Whats causing my CTD? : IV

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:56 am

Whenever i load or start a game, after about a minute, it CTD's here's my load order:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]02  DLCShiveringIsles.esp03  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]04  PW_MorrowindFog.esp05  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp06  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]07  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 1.0.1]08  Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp09  Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp0A  DLCHorseArmor.esp0B  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]0C  DLCOrrery.esp0D  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]0E  DLCVileLair.esp0F  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]10  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp11  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]12  DLCSpellTomes.esp13  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]14  300_Classes.esp15  RealBanditsAndHighwaymen.esp16  DLCThievesDen.esp17  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]18  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]19  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]1A  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]1B  TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp  [Version 1.39c]1C  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]1D  TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp  [Version 1.39c]1E  TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp  [Version 1.39c]1F  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]20  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]21  cyrodiil transportation network 1.3 wz.esp22  Castle.Bedwyr 1.0.0.esp23  EvilLair.esp24  Pats Business Mod.esp25  DLCFrostcrag.esp26  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]27  DLCFrostcrag_MysticEmporiumPatch.esp28  Knights.esp29  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]2A  MannimarcoComplete.esp2B  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]2C  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]2D  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]2E  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]2F  100% Harvest Chance Shivering Isles.esp30  haz_encumbrance_x1.5.esp31  Mighty Magick - Core.esp  [Version 1.2]32  Mighty Magick - Skills.esp  [Version 1.2]33  Mighty Magick - Magicka Pool Progression.esp  [Version 1.2]34  Mighty Magick - Side Effects.esp  [Version 1.2]35  Mighty Magick - Sigil Stones.esp  [Version 1.2]36  Mighty Magick - Restore Magicka Potions [Vanilla].esp  [Version 1.2]37  Spells Be Effective.esp38  RenGuardOverhaul.esp39  Delayed Main Quest.esp3A  Lich.esp3B  001WizardHouse.esp3C  ModestTowerEng.esp3D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I know i don't have the uop, i'm in the process of downloading it now

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:36 am

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» Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:41 pm

Have you BOSS'ed your load order? If not try that. It may have suggestions in BOSSlog.txt that you should follow.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:13 am

If it is that quick sounds like a mod still initializing. Did you do anything to the DLC BSA files? I once had a corrupt BSAA from battlehorn which cause a similar behavior.
Since you have so few mods, uninstall the latest ones working down one by one until it stops. Shouldn't take too long.

Also, what version of wrye bash are you using and are you using cbash? I have a problem with the lates cbash that would caus eme to CTD when exiting IC.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:37 am

No, i didn't do anything to the DLC BSA. I've tried uninstalling my most recent ones that i can remember, and same thing. that didn't work so i re-enabled those mods and included them in the bashed patch, and now, it CTD's while its loading up. guess i can always try a clean install if we cant solve this.

cbash? i don't know what that is. and i'm using the most recent version of wrye bash

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:56 am

No, i didn't do anything to the DLC BSA. I've tried uninstalling my most recent ones that i can remember, and same thing. that didn't work so i re-enabled those mods and included them in the bashed patch, and now, it CTD's while its loading up. guess i can always try a clean install if we cant solve this.

cbash? i don't know what that is. and i'm using the most recent version of wrye bash

Well I do not think you need a clean re-install. If you are using BAIN just uninstall in there and then install one by one from the top to bottom of load order to find the one causing it. This works for me.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:14 pm

unfortunately, i'm not using BAIN as i'm still kind of new to the modding scene.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:14 am

unfortunately, i'm not using BAIN as i'm still kind of new to the modding scene.

Then in OBMM, bummer, but doable. How about the game without the bashed patch? try deactivating the bashed patch and see if the game works ok.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:41 am

Then in OBMM, bummer, but doable. How about the game without the bashed patch? try deactivating the bashed patch and see if the game works ok.

I tried disabling the bashed patch, same thing. i'm thinking of getting BAIN. how different is it from OBMM?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:19 am

I tried disabling the bashed patch, same thing. i'm thinking of getting BAIN. how different is it from OBMM?

Very. It is part of Wrye Bash. Look at the Wrye Bash readme and the BAIN threads (you may have to dig for it). It is the best tool for installation order especially with texture replacers. Will require some work up front but it is worth it in the end. You can still use OBMM with it, just need to know what you are doing. That said, give it a shot.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:10 pm

Will check your LO and advice:
1. Upgrade 19 TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c] to version 1.40 (check in my sig or the TT thread) as it will make the TT more stable schedules. It must be merged in Wrye bash.
2. 1C TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c] must be used only as NOT merged.
3. I haven't read TT's readme for a long time, but my advice: read the readme careful and get rid of some of the esps (they don't all go along very well).

4. About your version of Harvest Flora:
2B Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
2C Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
2D Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
2E Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

Everybody knows v. 3.0 is unstable and everybody who wants not to have CTDs uses v. 3.01

5. Try to play without Ren's Guard Overhaul and see if it makes any difference.

6. Make sure all mods are properly installed either via OBMM or BAIN

7. Add UOP and its supplement as it gives significant stabilisation of the Modblivion.

8. Try to make proper build of your Bashed patch (read how to on Tomlong's TESIV... thread).

Main reasons for CTD at start:
1. Missing master (your only mod adding esm is TT and I see you've got the TT.esp) which hardly applies to you.
2. Corrupted save (try to load different ones)
3. Corrupt mesh(es) - very difficult to track for a new mod user.
4. Mod conflict (I don't play some of your mods, so cant comment on their compatibility).

What I would do:
1. Disable Bashed Patch and try loading the save without it (you've done this and failed)
2 Start by disabling the last 5 mods in your LO, then try loading the game. If still game crashes, disable next 5 and so on.
3. If game crashes when only Oblivion.esm is active, definitely time for reinstall