. Always annoying when someone puts out a set of mod armor for OB and it's not cut up into parts. (And going back to having separate pauldrons would be great, because then I could leave the darn things off! )

More customizations is one of the most important things they NEED to imrpove upon in Skyrim. If they don't I cannot tell you how disapointed i will be